derrick

We need to know what the width of the rim and where you actually rub. Let me guess about the rubbing -- the driver's side rear tire? (Happened to me occasionally if I have a lot of weight in the back and go too fast on speed bumps)

Tire size is a little 'big' -- the aspect ratio '45' will help with ride comfort but may make it more susceptible to rubbing. Most of the time I would say to go with 225/40/18 tires.

You'll most likely need to trim the tabs in the back. Inspect the tire with the rubbing and see where it contacts with the wheel well (ie give the car a push downwards to get an idea). Depending on the wheel width, you might get away with not having to roll fenders.

Good luck.

derrick

Option 1 (17x8, 45 ET) ... you will be awfully close. If you are not lowered, then you should be OK using 215/50/17 tires, but you will be 'stretching' the tire by mounting it on an 8" rim. You might be better off using a 225/50/17 or 235/45/17 tire. The only thing about the latter 2 choices ... good chance for rubbing.

Option 2 (18x8, 45 ET) ... the car will look funny at stock height and using these rims. I would go with 225/40/18 tires with those rims for sure. You will most likely need to trim tabs and possibly roll fenders with either choice.

derrick

Sadly, I think you may have to trim tabs if you go with a 225/45/18 tire. The drop is mild but the amount of rebound from the spring/shock combo might cause rubbing since the tire aspect ratio is a little 'high'. You will less likely get into trouble (ie rubbing) if you went with a slightly shorter tire, 225/40/18. You do sacrifice a little ride comfort but have a better chance not have to cut tabs / roll fenders.

derrick

Slammed on Tein Basics with an 8" rim, +45 offset ... you will definitely need to cut tabs and trim fender. You will also probably need a camber kit while you're at it.

What size tire are you looking at? 225/40/19 might be what you need to help you minimize rubbing potential.

GT83 A-Spec

All four corners have the camber kit

As for tires, I thought I needed 225/35/19. however if i can pull of a 225/40/19 then the ride quality might be a bit better.

02type-s

Actually he needs a 225/35/19. A 40 series on a 19 for a 2g?? That would rub like crazy! And the sizing would be off for speedo and such. Depending on the tire, he may not need to roll fenders. If he goes with a Toyo or Falken (run narrow) he will be fine with cut tabs. If he runs something like a Yokohama (run wide), he may need some rolling.

A 19x8 with a 45 is pretty safe with the right tire. Mine are 19x8 +40.

MikePA

Thanks for the response Derrick. Too bad. I was hoping, since the 225/45-18 was only 0.30 inches larger in diameter, there wouldn't be a problem.

What if I use 18 x 7.5" wheels instead of 18 x 8".

Also, the 225/40/18 would read 2.3% too fast. So, I imagine it'd have to be a 235/40/18?

MikePA

BTW, I found 18 x 7.5" wheels I like, that have a +48mm offset.

Click Here

MikePA

How about only going up to;

17 x 7 +45 mm and a 215/50-17?

Anita.Bonghit

[QUOTE=derrick;9993560]We need to know what the width of the rim and where you actually rub. Let me guess about the rubbing -- the driver's side rear tire? (Happened to me occasionally if I have a lot of weight in the back and go too fast on speed bumps)

Tire size is a little 'big' -- the aspect ratio '45' will help with ride comfort but may make it more susceptible to rubbing. Most of the time I would say to go with 225/40/18 tires.

You'll most likely need to trim the tabs in the back. Inspect the tire with the rubbing and see where it contacts with the wheel well (ie give the car a push downwards to get an idea). Depending on the wheel width, you might get away with not having to roll fenders.

Good luck. [/QUOTE


thanks man ... i have them on 7.5 width .... the front rubs when i turn and hit a bump and the back mostly when it dips or when people are in the back............... what tabs do i need to cut if i go to 40 instead of 45, will the ride be affected that much cause its really nice with the 45s on ...

02ACTcLean

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Alright i know everyone will see the offset and width and freak out but i want to know if they will rub any control arms, strut, ect...

