just traded my type S for a Buick Lesabre

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Old 12-16-2002 | 01:15 PM
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just traded my type S for a Buick Lesabre

Well, my tranny went and that is the loaner i was given. Does anyone know how long i will be driving my new Buick hot rod? The dealership said 2 weeks for a new tranny to come in but I'm not sure how honest they are being with that date. I had two 80 year old ladies give me their digits and I'm getting worried this car will lead to prunes and Ensure shakes.
Old 12-16-2002 | 01:16 PM
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What dealer did you drop it off at?
Old 12-16-2002 | 01:21 PM
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Acura in Springfield NJ. Can I push for a better loaner? i did a search and it seemed like most people recieved crappy loaners.
Old 12-16-2002 | 01:23 PM
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Well, typically Acura gives loaners from Enterprise... so you're going to get what they have.

As for service time... I've read as quick as 5 days and as long as 6 weeks for a tranny. Since there is no more backorder problem the 2 week estimate should be about right....
Old 12-16-2002 | 01:30 PM
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I dropped my '02 CL-S off on a Monday night .. they diagnosed it Tues afternoon .. new tranny was to be in house by Thurs .. it actually came in on Fri morning .. had my car by 3:30pm that afternoon. (this was the week before thanksgiving)

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Old 12-16-2002 | 01:37 PM
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I'm driving 1000 miles over the next two weeks so if I don't get my car until after Christmas I can at least put the miles on their car. I still can't believe how fast the tranny went.
Old 12-16-2002 | 02:00 PM
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dude dont scare me like that. i thought you traded your tl for a buick!

god damn the scariest thing i have ever heard.
Old 12-16-2002 | 02:36 PM
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I though you really traded your TL-S too.

Originally posted by asloudasitgets
dude dont scare me like that. i thought you traded your tl for a buick!

god damn the scariest thing i have ever heard.
I recently had to drive a Buick Regal, didn't enjoy it (probably because I didn't know it was a sleeper car...240hp/280 torque). and I've sat and driven my Dad's LeSabre...so I couldn't figure out why you did that.

Only "recent" Buick I thought was decent was a supercharged Buick Park Ave that I rented for a ride through LasVegas...San Francisco and back... Nice and (idiot co-driver wanted to drive a Malibu 'cause it was smaller) spacious. 4 people+luggage...easy.
A little scary going up that Calif. Coastal Highway (rt 1?) with the beast though, I swear that must have been the scariest long ride of my life...

P.s. Our trunks are pretty useless...
Old 12-16-2002 | 03:38 PM
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Damn i thought he traded his TL-S for a granny's car.
I was like WTF reading the topic.
Old 12-16-2002 | 05:06 PM
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Damn i thought he traded his TL-S for a granny's car.
I was like WTF reading the topic.
I know dude, I WAS LIKE WTF.. I was about to have a Heart Attack..:wow: :wow:
Old 12-16-2002 | 06:10 PM
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Re: I though you really traded your TL-S too.

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I recently had to drive a Buick Regal, didn't enjoy it (probably because I didn't know it was a sleeper car...240hp/280 torque). and I've sat and driven my Dad's LeSabre...so I couldn't figure out why you did that.
maybe it was Buick Regal LS, only 205HP. Not too much to enjoy.

If you had driven the 240HP/280lbs*ft Regal GS, you would have immediately known it.
Old 12-16-2002 | 07:46 PM
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Re: Re: I though you really traded your TL-S too.

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maybe it was Buick Regal LS, only 205HP. Not too much to enjoy.

If you had driven the 240HP/280lbs*ft Regal GS, you would have immediately known it.
Nope, I checked. It was the GS. I couldn't understand why the rental person said this was a nice car (cause I was paying extra for the rental...with only 5k miles). I made it a point to look at the designation...I remember GS on the body and the giveaway was the monochrome grill.

