What makes the TL-S a TL-S

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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 04:53 PM
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What makes the TL-S a TL-S

Before you groan, what I mean is, what engines parts make it have more ponies than the TL-P. I found all the cosmetic differences in earlier searches. But the dealer told me the engine is the same in both cars but he did not go into detail about what accounts for the HP gain. Can someone answer this for me.
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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 05:15 PM
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Have you looked at www.acura.com ???

I'm being serious. They have a link to "Type-S models." Might find your answer(s) there and you can't find a better source - the maker of the car.

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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 05:19 PM
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WITHOUT GETTING ALL TECHNICAL THE TYPE S HAS
BETTER AIR INTAKE(2 STAGE)
HIGHER COMPRESSION
DIFF. CAM(NOT 100% POSS. ON THIS ONE)
AND THE 260hp IS ACHIEVED AT A HIGHER RPM

i'M SURE I MISSED SOMETHING BUT THATS ALL I GOT
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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 07:40 PM
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different throttle body as well
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Old Jun 17, 2003 | 11:41 PM
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Maybe this will help... (From Car & Driver)

"Type S has a 260-hp engine. That's a jump of 35 horsepower over the standard V-6, accompanied by a boost in torque of 16 pound-feet (from 216 to 232). Oh, and did we mention a tach redline that now starts at 6900 rpm? (It was previously just 6300.)
To effect these improvements, Acura engineers adopted a throttle valve that has been enlarged by 64 millimeters, and lowered the air filter and duct flow resistance to optimize engine-breathing characteristics. The result is a claimed 50 percent increase in flow on the test bench.
Then the engineers grafted on a dual-stage intake manifold with integral velocity stacks. A butterfly valve separates the front and rear cylinder-bank inlet tracts at low speeds to take advantage of so-called resonance charging and shares them at high revs to allow better inertial charging.
The intake valves are a high-flow variant developed by Honda Racing. As usual at Acura, VTEC variable valve timing and lift is used to optimize both low- and high-speed engine performance. But on the Type S, the intake valves are a high-flow variant developed by Honda Racing, with an extra lip that is claimed to improve engine power by one percent because the lip reduces airflow turbulence and increases airflow without changing the diameter of the valve or the seat.
Because these substantial improvements in cylinder filling led to proportionally higher cylinder pressures, Acura engineers adopted thin-wall, spin-cast cylinder liners, which were found to provide improved knocking limits.
Okay, having allowed a larger fuel-air charge in, and having squeezed it tighter before setting it on fire (the Type S has a 10.5:1 compression ratio compared with the base 9.8:1)"

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 12:15 AM
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Thanks guys
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 09:21 AM
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It also has a red, Type-S emblem on the back and a different shift knob. Oh yeah, it costs a little more for the emblems, too.
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by r10apple
It also has a red, Type-S emblem on the back and a different shift knob. Oh yeah, it costs a little more for the emblems, too.
The type-S badge alone is good for about 10hp. Add some VTEC stickers for more power (the bigger the stickers the more power you get!)
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 01:19 PM
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one more thing,

"Exhaust flow is increased by 30% thanks to a larger-diameter exhaust pipe, an increased-flow catalytic converter and ultra-high-flow-capacity dual mufflers"
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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See, this is a very informative thread
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 03:01 PM
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Ahhhh, I think the ABS is a 4-way system vs. a 3-way system like in the TL-P... Of course, this is not an engine difference, but not a cosmetic one either.

Did anyone mention TCS vs. VSA?
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Old Jun 18, 2003 | 05:30 PM
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Don't forget the rims & Suspension upgrade.
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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 11:42 AM
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comeon guys dont forget it just looks nicer w the rims its baically the same car as the tl but when u see its a type s it just appears nicer just like the mustang and the mustang gt the gt just looks nicer when it is a gt atleast to me
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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 03:01 PM
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Don't forget the sport seats, stiffer suspension, white-face gauges and torque-sensitive steering.
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Old Jun 19, 2003 | 10:01 PM
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It's funny Acura says the Type-S model has stiffer suspension. Just how soft is the suspension on the TL-P, then? Because I think the S suspension is soft as fock.
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Old Jun 20, 2003 | 12:28 AM
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Re: What makes the TL-S a TL-S

Originally posted by bigsherv
Before you groan, what I mean is, what engines parts make it have more ponies than the TL-P. I found all the cosmetic differences in earlier searches. But the dealer told me the engine is the same in both cars but he did not go into detail about what accounts for the HP gain. Can someone answer this for me.
About $2,300.00 give or take.

(I stand corrected!)
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Old Jun 20, 2003 | 09:28 PM
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Actually, the Type-S is a 2,000-dollar option.
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