F 19x8.5 +38 w/ 215 30 or 35

R 19x9.5 +38 w/ 215 30 or 35

Looking to get the most aggressive setup on a 2G. Fenders rolled, bumpers trimmed, front plastics removed.. slammed at least 4.5 inches..
I know camber is needed F and R.. not afraid to run mad camber. Does anyone remember if REV-01's car had 9.5's in the rear?

Any input is helpful. thanks.

02type-s

An 8.5 with a 215/35 is pushin it, but doable. But a 9.5 with a 215/35.......A 225/35 on the 9.5 would be just fine.

Expect to run 3+ degrees of neg. camber.

jjashaa

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19x8.5 +38 is good

i had 18x8.5 +34 with 235/35/18 in the front and rear... you've seen it. haha

i think rear. you're gonna have to pull out fenders a bit... not sure.. haven't gone THAT extreme..

02ACTcLean

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Thanks for all the input. jjasha.. did you have to put in a front camber kit to make the 8.5 fit?

jjashaa

iTrader: (23)

nope. i wish i had a camber kit.... for the rear.
haha
fronts are perfectly fine. no camber kit it jus.. stuck out a bit with that +34

02ACTcLean

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Cool. i have SPC for the rear. Good kit. i can get maaad camber out of it...

derrick

My bad ... I had too many numbers in my head.

csawyer

I have a 2003 Basic TL with 205/60/16 rims and tires. I have a chance to acquire a take off set of 05 TL rims with 235/45/17 rims. Will I have enough room for these, there just a little wider and taller but it seems pretty tight in the wheel wells especially the rear.

derrick

^ The rims from a 3rd gen TL (2004-2008) have been done on a 2nd gen TL (1999-2003) before ... it's been posted many times with mixed results. My personal opinion ... it'll fit provided your suspension is not modified. However, it will appear the rims will "stick out" past the wheel well and give a very odd appearance (again -- this is a subjective opinion).

Personally, I'd recommend not going that route, if you are paying out of your own pocket for this. For a 17" rim, there are nicer ones out there. I still believe the 2002-2003 Type-S rims are some of the nicest rims that come from the factory for any car below $40k.

Do a search and see what I mean about the 2004-2008 TL rims not looking right on a non-modified 2nd gen TL.

1baddrop

I have a 2000 tl with h&r springs. I am looking at 2 diff. wheels both 19x8.5 one with a 45 offset and the other set has a 50 offset will either of these work with 225/40/19 tires? I realize i will be rolling the fenders and trimming tabs does this cover the custom body work refered to in the quoted post?

ZEUS'O3TL

well the rim size and offset is fine but tire size is wrong...u need a 225/35/19 or 235/35/19....i have 19x8 +40 offset and im dropped on eibach prokit and i have very minimal rubbin so i dont believe u have to even trim or roll fenders...hopefully..

02type-s

VIP typ-S

2002 TL-S with stock ride height
I'm looking at a 18 x 7.5 rim with +45 offset. Will get H&R OE springs when new struts are installed. Will this rim work ? What size tire ? Will I need to roll fenders ?
THANKS for the help.

ZEUS'O3TL

u will be fine dude...7.5" rim and +45 offset wether dropped or not ur gonna be cool, no fender rolling required...as far as tire size u can 225/40/18 from what i have seen...

VIP typ-S

Thanks ZEUS for the help.
I found a set of 18 X 7.5 +45 Nismo Forged rims by Rays in bronze and love the way they look. I'll have to start saving for tires now.
Thanks again !

vivftp

Howdy y'all

I know I have a thread about these rims, but this thread seems to get a lot of traffic so I thought I'd ask here. I've been looking at the Wald Portofino rims for some time now and just wanted to make sure I'd have no trouble putting them on a TL. The car in question would be an 03 TL-S A-Spec. Here's the manufactuers page:

http://www.wald.co.jp/english/catalog/wheel/p11c.html


I haven't really gone through this entire thread, but from what little I've read it sounds like the ones I should go with are:

SIZE OFFSET P.C.D/HOLE
19x7.5 +48(35) 112/5　114.3/5

Is this correct? I'm not quite sure what the P.C.D/HOLE measurement is...

