weird guy? or will this work?
weird guy? or will this work?
When i was having my headers installed, the installer commented to me..."do you race this...?" I was like...."not really, but i want it faster, of course..." He then said headers don't do shit, 15 horses max, which i know, but it's the last bolt-on power mod i can do. He then said that he could tweak a lot more power out of my engine, he said call him and schedule an appointment to find out what i could do, because he wouldn't tell me yet until i come in...but he did say that he could adjust my timing belt somehow to create more power? I thought he was crazy, since i'm on this site so much and no one has mentioned that before....i asked him if it would mess up my engine, and he shook his head no....i'm confused, what else is there to tweak in the engine for power? Was he right about gaining more power from the timing belt somehow?
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"headers don't do shit"
Is this guy a joke or what!!!! At least 20 wheel hp, for $350, which is what I paid for my DC Sport headers, they do plenty, this guy is just trying to scam you, he obviously doesn't know as much as he thinks he does about our cars.
Is this guy a joke or what!!!! At least 20 wheel hp, for $350, which is what I paid for my DC Sport headers, they do plenty, this guy is just trying to scam you, he obviously doesn't know as much as he thinks he does about our cars.
What he's talking about is cam timing and it can be done on many cars.
One many domestic V8s, you can get adjustable timing sets or sets with fixed 4° advanced, 4° retarded or straight up (0°) settings. As mentioned before, on popular imports, you can get adjustable cam gears that do the same thing. Cam timing allows you to move the power/torque band up or down the rev range to suit the driving you want to do (popular with drag racers who won't drive the car on the street).
I'm guessing the guy wants to do that with your car possibly by putting the timing belt on the cam gear off by 1 cog, either advanced or retarded. Of course, the big downside is poor driveability, failing emissions and CELs.
Not worth it IMO, especially if he wants to use your car as a guinea pig.
One many domestic V8s, you can get adjustable timing sets or sets with fixed 4° advanced, 4° retarded or straight up (0°) settings. As mentioned before, on popular imports, you can get adjustable cam gears that do the same thing. Cam timing allows you to move the power/torque band up or down the rev range to suit the driving you want to do (popular with drag racers who won't drive the car on the street).
I'm guessing the guy wants to do that with your car possibly by putting the timing belt on the cam gear off by 1 cog, either advanced or retarded. Of course, the big downside is poor driveability, failing emissions and CELs.
Not worth it IMO, especially if he wants to use your car as a guinea pig.
Originally Posted by 2003TL-S
"headers don't do shit"
Is this guy a joke or what!!!! At least 20 wheel hp, for $350, which is what I paid for my DC Sport headers, they do plenty, this guy is just trying to scam you, he obviously doesn't know as much as he thinks he does about our cars.
Is this guy a joke or what!!!! At least 20 wheel hp, for $350, which is what I paid for my DC Sport headers, they do plenty, this guy is just trying to scam you, he obviously doesn't know as much as he thinks he does about our cars.
I bought the headers...as a set, they don't sell them separate if thats what you mean, it comes in 3 pieces, downpipe, and both 3 to 1 pipes. I got these for $300 from my buddy's shop (special ordered em for me and gave me wholesale price) and install cost me $150. Oh, and yes, you can feel a big difference and it's WELL worth it
Originally Posted by Acura XXI
Is that $350 for both headers or each? and did you feel a big difference?
Unless that guy has a magic touch then hes probably BSin you to make a little extra cash on the side. I know of a way to gain around 15-55 HP....AEM EMS and a good dyno tune with a good tuner!! I've seen people gain 32 extra horse out of a stock car by just tuning.
Originally Posted by TL_PJ
Unless that guy has a magic touch then hes probably BSin you to make a little extra cash on the side. I know of a way to gain around 15-55 HP....AEM EMS and a good dyno tune with a good tuner!! I've seen people gain 32 extra horse out of a stock car by just tuning.
Originally Posted by MurkyRiversTL
I think that guy just wants to get in your pants..... and in order to do that he has to adjust YOUR belt. Don't do it man......... unless of course..... you like that kinda stuff.
SSTS
Originally Posted by MurkyRiversTL
I think that guy just wants to get in your pants..... and in order to do that he has to adjust YOUR belt. Don't do it man......... unless of course..... you like that kinda stuff.
hahahaha
Originally Posted by wilp99
that and the car will automatically try to make up for the advanced timing. and will prolly run like the back of my balls look. if we had a dizzy then maybee it could be done but we dont.
I'm not all that familiar with the 3.2 engine as of yet, (just picked up the new TL-S yesterday) but in regards to advancing timing I know of a variety of Maxima drivers who had their timing advanced and reported good results. I don't recall hp gains, but driveability was said to be good, and no problems were encountered. I'll try and run a search on the maxima forums, try to refresh my memory.
This may be different with the VTEC engine, I'm not sure, but advanced timing is probably a possibility. I would trust an Acura dealer more than some random mechanic though to do it... unless you are really really confident in the mechanic.
youd have to get a chip or get a vtec controller, eather way, the gains are almost not worth spendin the money on. like 10 hp. def not something that is worth sayin " ok i advanced your timing, and now your ready to race".
Originally Posted by vr-tls
he probably meant adjusting your ignition timing. Probably gain a little but not worth the risk of detonating. Im not sure how much knock our cars can handle but not worth it
...but he did say that he could adjust my timing belt somehow to create more power?
Originally Posted by HockeyMan0920
damn this thread keeps coming back and back....i found my answers already guys!
/I had to go there.
//Funniest thread eva
///3 months too late
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and the headers will yield at least 20 whp, which I think is a good amount of power. He can't adjust anything without a piggyback or stand alone system. Our ECUs are not programmable.

Besides, adjusting timing requires adjustable cam gears, and well, nobody makes one for our cars.