Basically it was the engine I didn't like. It wasn't really refined. Very loud, kind of like a 4 cylinder or truck. Not that the TL is quiet, but the noises weren't pleasurable like the TL. Also GM they updated the starter for "better winter" starts. But it was soo cheap sounding :yack:
Come to think of it at highway speeds I felt as if I could go much faster (with ease...hey with 280 foot lbs of torque you betcha!), but driving around it floated worse than the TL-p even my wife mentioned that...so that's why I held back...besides it wasn't my car and I wasn't about to get into another accident. Basically I'm just so happy to be back in my TL. Maybe I'll need to get into a Caddy or something to enjoy GM cars again...

Don't get me wrong, I'll respect any regal I see (any monchrome one at least) since 280 foot lbs of torque is quite incredible.

BUT...good quality about the Regal...I think it's got a much bigger and more useful trunk!
Old 12-16-2002 | 07:49 PM
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God.. I admit, I was scared to
Old 12-16-2002 | 08:33 PM
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Re: Re: Re: I though you really traded your TL-S too.

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Nope, I checked. It was the GS. I couldn't understand why the rental person said this was a nice car (cause I was paying extra for the rental...with only 5k miles). I made it a point to look at the designation...I remember GS on the body and the giveaway was the monochrome grill.

Basically it was the engine I didn't like. It wasn't really refined. Very loud, kind of like a 4 cylinder or truck. Not that the TL is quiet, but the noises weren't pleasurable like the TL. Also GM they updated the starter for "better winter" starts. But it was soo cheap sounding :yack:
Come to think of it at highway speeds I felt as if I could go much faster (with ease...hey with 280 foot lbs of torque you betcha!), but driving around it floated worse than the TL-p even my wife mentioned that...so that's why I held back...besides it wasn't my car and I wasn't about to get into another accident. Basically I'm just so happy to be back in my TL. Maybe I'll need to get into a Caddy or something to enjoy GM cars again...

Don't get me wrong, I'll respect any regal I see (any monchrome one at least) since 280 foot lbs of torque is quite incredible.

BUT...good quality about the Regal...I think it's got a much bigger and more useful trunk!
I used to have a 98 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP (Regal's sister) and have no complaints. I really liked that car.

But if you want to see a really useful trunk - check out Chrysler 300M. You could put 5 bodies in there.
Old 12-16-2002 | 09:00 PM
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The title scared me too. I was thinking... OMG - he traded a real car in for a nice cushy couch with a steering wheel!!!
Old 12-16-2002 | 09:00 PM
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u want a big trunk?? check out my moms lime green 1997 mercury grand marquis (same exact thing as ford crown victoria). that thing is huge.
Old 12-17-2002 | 01:51 AM
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hey i used to owned a 96 regal with 3.8L
it was great and it never bailed me out...
it's smooth and fast, the 3.8L engine runs quieter than our TL too...no kidding

the lesabre is the best large size sedan around...second to avalon i believe...it's a decent car but the styling...err...

hope u will get ur TL back soon
Old 12-17-2002 | 01:56 AM
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Re: Re: Re: I though you really traded your TL-S too.

Originally posted by RedIntegra


Nope, I checked. It was the GS. I couldn't understand why the rental person said this was a nice car (cause I was paying extra for the rental...with only 5k miles). I made it a point to look at the designation...I remember GS on the body and the giveaway was the monochrome grill.

Basically it was the engine I didn't like. It wasn't really refined. Very loud, kind of like a 4 cylinder or truck. Not that the TL is quiet, but the noises weren't pleasurable like the TL. Also GM they updated the starter for "better winter" starts. But it was soo cheap sounding :yack:
Come to think of it at highway speeds I felt as if I could go much faster (with ease...hey with 280 foot lbs of torque you betcha!), but driving around it floated worse than the TL-p even my wife mentioned that...so that's why I held back...besides it wasn't my car and I wasn't about to get into another accident. Basically I'm just so happy to be back in my TL. Maybe I'll need to get into a Caddy or something to enjoy GM cars again...

Don't get me wrong, I'll respect any regal I see (any monchrome one at least) since 280 foot lbs of torque is quite incredible.

