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Old 07-09-2005, 03:03 AM
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Tranny solution!

So i was looking thru a old issue of sport compact and saw a VW with a Caddy NorthStar V8 in it, and started thinking WHAT IF!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????? (300HP 275ft/lb) if he could do that to a VW i could do it to a Acura!!!











































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or should i try a 6 Speed conversion???????????????
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Kris... if you're going to do a 6-speed conversion, I want in on it.
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i think the 6 speed conversion might be a lil easier. well at least you wont have to figure out how to mount that V8 in there. plus your weight is gonna be soooo much more in the front. prob won't handle too nice. but then again i cant tell if you are joking or not.
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Originally Posted by brado
i think the 6 speed conversion might be a lil easier. well at least you wont have to figure out how to mount that V8 in there. plus your weight is gonna be soooo much more in the front. prob won't handle too nice. but then again i cant tell if you are joking or not.
hey in the VW the V8 was only 60lbs more than the VR6 was!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Kris... if you're going to do a 6-speed conversion, I want in on it.
if i can figure out the electrical id do it!

i may need a sho manual for this (yea yea i hate asking for manuals and directions)
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
if i can figure out the electrical id do it!

i may need a sho manual for this (yea yea i hate asking for manuals and directions)
I must say, I've never used a shop manual to work on my car before. But my brother has an Acura shop manual for his UA6, and they are pretty good.

I think the best way would be to find a totalled CL-S6 and rip everything out, and replace in the TL.
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Oh, yeah, I've wanted to ask you something.

It's off-topic, sorry, but here's the basics. My buddy works at a Honda dealership and there's a J35A4 off an Odyssey that he's getting. It was replaced under warranty, and the dealership gave it to him instead of throwing it out.

He's offered it to me for 250 bucks. The entire motor. I think this will be the perfect opportunity to do the 3.5L upgrade. The heads are warped on the engine, hence the warranty replacement, I guess. But all I need is the block, anyway.

What do you think?
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Oh, yeah, I've wanted to ask you something.

It's off-topic, sorry, but here's the basics. My buddy works at a Honda dealership and there's a J35A4 off an Odyssey that he's getting. It was replaced under warranty, and the dealership gave it to him instead of throwing it out.

He's offered it to me for 250 bucks. The entire motor. I think this will be the perfect opportunity to do the 3.5L upgrade. The heads are warped on the engine, hence the warranty replacement, I guess. But all I need is the block, anyway.

What do you think?

Id grab it! the block and crank are what you really want! the type-s heads combined with custom pistons is what makes it a killer!!! (from what ive read and figured out)
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
I must say, I've never used a shop manual to work on my car before. But my brother has an Acura shop manual for his UA6, and they are pretty good.

I think the best way would be to find a totalled CL-S6 and rip everything out, and replace in the TL.
im so pissed at myself. on my last tranny failure i had the chance to buy a whle front clip from a cl-s 6 speed for 5500 bucks and didnt. (that was engine frame tranny-- everything) and i passed it up for a trany with 10k for 900 bucks)
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Would you like to assist? I will pay for your hotel, food, alcohol , etc.

I have to admit that this will be beyond my current skill level.
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
im so pissed at myself. on my last tranny failure i had the chance to buy a whle front clip from a cl-s 6 speed for 5500 bucks and didnt. (that was engine frame tranny-- everything) and i passed it up for a trany with 10k for 900 bucks)
I think that officially allows me to kick you square in the nether region.
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
I think that officially allows me to kick you square in the nether region.
OK if you must, ill allow it
















on the other hand i found a 2004 north star tranny, engine and puter for 2000 (come on like teh sound of a V8 300hp and 275 ft/lb doesnt sound cool to you in a acura!)
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
OK if you must, ill allow it
















on the other hand i found a 2004 north star tranny, engine and puter for 2000 (come on like teh sound of a V8 300hp and 275 ft/lb doesnt sound cool to you in a acura!)
The best part is that the Northstar engine only required slight modifications for the RWD duty in the new STS. *hint, hint*
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
The best part is that the Northstar engine only required slight modifications for the RWD duty in the new STS. *hint, hint*
actually it requires alot to go rwd (ive checked into it for my S10 )

fwd is a whole different animal :insetgrabandstrokegoteeandandgohummmmmmmm: here
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
actually it requires alot to go rwd (ive checked into it for my S10 )

fwd is a whole different animal :insetgrabandstrokegoteeandandgohummmmmmmm: here
Sorry, I left my decoder at home... What the hell did you say?


As for the RWD conversion, yeah, it will take a lot. But I was just saying that the engine definitely has the capability for the RWD duty. Now modifying the TL chassis to accommodate the RWD configuration will be a bitch.
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Sorry, I left my decoder at home... What the hell did you say?


