I know people have b*tched about this but now that I have a TL I feel I can personally b*tch.

The other day when it was raining I figured here's a good time to test it. I was at a light and I jumped on the gas. Well the tires screamed to bloody hell. What the hell does the TCS do?

The lame ass Saturn this car replaced had much better TCS. The Saturn would use fuel cutoff to stop me from spinning the wheels.

All I can say is, "lame"

 

You must have turned the TCS off... it's on by default. The car WILL NOT peel out and "scream to bloody hell" with TCS on.

 

I agree, I've never had problems with my TCS. Doopster, if the TCS light is on your TCS is turned off.

 

It was on a wet blacktop. The TCS light was off. I have only seen the TCS try to do something once. I was coming to a stop on loose gravel and I felt the car jerk and the TCS light blink.


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Well, our TCS is just garbage IMHO...

We don't have the yaw control, and I don't think the TCS will cut the fuel either. The only thing it does to apply front brake...

 

Ugh... that's not TCS, that's ABS if you were coming to a stop...

Take your car to the dealer when it's wet and show him that. If the car is ok, it will NOT peel out. It will just sit there and groan while the TCS is kicking in. Trust us.

 

TCS uses the front brakes to control wheelspin, and it only works under 18MPH.

If you floor it in the rain, the TCS is going to react, but giving it wide-open-throttle with no traction is going to have the wheels overcoming that 18MPH threshold pretty quickly. The TCS isn't going to clamp down with the front brakes and roast your pads and/or fight with your torque converter while you keep you right foot planted. Nothing is going to totally prevent you from peeling out if you floor it in the rain.

My TCS works as advertised.

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TCS works by applying brakes on the spinning wheels in order to maintain traction. In a way, it's somewhat the exact opposite of ABS. This system is not the same as VSA and is designed to get you off the line without spinning your wheels. Sounds like there might be something wrong with your system.

Personally, I think the system is great. Works real well in snow. VSA would be even better but oh well.

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That's probably what happened to me. They really should have fuel cutoff.

 

They do on the TL-S, it's VSA.

 

sure 18mph,not 25mph.Oh well

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When driving my TL on the snow, the TCS came on quite frequently when starting out. Works great in my opinion!

I also see it coming on frequently when driving in the rain. I love it.


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TCS Sucks.
Ed

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I think it works until 25mph (40km/h)

 

TCS - Total Crap System

TCS sucks! I totally agree with Ed and many ohters in this forum. What's the point of having a light blinking on and off when it ain't doin shit for you. Now, VSA on the other hand would have been worthwile to have on our beloved.

 

We need to live with a live axle for a while, right

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Man I have NO idea what everyone is talking about. Driving in the snow, it comes on and I steadily accelerate away. Works great.


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I forgot to mention that TCS lowered my 60' time at the track by .4 seconds. More proof that it works.

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That's just proof TCS can outdrive you, not that it works as advertised =P


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Hey, that's Mr. Wong from icebox.com! Boy I miss that site.

 

That was on the main circuit at Summit Point Raceway. I have done quite a few autocrosses but haven't done one in the TL yet. Driving school is a lot more fun though. Do you auto-x competitively? That C5 should be awesome.


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eujinc. where were you road racing in your sig?? You live in SS?? THere are a few autocrosses coming up... do u autoX?



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daverman : yup hehehe I miss that site too

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You have no business jumping on the gas on a rain slick surface, TCS or not. If you accelerate in a normal fashion you will move easily. If there is any slippage the TCS will kick in and help you. It was not however designed to oversome foolishness.

 

When the light is on, Does that mean it is on or ON or OFF

Because sometime when you floor it and the light is off, the light will blink , I confused

 

When the light is on, Does that mean it is on or ON or OFF

Because sometime when you floor it and the light is off, the light will blink , I confused

 

Its on by default when you start the car. When you push the button and the light comes on on the dash, the TCS system is dissabled.

The TCS on the TL is the biggest joke of a system ive ever seen.

 

So why does the light flash when you punch it ( Snow or Rain )

 

I don't think they should....I want to drive the car. I don't want the car driving for me or trying to 'help' me out.

The TCS is good if your stuck in the snow and trying to get out at low speeds (<18MPH) it wasn't designed for what you were doing.

 

To let you know its working...or at least trying to

 

But if it is ON with the light OFF, thats means it is turning Off when I punch it

 

Read my lips.

1. If you turn TCS OFF, the light comes on to remind you that it's turned off.
2. If TCS is ON, then when it gets activated (wheel spin), the light comes ON to let you know that it's being engaged.

 

Tcs is like for my grand father .. someone who doesnt whant the weels to spin and doesnt whant to do a thing.. its gay :P can whe disable it all the time (remove fuse or something) without the light on in the dash ?

 

the TCS works fine with my TL. it was snowing awhile back and it was slippery and my TCS just controled my car automaticly and it wasnt even on.

 

its allways on, unless u turn it off.

 

its never turned on though... its usually off and it turned on automaticly when it happened

 

Where do you live to talk like that about snow.. tcs is pure shit in snow, it doesnt controle a ting, just snap the brakes all the times.. !!!

 

Holy old post, Batman - welcome to four and a half years ago.

The TCS was not designed to overcome stupidity. If you slam the accelerator pedal down from a stop on a slick surface, it will attempt to do something but this is really beyond its control.

If you start off normally the TCS light will flash and it will regulate wheel spin. It's helped me out a lot lately in the rain because my tires are worn.

 

Maybe in rain .. but anyway just have to press less on the pedal .. on snow i really HATE tcs ...

 

Yeah, I stomped the gas and got a little wheelspin trying to cross an intersection and the stupid TCS cut fuel and bogged the engine.