BUT...good quality about the Regal...I think it's got a much bigger and more useful trunk!
mabye that's ur rental car problem?? i had no problem with my regal b4 on hwy...mine wasn't the GS so the suspension is even softer and it has no problem for doing 100mph all the way for a 2 hr drive...the engine is smooth and refined at low end...

u know...usually rental cars got beaten up...can't reallie judge a car by a rental...

i remember someone said the camry was so loud coz his rental was loud...
Old 12-17-2002 | 05:02 AM
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Acura in Springfield NJ. Can I push for a better loaner? i did a search and it seemed like most people recieved crappy loaners.
LOL. I think that is the better loaner... Most folks get crummy compacts (Focus, Corolla, Neon, etc...).
Old 12-17-2002 | 08:24 AM
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Acura of Boston loans out RSX's

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LOL. I think that is the better loaner... Most folks get crummy compacts (Focus, Corolla, Neon, etc...).
I think they setup their own rental (no more Enterprise), they even discourage the CDW (i.e. I always buy it when renting for less than 1 week). The RSX I rented wasn't too shabby, built very nice.

I hope my current service dealer (Herb Connolly Acura) does the same, I hate getting crappy cars (even for only 1 day).
Old 12-17-2002 | 09:17 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: I though you really traded your TL-S too.

Originally posted by Ruski


I used to have a 98 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP (Regal's sister) and have no complaints. I really liked that car.

But if you want to see a really useful trunk - check out Chrysler 300M. You could put 5 bodies in there.
Isn't that the Audi A8?
Old 12-17-2002 | 04:06 PM
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Re: Re: I though you really traded your TL-S too.

Originally posted by Ruski


maybe it was Buick Regal LS, only 205HP. Not too much to enjoy.

If you had driven the 240HP/280lbs*ft Regal GS, you would have immediately known it.
My bet is the doofus at the rental place did not tell him about the little switch on the shift lever that changes it from economy to sport. As you might guess economy is the default. In sport the GS is like a 1966 v-8.
Old 12-17-2002 | 07:50 PM
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what switch?
Old 12-18-2002 | 04:51 PM
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This is really funny because I sold the Buick LeSabre I was given by my grandparents to buy my first TL-S
Old 12-18-2002 | 05:09 PM
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yea my 98 grand prix GTP had a little performance button on the shifter. Not sure if it is like that on the Buick, but it really did make a huge difference when driving with it.
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Originally posted by GaddAMIT
yea my 98 grand prix GTP had a little performance button on the shifter. Not sure if it is like that on the Buick, but it really did make a huge difference when driving with it.
No switch, just this ugly bulb with a button on top, shifting the thing moved the entire shift box (and it felt loose)!

I think the torque on the Regal was nice and I really liked the turning lights too.

We'll one thing for sure....I know GM has always had bulletproof transmissions
Old 12-18-2002 | 06:22 PM
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Trunk

I think our trunk is decent. Bigger than a 96 Maxima trunk.
Old 12-18-2002 | 08:16 PM
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Regal GS never had the performance shift button. Only the Grand Prix used to have it in '97-'99 model years. Then they took it out.
Old 12-19-2002 | 06:28 PM
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The '00 Regal GS I drove had the economy/performance button. I believe the regal he rented was an LS.
Old 12-20-2002 | 06:09 AM
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Originally posted by jdone
The '00 Regal GS I drove had the economy/performance button. I believe the regal he rented was an LS.
NO NO NO.

I checked, it was a GS.
I was explicitly looking for LS, besides this one had the monochrome front which is the GS.
Old 12-20-2002 | 02:57 PM
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it is pretty amazing that a rentalcompany would offer a GS.
Old 12-20-2002 | 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by Ruski
it is pretty amazing that a rentalcompany would offer a GS.
The Enterprise branch on Western Ave in Brighton MA has some neat cars. altima's, Volvo S60, rented a Saab 95 to my dad when he needed a rental.

Next time (renting for a trip...), I will ask for a Volvo S60, they had a S60 that was supposed to be dropped of that Monday...but the renter liked it so much they asked to keep it for another week. The lady that was supposed to get it grabbed a SUV instead.

PS
I didn't like the S60 when I test drove it (maybe it was it was just okay. engine didn't wow me), my friend's fiancee got rid of her's 'cause she hated it :wow: , got a used Audi A6 wagon (Avant?) instead.
Old 12-20-2002 | 10:57 PM
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what kind of prices do they charge for all these nice cars?
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