As for the RWD conversion, yeah, it will take a lot. But I was just saying that the engine definitely has the capability for the RWD duty. Now modifying the TL chassis to accommodate the RWD configuration will be a bitch.
inset grab and stroke gotee and go hummmmmmmm


teh engine requires a whole different cooling system (bummer), bellhouding (not readily available) different IM (factory one would be facing firewall) and many other lil things.

fwd would be much easier

10fourRodgerDogerWillDoOverAndOut!
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
inset grab and stroke gotee and go hummmmmmmm


teh engine requires a whole different cooling system (bummer), bellhouding (not readily available) different IM (factory one would be facing firewall) and many other lil things.

fwd would be much easier

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Okay, scratch that idea, then.

Either way, a Northstar swap into a TL would be sweet.
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Okay, scratch that idea, then.

Either way, a Northstar swap into a TL would be sweet.
Cool!!!!
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Why don't you guys just pick up the phone and call each other
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if you put that engine in a tl..... you would be my hero. The other thing i had questions on is people have taken parts out of the mdx or type s and put them on the tl-p for performance grades but usually people are doing like 6 different parts at once which i dont have the money for. Are there any individual pieces from any other engine that can be put in the tl-p engine and still show a performance improvement?
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Why don't you guys just pick up the phone and call each other
WHY Wheres the funn in that We can get more accomplished online


Originally Posted by soccerbenk
if you put that engine in a tl..... you would be my hero. The other thing i had questions on is people have taken parts out of the mdx or type s and put them on the tl-p for performance grades but usually people are doing like 6 different parts at once which i dont have the money for. Are there any individual pieces from any other engine that can be put in the tl-p engine and still show a performance improvement?
you should be able to mount teh mdx manifold, type s manifold (need a rpm activated switch to control 2nd stage of intakes) while no one has done it yet(that i know of, NSXNEXT will probably be the first) there should be HP improvements
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Originally Posted by Shaqs2002TLS
Why don't you guys just pick up the phone and call each other


Kris, go for the 6S swap. You'd be the envy of all 2GTL owners.
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How much does the engine weigh ? .....more like, what's the difference in weight between the two engines. Not to rain on your parade, but if it's significant, wouldn't it unbalance the car ?
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If you go with the 6 speed swap and it goes well I would do the same. If you decide to do so keep everyone posted cause I'm truelly interested in doing it myself also.
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if they did a 6speed swap into an av6 i dont see why it wouldnt fit into the TL just gotta do the cosmetics (gauges, shirter, no more vsa). shit that would be lovely. tired of this crapomatic! mine's back in the shop for the 4th time. my supposed "Upgraded tranny"
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will you guys quit talkin, and get on with it already!
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why the hell didn't acura put a 6spd on the tl's. Such a pathetic shame! How much are you guys thinkin' installation of a 6spd would cost total and what exactly is needed to do so. A list would be awesome.
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They could talk on the phone....but then who would educate us?
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someone should think of something.. most of us are close to hittin 100k might as we'll do something out of the box........
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V6P guys are working on a transmission upgrade kit. Keep your fingers crossed.
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do you have a thread? i'd like to read about taht
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Originally Posted by pimpravi
do you have a thread? i'd like to read about taht
Here you go. If you have an account at V6P, then post and let them know that you're interested.

http://www.v6performance.net/forums/...ad.php?t=56612
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Kris --

I just found out that the engine is a J35A8, the new Odysseey engine. Has 4,000 miles on it. My friend told me J35A4 by mistake. Woohoo! Even better. I'm excited.
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Here you go. If you have an account at V6P, then post and let them know that you're interested.

http://www.v6performance.net/forums/...ad.php?t=56612


Thanks for that link. Sounds pretty interesting.
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Here you go. If you have an account at V6P, then post and let them know that you're interested.

http://www.v6performance.net/forums/...ad.php?t=56612
Looks like they are working on making an auto & manual. I wonder if it includes the 4 speed for the 99 TL's.
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How much does the engine weigh ? .....more like, what's the difference in weight between the two engines. Not to rain on your parade, but if it's significant, wouldn't it unbalance the car ?
well that engine is only 60lbs more than a VW VR6 engine (not sure how much that is, so it cant weigh much more than ours. the tranny in our cars is hands down the heaviest tranny ive ever lifted.(fwd) it probably weighs close to 2 chevy 350 trannies


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Kris --

I just found out that the engine is a J35A8, the new Odysseey engine. Has 4,000 miles on it. My friend told me J35A4 by mistake. Woohoo! Even better. I'm excited.
oh man that is awsome. if you dont take it i will!

imagine that with a 6 speed!
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anything can be done with cashola
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anything can be done with cashola
thats teh key, to do it with out it costing alot. if your (me in this instance) does all teh labor it shouldnt cost that much. (cheaper than a new tranny from acura)
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
well that engine is only 60lbs more than a VW VR6 engine (not sure how much that is, so it cant weigh much more than ours. the tranny in our cars is hands down the heaviest tranny ive ever lifted.(fwd) it probably weighs close to 2 chevy 350 trannies



oh man that is awsome. if you dont take it i will!

imagine that with a 6 speed!
You'll have to pry it off my kungfu grip.

By the end of this week, he'll have the entire crate taken over to another friend's place (lives in an apartment, no place to store it). Then we're gonna take a look around the engine bay, do some research, and have at it. If everything goes according to plan and smoothly, I just might have a 3.5L block upgrade in a few weeks.


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