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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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HELP!..steering rack replacement

i'm kind of desperate.
i have the old steering rack out...and i cant figure out how to get the new rack in.
has anyone done a rack replacement?.
what else do i need to remove....to get this thing back in?
i barely got it out... likely because i really muscled it out.
not caring what i did because i was replacing it.


i might stop at the acura dealer tomorrow and see if i can talk to a technician.

any help would be greatly appreciated.

Kris....WHERE ARE YOU!.
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 08:31 PM
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 09:36 PM
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Its not something that i can really say how. Its a finesse job (depending on what you removed to take it out) What have you removed to get it out?
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 10:45 PM
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I have the exhaust off..the knuckle off..swaybar is still on . there has to be a way. the transmission selector cable is connected but unscrewed from the housing to get more slack. l
do I work the right side first...then the left side.

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Its not something that i can really say how. Its a fineness job (depending on what you removed to take it out) What have you removed to get it out?
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 06:31 AM
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u didnt loosen any chassis parts?
did u disconnect the transmission selector cable?
it doesn't really seem like i need to disconnect that though.

i'm so pissed...i got it out and cant get it back in.

and the power steering pump lines took forever to get off.
i had the rack unbolted before doing the lines..it was moving around too much to loosen the lines, so i bolted it back down and was able to undo the lines.

and it's going to be fun putting the fluid lines back on....if i can this f*&#ing rack back in.

HOW DO THEY DO THIS AT ACURA!!!!

i try again after work.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 07:40 AM
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I wish i could get my scanner to work with windows 7 but i cant (though the pics probably wont help too much)

This is from the manual.

Knuckles stay on. You need to remove the right and left tie rod ends. Only thing under the car that comes off is the Y pipe part of the header and the stiffener plates (pieces that go over the rack to hold it in place).

Then Pull the steering gearbox (rack) down so that the pinion shaft(the part the steering wheel connects to) clears the bulkhead and remove the pinion shaft grommet from the top of the valve body unit.

Move teh steering gear box to the passengers side until the drivers side rack end rests on the end of the rear beam

To get the drivers side rack end around the rear beam, push up and back on the passengers side rack end then pull down on the drivers side of the steering gear box and remove.

Reverse for install
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 07:45 AM
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Actually a few pages later has the install but its pretty much the same. except for centering and the mounting cushions and bracket placement. And torque specs.


I have to run out but will be back in a hr or so. Ill see if i cant get these pages scanned.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 08:31 AM
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i'll try again tonite.
i have the knuckles and exhaust off because i'm doing the wheel bearing and ball joints and putting the stock exhaust back on.

thanks for you help.

i'll be googling "installing rack and pinion steering on 1999 acura tl" for the rest of the day.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 09:14 AM
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This is from the shop manual. Hope it helps



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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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hmmm.
step 16 seems to hint at disconnecting the AT shift cable.
how is that done?
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
......Its a fineness job (depending on what you removed to take it out).....
Forgive my ignorance- what's a "fineness job"?
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by joseph_99tl
hmmm.
step 16 seems to hint at disconnecting the AT shift cable.
how is that done?
You remove the plate that it goes into and disconnect it from the trans.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by totaledTL
Forgive my ignorance- what's a "fineness job"?
Its a typing to fast and not proofing word.

* Fixed*
Finesse
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
You remove the plate that it goes into and disconnect it from the trans.
i have the plate removed...i will try it with the cable disconnected.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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got dang!!!!!
how does one disconnect the shifter cable from the transaxle.
i dont see anything to disconnect.
geez.
i think i can get this rack back in if i can get the shifter cable disconnected.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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I dont remember since its been so long but i dont remember it being difficult.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 05:25 PM
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There are 2 bolts where the shift cable is located. Then the plate it bolts to has 3 bolts, remove them and the plate and you gain access to the shift cable end. Once the plate cover is off then remove the one bolt holding the cable to the linkage. Once out the cable comes off
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 05:44 PM
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yea i got it out....thx man.
just starting to lose my patience.
now on to the rack
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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Step back take a break have a cold beverage and relax. It will work out. If i were closer id give you a hand.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 07:01 PM
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damn.
this is impossible.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 07:12 PM
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Cant be impossible, you got it out. Plus the manual says you can and i know it can as i have pulled mine out.
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 06:55 AM
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Ask a friend to come & take a look. Sometimes another (fresh) set of eyes & brain will see something right away that you've missed. It's worked for me before. Good luck.
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 11:31 AM
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got it done.
it was all in the "finesse".
Kris, thanks for all your help.
i'm so freakin happy.
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by joseph_99tl
got it done.
it was all in the "finesse".
Kris, thanks for all your help.
i'm so freakin happy.
LIke i said in my first post Congrats. Just needed to be coaxed in the correct directions at the correct time.
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