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Old 12-31-2017 | 03:48 PM
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My car is making loud squeaking sound when i turn the steering wheel. Ive isolated to the front passenger side. I took a look un the car and by the tire. Looks like the ball joint is torn. Ive looked at acura oem and looks like i need the follwing. Do the ball joint need greased?

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ive looked at rockauto and their ball joint looks like the whole assembly. Acuras looks like several pieces that have to be assemble.

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Old 12-31-2017 | 04:42 PM
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the car is a 2002 Acura TL.
Old 12-31-2017 | 05:03 PM
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This is what you need. It's not a small job and requires some special tools.If you are not at all familiar with the process I would recommend taking it to a shop.


https://www.amazon.com/Moog-K9643-Front-Lower-Joint/dp/B000C5A1DE/ref=au_as_r?_encoding=UTF8&Make=Acura%7C58&Model=TL%7C749&Year=2002%7C2002&ie=UTF8&n=15684181&newVehicle=1&s=automotive&vehicleId=1&vehicleType=automotive https://www.amazon.com/Moog-K9643-Front-Lower-Joint/dp/B000C5A1DE/ref=au_as_r?_encoding=UTF8&Make=Acura%7C58&Model=TL%7C749&Year=2002%7C2002&ie=UTF8&n=15684181&newVehicle=1&s=automotive&vehicleId=1&vehicleType=automotive

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Old 12-31-2017 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Iggy
This is what you need. It's not a small job and requires some special tools.If you are not at all familiar with the process I would recommend taking it to a shop.


https://www.amazon.com/Moog-K9643-Front-Lower-Joint/dp/B000C5A1DE/ref=au_as_r?_encoding=UTF8&Make=Acura%7C58&Model=T L%7C749&Year=2002%7C2002&ie=UTF8&n=15684181&newVeh icle=1&s=automotive&vehicleId=1&vehicleType=automo tive
so the one you posted is the whole ball joint. Why is the oem ones different?
Old 12-31-2017 | 05:50 PM
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https://acurazine.com/forums/second-...l-area-964166/
Recently replaced it. Would recommend rent C clamp and proper sockets for it. For me wasn't big dill to do it. Didn't even bother to post here what to do. Pull out steering knuckle and kick out LBJ with sledge hammer. Then use C clamp to press in. I have habit of putting LBJ in freezer over night and pull out of freezer just before using it. Pickle fork worth every penny in this situation to take apart steering knuckle from lower control arm.
Just to give you idea I replaced Lower ball joint and tie end rod at my Acura and both lower ball joints and one tie end rod at my Ford pickup in span of one month over weekends. It is routine job. Google how to use sledge hammer to open ball joints. But for lower ones pickle fork is way to go unless you want reuse joint.

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Old 12-31-2017 | 07:31 PM
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Recently replaced it. Would recommend rent C clamp and proper sockets for it. For me wasn't big dill to do it. Didn't even bother to post here what to do. Pull out steering knuckle and kick out LBJ with sledge hammer. Then use C clamp to press in. I have habit of putting LBJ in freezer over night and pull out of freezer just before using it. Pickle fork worth every penny in this situation to take apart steering knuckle from lower control arm.
Just to give you idea I replaced Lower ball joint and tie end rod at my Acura and both lower ball joints and one tie end rod at my Ford pickup in span of one month over weekends. It is routine job. Google how to use sledge hammer to open ball joints. But for lower ones pickle fork is way to go unless you want reuse joint.
did u use oem or after market?
Old 12-31-2017 | 08:22 PM
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Whatsoever napa given to me. 20$ one. LBJ is just slightly more complicated than brakes. Do not worth much of thinking.
Old 12-31-2017 | 08:47 PM
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Is there no oem ball joint?
Old 12-31-2017 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 2Quik
Is there no oem ball joint?
If you find one you will pay way too much. MOOG is as good (in this case) as OEM.
Old 01-01-2018 | 08:41 PM
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My personal experience with Moog lower ball joints for this car wasn't a good one because one of the lower ball joints that I installed did not have a drop of grease in it and I discovered that only when the ball joint came apart after 7K miles of driving.

I replaced both sides with AC Delco ones and haven't had any issues.

You will not find a LBJ for this car with a grease fitting due to there being almost no clearance between the LBJ and the axle.
Old 01-02-2018 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Iggy
This is what you need. It's not a small job and requires some special tools.If you are not at all familiar with the process I would recommend taking it to a shop.

What is the difficulty of this job?

Wouldn't renting a ball joint press kit from the car parts store (Autozone, etc) be sufficient?
Old 01-18-2018 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MBP 03
My personal experience with Moog lower ball joints for this car wasn't a good one because one of the lower ball joints that I installed did not have a drop of grease in it and I discovered that only when the ball joint came apart after 7K miles of driving.

I replaced both sides with AC Delco ones and haven't had any issues.

You will not find a LBJ for this car with a grease fitting due to there being almost no clearance between the LBJ and the axle.
Did the Moog you used have a rubber boot? They have changed many of their Ball Joints to an integral metal boot so it look like there is no boot or grease. Mine had rubber boots and they were remove during installation. I put more grease in when reinstalling the boot.
Old 01-18-2018 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by marso
Did the Moog you used have a rubber boot? They have changed many of their Ball Joints to an integral metal boot so it look like there is no boot or grease. Mine had rubber boots and they were remove during installation. I put more grease in when reinstalling the boot.
This happened about 4 years ago, but I do remember the Moog LBJ having a rubber boot that was not removable. When the ball joint failed, I saw that there was not a drop of grease inside. To play it safe, I got rid of the Moog LBJ on the other side of the car and when I cut that boot open, there was plenty of grease in there.
Old 01-19-2018 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by marso
Did the Moog you used have a rubber boot? They have changed many of their Ball Joints to an integral metal boot so it look like there is no boot or grease. Mine had rubber boots and they were remove during installation. I put more grease in when reinstalling the boot.
I've worked with their new integral boot joints and I love them. Unfortunately they don't offer them for our vehicles yet.
Old 01-21-2018 | 01:45 AM
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I had my MOOG LBJ units for around 3-4 years now. Around the same time for the UBJ which are also MOOGs.. Knock on Wood.
Old 01-21-2018 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Skirmich
I had my MOOG LBJ units for around 3-4 years now. Around the same time for the UBJ which are also MOOGs.. Knock on Wood.
If they're not loose or making noise by now, chances are that you're good with the grease and they'll just wear out like any other ball joint as the miles pile on.
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