JterrorC

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cold morning start FINE

i was makin a few stops with my car.....turned it on n off like 10 times in 3 hrs....FINE

parked for 3 hrs...turn on

drive 15 min.... turn off....chil for 30 min...try to turn on and nothing

lights work radio works...accessory plug works...i go I good then II good then III nothing...

you ask for more backround and i wouldnt be able to help with more details...i have none....i tried 3 different keys..

in park...in neutral... nothing...

flag a car down..get a jump...and still nothing...same reaction....

all locks works...alll lights work...checked the terminal...they good...

mind you....i do this on off on off EVERY saturday...for the past yr...never had a problem with starter...IACV actd up back then...cleaned it...goood to go now...



HELP! car is in a lot helpless 15 min from home...

nisreo

starter could be the cause. If you can, have someone turn the key while you bang on the starter with a prybar or something. If its binding it will usually free it up enough to get the car started.

JterrorC

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if it was the starter...wouldnt it atleast turn over??....i get nothing..no turn over...i dont even here the relay...i put it half way between II n III...i here somtin goin crazy ....mayb it is the relay..idk..its freezing...ima try another boost....checking terminals again...checking alll fuses related...

i search but all i come up with is topics with ppl atleast havin a bit of crank..i hav ZERO...

TLin401

Alternator?

Fuel Pump/Filter?

JterrorC

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this sounds like my problem..cuz my dash turns on normal...

TLin401

Try that then. If you can get your car to Autozone or any chain auto parts store, they will test it for you for free.

Rajca

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can be alternator or fuel pump. car would still try to turn over if the fuel pump didnt work.

power and ground to and from the starter are all connected?

JterrorC

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aigh........we good...for now....

i search n searched...all came to conclusion it was the starter...sooooo i packed a pipe wrench got a ride to my car....and banged it to giv it that spark it was missin.....vroom on first try....

lesson learned...cars are much easier to understand than girls

jrm1508

my car did that before i pulled the back-up fuse(don't know if that did anything) then turned to on then turn to start multiple times in a row then it started had trouble but it started.

Rajca

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cant say the same for my tl, been problem over and over the the last 3-4 months. replaced everything that ppl suggested and some still same problem.

nisreo

you said your car doesnt crank..... so yea it would be the starter.

JterrorC

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yea thanks nis...shock the started and its good to go..lets see how long for...

rcb2000

the starter needs replaced or rebuilt it will happen again and soon.

JterrorC

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yea... starter 125....install 50...is this good??....will i be able to install? with simple tools??

Rajca

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installation is two bolt, and some nuts for the wires. thats it. hr max if ur not mechanically inclined

fsttyms1

Its VERY easy. Just disconnect the battery before doing this.

catfish

When my car did that the battery was dead. Same symptoms: no crank but all the electronics worked. If you try to jump it off you have to have some large gauge jumper cables or they will not work.

JterrorC

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hmm...last time i mess with the engine i got the damn cel light that has never left....(havent visit dealer yet)...BUT....fuck it..y not learn... not now...its snowin n im takin advangtage of it goin down hill couple times IM BEAT....but once the sun hits the car ill try....ill search for a diagram of the part...but if somone beats me to it...i dont mind.... but den again...50 bucks....n i get to jus chill home...hmm...temptin to let him do it n watch...

can anyone hoook it up with a diagram?? so i can make my decision easier

i do need to do this asap....cuz from time to time...i have to knock on it again....n when i do hav to knock...it takes more n more....any sweet spots??....im hittin right on top of the sticker.

hmm...listen to this....i did leave my fog lights on TWICE over night...and it drained my battery...gave it a jump and was good to go...... can this be a factor...or totally different case?...

fsttyms1

There is no diagram needed. Find the starter towards the front of the motor on the trans side. Remove the wires going to it, remove the 2 bolts. Its easy to replace.

totaledTL

How can you leave the fog lights on?? Doesn't the car switch your lights off after a few min. if you leave them on? Something doesn't sound right.

Rajca

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hes got an 00. no fog lights. he put some in and i think just wired it to a switch and the battery. so if teh switch is on teh lights are on regardless if the cars on or off

JterrorC

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correct...i hav no wired it to the cruise control.it now turns off when i turn the car off...YAY..

aigh...after tons of searches..i finally found this..

jdjohn84

May be the starter...may be the ignition switch. Might want to test the old starter before installing a new one. I had a similar problem on an Infiniti, changed the starter, only to have the problem re-occur. For whatever reason, the problem happened more when the car was warm and I tried to re-crank after making a quick stop somewhere. Turned out to be the ignition switch...may have been the problem all along. Pretty easy to change the switch.

JterrorC

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welll..lets hoie its the starter...cuz....its changed.....had trouble with a stuck bolt....but wd40 got it out...SOOOOO EASY...def diy...

mod should add juanC's diagrams post to the diy...

thanks for the courage...who needs a wizard when u hav aziners....

express

I have the exact same problem. my 2000 TL wouldn't crank over yesterday afternoon. I had a 16 mile trip then parked in garage for 2 hours.
It had no response and no noise. after 5 minutes of trying to turn the key, it made a weird noise like as if I was trying to start when engine is already running.
After letting it sit for another 5 minutes, it started fine.

This morning, upon first try, it had no response. On the second try, it cranked over.

what do you think? is it bad starter or bad ignition switch?

jdjohn84

Hard to say...could be either. Really need to hot wire the starter and test to be sure.

fsttyms1

doubtful its the ignition switch, i havent seen any thing other than 99s with that problem. More likely its the starter

express

It's been good since Sunday afternoon's incident, then it happened again this morning.
Car started after 5 attempts. If it's bad starter, shouldn't it just fail completely?

TLer trash

No, it's pretty common for them to be intermittent before they give out completely. Fix it asap or it's gonna strand you.

fsttyms1

Agree.

express

My issue is resolved.
Thanks to fsttyms1 and TLer trash for correct diagnosis.

I went to O'reily's and picked up a starter for $119.99 + core charge. The guy working at the store ran a quick check and said the starter has a flat spot.

It took me about 1 hour to replace the starter.

I mostly followed the steps mentioned above. I did had to do little more steps to use my limited collection of tools.

I had to remove the battery and battery tray to give me more space.
I used ratchet, socket extender, 8mm, 12mm, 17mm sockets, ratchet handle extender.

For bolt C (17mm) in the picture above, I recommand removing the bottom bolt first.
There was a bracket mounted on one of the casing bolt (8mm). I removed it when taking the bad unit out to give me more room, but this can be done after wards.

Rest of the steps are pretty easy and my car is cranking over without any issues. YEAH!

Thanks again.

fsttyms1