Driver side wheel shaking like crazy when i give it gas.

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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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Driver side wheel shaking like crazy when i give it gas.

Alright I've had this problem for a while now. About a month or two ago it happend out of nowhere for a few mins and then it went away. Now after 5mins of driving it doesn't stop.

Problem: When I hit the gas to accelerate (slow or fast doesnt matter) the driver side front wheel feels like its going to fall off, kind of like having one lug or two lug nuts on the rim and it would wobble like crazy.
When I let go of the gas and let it crusie it's fine. As soon as i tap back on the gas pedal it's starts wobbling/shaking again.

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1. My mechanic inspected the car, driver side lower ball joint was bad, and the axle boot was ripped on the part that connects to the tranny. Both parts replaced with new parts. Still doing the same thing.

2. Inspected the motor mounts, front motor mount was somwhat bad and the transmission mounts where barely hanging on. Changed that with new parts, still doing the same thing!!

I have ran out of clues on what else it could be. We had it on the lift and nothing else that we can see is a damaged part.

I planned on selling this car starting last month, obviously after I fixed the problem, but I have already shelled out over $400 in parts and labor!

Someone please help!!!

My brother suggested it could be the transfer case/ differential?? But would that only screw up on one side(driver side).

P.S. Transmission is shifting fine and the motor is driving fine, only problem is the crazy shaking. BTW, my car has 110k miles. Also the front tires are brand new and the rim has no bends.

HELP!!!
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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maybe missing a weight?????
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jjashaa
maybe missing a weight?????
Thanks, I will check that.

However it doesn't start doing it until about 5 mins of driving, I would assuming a unbalanced tire would do it right away. But I really appreciate the suggestion, I will check it and get back to you.
Thanks again.
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jjashaa
maybe missing a weight?????
Ok I checked it. It's fine and it is there, just to double check I put on my stock rim and the problem is still there.

Right now my brother just inspected the tie rod and the inner tie rod and they are fine, he also looked near the cross member and a few other things.

Everyone that see it seems to be confused.

Anyone else think they might know what it is?
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 07:25 PM
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does the whole car shake? or just the wheel? have someone look at your axles
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by crazyasiantl
does the whole car shake? or just the wheel? have someone look at your axles
Just the driver side wheel area. Axle has already been changed...
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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 10:05 PM
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No transfer case or differential on TL's.
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by totaledTL
No transfer case or differential on TL's.
Could this be anything with the transmission?

It only shakes when I tap on the gas pedal and the only thing giving power to the axles is the tranny..??

Someone please help....
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 09:42 PM
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dunno bro, good luck with a fix
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by black acura99
Just the driver side wheel area. Axle has already been changed...
What was it replaced with? A rebuilt axle assy. or new? I've read posts about reman. axles that caused problems. Maybe it's still the axle-
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 07:50 AM
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I had a similar problem and it turned out to be both axles. Check the other side.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by totaledTL
What was it replaced with? A rebuilt axle assy. or new? I've read posts about reman. axles that caused problems. Maybe it's still the axle-
It was a brand new axle, not rebuilt.


Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
I had a similar problem and it turned out to be both axles. Check the other side.
I checked the other side, both boots are fine, no rips....
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by black acura99
It was a brand new axle, not rebuilt.




I checked the other side, both boots are fine, no rips....
It's pretty common for a bad axle to look perfect. It's usually the inner joint that causes this problem. I'd still be looking at the axle you didn't change.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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I am no sure how you can tell which side is shaking while you are driving...but I can say that, in the experience I had, shaking steering wheel under load is an axle issue.

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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 12:54 PM
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Not sure

Im not exactly sure what the problem is but at one point i owened a toyota camery i had the same problem as you. I would give it gas and the wheels would shake like crazy. as soon as I would let up off the gas it would be fine. My mechanic replaced the struts and it was fine.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TLer trash
It's pretty common for a bad axle to look perfect. It's usually the inner joint that causes this problem. I'd still be looking at the axle you didn't change.
I would think this might be the case, but all of the shaking and vibration is coming from the driver side wheel.

Originally Posted by MrHeeltoe
I am no sure how you can tell which side is shaking while you are driving...but I can say that, in the experience I had, shaking steering wheel under load is an axle issue.

Marcus
It's not just me, even my brother drove it and noticed its all coming from the driver side wheel. The driver side wheel feels like its got like 1 or 2 lug nuts on and its wobbling about to fall off.

I would doubt that my last bad axle would do the same thing and then I put a brand new one in and it's exactly the same.
If anything it should a LITTLE better after replacing:
1. Driver side axle (brand new)
2. Driver side Lower ball joint (brand new)
3 Front motor mount (brand new)
4. Front Transmission mount (brand new)
5. Rear transmission mount (brand new).

Still I can't seem to hit the right failed part...
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by black acura99
It was a brand new axle, not rebuilt.