AMGala

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^P.C.D. is the spacing in between the holes and HOLE is just the number of holes. Our cars have 5 lug holes and a spacing of 114.3mm or 4.5". So, you'd need 114.3/5

vivftp

Ahh I see, thanks!

So... does anyone think I would run into any issues if I were to get the above mentioned rims in that size?

The one thing I'm still trying to learn is just how much rubber I can put on a particular sized rim. I assume it's all based on how much the car is lowered as well... and since that's an unknown factor right now how about we use stock height and go from there?

I would like a smooth ride, but I know that with 19" rims I won't get anywhere as smooth a ride as stock. Anyone want to venture a guess as to how much rubber could easily be put on and how smooth a ride that'd be?

ZEUS'O3TL

u only have two choices for rubber in 19" sizes...235/35/19 or 225/35/19...oh and i think i remember seeing 215/35/19...but the first two are most common...

ZEUS'O3TL

no prob man...after test fitting a coupe of wheels my firends have and some that i have purchased u kinda get the idea of what fits and what doesnt..glad i could help....now hurry up and save for them tires and post pics....

vivftp

Ahh, I thank you very much

Now here's the question... is there anything special that needs to be done to our cars to make this configuration work, or is it a straight install with absolutely nothing else that must be done?

Also, could I still slap coilovers on the car and lower it? Or am I going to run into issues trying to lower the car with these size wheels?

ZEUS'O3TL

simple install and drive....u might need hub rings depending on the bore size..thats the center part of where the wheel sits..it looks like a nipple stickin out in the middle of the studs...and u should be fine with coilovers and slamming it since the the rim is 7.5 wide and ur offset is +48 which is damn good..

vivftp

You've just made my day good sir!


Now... if only I could FIND the damned rims to see how much they cost, heh. So far I've been quoted on 20" forged versions which are $1,900 each and WAY beyond anything I'd spend. Fortunately the 19" versions are casted, so I'm expecting a much more reasonable price... the only problem is I haven't managed to find a retailer that sells the 19" ones in North America yet...

Ah well, at least I know it'll work now, and it'll be a nice, simple install BTW, how rough do you think the ride would be compared to stock? I know it'll be rougher, just curious as to how much you think it might be.


Thanks again!

ZEUS'O3TL

the ride is as rough as when ur doin it with a girl full of herpes...lmao!!!..j/k man.....but the ride is rough since the tire is thinner...im ridin on 225/35/19 and im dropped on Eibach Sportlines and with our roads here in Wisconsin (suck) i sometimes have to drive like im drunk swervin around potholes

vivftp

Hmm, well the one thing I do like about the stock ride is that I can basically take on most pot holes without much concern (not that I do, but the ability to is good). I'd still LIKE to be able to do that with 19" rims, but from your comments and others I've read, it doesn't look like that's possible...

ZEUS'O3TL

jus do it man..ride LOW and SLOW.......i've learned to do that now that im lowered...

vivftp

Heh, yeah... it will require a bit of a change-up in my driving habits, but I can live with it.

BTW... out of curiousity, do you think it'd be possible to keep one of these exact wheels we're talking about in the spare tire compartment, or do ya think it'd be too big?

ZEUS'O3TL

it will weight u down more becuz of wieght but i dont see why not..when i fisrt got my 19's i put them side by side and the stocks seemed a lil bit taller by like and inch or less...so it should fit...

vivftp

Ahh, good to hear. Yeah, I know it'll weigh me down, but I'm not as concerned about that. I'm already planning a host of other mods that'll weigh the car down (full dynamatting, sub/amp, extra battery...), so a lil' extra weight from a larger spare tire won't worry me much... plus I'll feel a lot better knowing that if anything did ever occur and I needed to put on the spare, at least it'd look just fine.


Well, thanks again for all your advice!

vivftp

Hmmm, I had one more question that just came to mind. With the available info we have on the Wald Portofino rims and the 19" rims I was looking at above, is there any way to know if I'd be able to put a big brake kit on 'em? I still haven't 100% decided if I want it or not, but I'm just curious to know if that's even a possibility anymore with these wheels.