I checked the other side, both boots are fine, no rips....
Yeah, BOTH of my axles looked perfectly fine on the outside. That's why I didn't believe the mechanic. But it turned out that both were bad.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 06:12 PM
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Is the wheel actually shaking or like a jolting? I say that because it could be the tranny and that's from experience. Does it only happen during 2nd or 3rd shifts?
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Yeah, BOTH of my axles looked perfectly fine on the outside. That's why I didn't believe the mechanic. But it turned out that both were bad.
I'll drive the car again today and inspect it to see.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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Bad tire?
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 6MTUA5
Bad tire?
I put the stock rim back on yesterday and still the same problem. So the rims/tires aren't the problem.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by totaledTL
No transfer case or differential on TL's.
Wrong, we do have a differential. If we didnt you wouldnt be able to turn


I agree with the others. Its highly probable that its a axle. You stated you shelled out 400 in parts and labor, did the mechanic actually change the axle and not the boots? 400 is cheap for all those parts AND labor. The only other things it would be are a bad shock, or the trans maybe a different mount that you havent replaced. Just because things "look" good dont mean they are.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Wrong, we do have a differential. If we didnt you wouldnt be able to turn.....

That's not what you say here: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...02#post9975902
(post #4)

In the classic sense, is what I meant- come on...
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Wrong, we do have a differential. If we didnt you wouldnt be able to turn


I agree with the others. Its highly probable that its a axle. You stated you shelled out 400 in parts and labor, did the mechanic actually change the axle and not the boots? 400 is cheap for all those parts AND labor. The only other things it would be are a bad shock, or the trans maybe a different mount that you havent replaced. Just because things "look" good dont mean they are.
Yea I trust this mechanic (known him for a long time), also I bought all the parts and gave it to him plus I can see all the new stickers on the axle.
As far as the cheaper labor, he hooks me up because I've sent him a lot of business and have been going to him for about 7 years now.

I'm just tired of playing the guessing game. We have guessed 5 times and been wrong. I wouldn't care as much about spending a shit load of money but the thing is I planned on selling the car right before all this came up.

So here's what we might do next:
1. Take the hood off, have one of my friends or brother drive right next to me and see if the motor is shaking while the wheel area is shaking. If it is then like you said maybe another mount is bad. If not, then:

2. Put it on a Dyno (no not to pull some HP runs), but to actually look under the car as to what is causing the shaking. There is a lift dyno around here I'm going to see if they will let me do that. (I already put it on a regular lift and tried it but, unforetunely nothing happens because there is no force/weight on the wheels).

Pray I find the problem soon...
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by totaledTL
That's not what you say here: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...02#post9975902
(post #4)

In the classic sense, is what I meant- come on...
Seriously... WHERE in that post did i say we DONT have a diff????? If you re read the post i said and i quote

Originally Posted by fsttyms1
There isnt a separate differential on the TL. Its FWD so its all built into the trans.
We still have a diff but it isnt separate like the OP was asking if he could change just that fluid (see below)
Originally Posted by 03tlp
I am going to change my tranny fluid this week and was also wondering if anyone has changed the differential fluid. If so, where can i find the drain and fill bolts? What gear oil should I use?
You are the one that Misinformed the OP by saying we dont have a differential which is incorrect.
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by black acura99
Yea I trust this mechanic (known him for a long time), also I bought all the parts and gave it to him plus I can see all the new stickers on the axle.
As far as the cheaper labor, he hooks me up because I've sent him a lot of business and have been going to him for about 7 years now.

I'm just tired of playing the guessing game. We have guessed 5 times and been wrong. I wouldn't care as much about spending a shit load of money but the thing is I planned on selling the car right before all this came up.

So here's what we might do next:
1. Take the hood off, have one of my friends or brother drive right next to me and see if the motor is shaking while the wheel area is shaking. If it is then like you said maybe another mount is bad. If not, then:

2. Put it on a Dyno (no not to pull some HP runs), but to actually look under the car as to what is causing the shaking. There is a lift dyno around here I'm going to see if they will let me do that. (I already put it on a regular lift and tried it but, unforetunely nothing happens because there is no force/weight on the wheels).

Pray I find the problem soon...
Can you have someone driving next to you to see if they see that wheel shaking or moving? And why are you so positive its that wheel?
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by totaledTL
That's not what you say here: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...02#post9975902
(post #4)

In the classic sense, is what I meant- come on...
That post doesn't say we don't have a differential??

Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Can you have someone driving next to you to see if they see that wheel shaking or moving? And why are you so positive its that wheel?
I tried that, the wheel was moving but it seemed like it was just normal from driving, nothing out of the ordinary. So whatever that is causing it is behind the wheel.

Everyone that drove the car said they felt it coming from the driver side wheel. And they all agreed that it feels like that wheel is either going flat or there is only 1 or 2 lug nuts holding the wheel and its about to fall off.
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Seriously... WHERE in that post did i say we DONT have a diff????? If you re read the post i said and i quote



We still have a diff but it isnt separate like the OP was asking if he could change just that fluid (see below)


You are the one that Misinformed the OP by saying we dont have a differential which is incorrect.
Ok, I understand what you're saying- I thought that he was possibly asking about changing the fluid in it as 03tlp had- as if it had a SEPARATE, DISCRETE, differential that you could crawl under the car and inspect- that's why I said "in the classic sense,...".

Relax- it'll be ok.

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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 01:19 AM
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I have the exact same problem. You guys are scaring me. Im broke, i need a car to drive, and if its gonna cost a lot of money to fix, im out of ideas! Probably gonna have to borrow families cars
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Old Dec 20, 2008 | 09:26 AM
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I may have a similiar axle problem on my 03 TL.
Anyone know what the dealer charges to replace one axle?
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Old Dec 21, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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By hand, you may be able to slide the axle toward and away from the wheel a little bit (because the axle must get shorter and longer as the suspension travels) but it should not move up/down or forward/back at all.
My bet is also something in the driveline.
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