98-2000 accords same as 2nd gen tl??

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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 07:24 PM
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98-2000 accords same as 2nd gen tl??

hey i was just wondering isnt the 98-2000 accords parts interchangable with the 99-01 tls?? trying to figure out cause a friend of mine is doing a tl engine swap in his accord. any help will be appreciated.

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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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The 99 TL and 98-02 V6 Accords shared the same engine and tranny.

The 98-02 Accord is also the same suspension as the 2nd gen TL.

What kind of swap is he doing(what motor)? Why not go with a CL-S motor with a 6 speed tranny?
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Old Sep 18, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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hell i dont know what he is doing.. he just ask me if it was possible.

i said yes cuz i thought it was the same motor too but i wasnt really thinking but ill tell him bout the cls motor.

when you say suspension is that the tie bars and camber kits and strut bars too or is it just the shocks and struts?

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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mclarenf3387
The 99 TL and 98-02 V6 Accords shared the same engine and tranny.

The 98-02 Accord is also the same suspension as the 2nd gen TL.

What kind of swap is he doing(what motor)? Why not go with a CL-S motor with a 6 speed tranny?

would an accord exhaust be able to fit the 99-00 TL??
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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Yes he can swap a tl engine into an accord. he needs to hang out in AV6, many accord owners have done that swap

here is a lil swap/conversion info

BLOCK/HEADS (incl. manifold (upper/lower), tb)
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J30A1/J30A1
advantage: no modification needed.
disadvantage: no torque until turbo/sc kicks in.

J30A1/J32A2
advantage: mid-range and top-end power
disadvantage: J30A1 pistons have to be modified to fit large J32A2 (intake) valves.
Not much torque until turbo/sc kicks in.

J32A2/J32A2
advantage: no modification needed, mid-range, top-end power.
disadvantage: torque is still ok but better than J30A1

J35A4/J30A1 (Odyssey '02-04/ '00-02 Accord V6)
advantage: no modifications needed, great torque, nice mid-range
disadvantage: top-end power

J35A3/J35A3 (Acura MDX '01-02)
advantage: no modifications needed, great torque, nice mid-range
disadvantage: little less air flow than J32A2 but very close.

This option looks like a good choice if getting the complete engine or even separate short block and cyl.
heads/manifold due to a price. And MDX the cyl.
heads are the same part # as CL-S, however intake valves and cams are different than CL-S.

J35A3/J32A2 ('01-02 MDX/CL-S '01-03) or J35A4/J32A2 (Odyssey '02-04/CL-S '01-03)
advantage: great entire powerband and especially torque.
disadvantage: Need CL-S or RL pistons.

There are also couple options:

Option 1
With '01-02 complete MDX block or '02-04 Odyssey complete block (crank/rods/pistons) it is required to purchase 2005 Acura RL
pistons (new set $50 each) This is a best option still since these pistons have clearance for large 36mm J32A2 (intake) valves
thus no modification needed. Despite the fact they have higher 11.0:1 CR still even supercharger can be used here with low boost
up to 7psi intercooled (assuming safe AFR). In addition, if 11:1 CR is too high for you, you can use '03 CL-S pistons with 10.5:1 CR.

Option 2
'01-03 J32A2 block (CL-S)
Required to purchase the following:

-= hondaautomotiveparts.com =-
'02-'04 Odyssey (crankshaft)
Product No. 368270 or
Honda part #13310-PGK-A00

'02-'04 Odyssey (connecting rod)
Product No. 368269 or
Honda part #13210-PGK-A00

Main bearings + rod bearings

-= acuraautomotiveparts.org =-
'03 CL-S (pistons) - 10.5:1 CR or
'05 RL (pistons) - 11.0:1 CR

pistons rings (per chosen model)

Note: Odyssey pistons do not have clearance to fit large 36mm J32A2 (intake) valves. Solution - custom job to increase valve pockets.

BTW, The only advantage to get J32A2 block is due to better cylinder sleeves to withstand heat designed for higher redline vehicle,
otherwise depending on the price Odyssey or MDX block are the best bet.

Keep in mind, J35A5 '03-04 MDX will not fit on 6th gen. AV6/CL/TL/CL-S/TL-S due to different design, and looks like only for 7th gen.
AV6.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Da_iLLeZt_TL973
would an accord exhaust be able to fit the 99-00 TL??
yes but it will be a little short
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Yes he can swap a tl engine into an accord. he needs to hang out in AV6, many accord owners have done that swap

blah blah .
Now your just scaring me! Damn the things you know!
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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hehe....agreed.

So with suspension pieces, will lowering springs fit? I might have a lead on some springs cheap, but they are for an accord.

BTW: I have an 03 TL-P
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny--2k
hehe....agreed.

So with suspension pieces, will lowering springs fit? I might have a lead on some springs cheap, but they are for an accord.

BTW: I have an 03 TL-P
Yep; suspension components are interchangeable between the '99-'03 TL and '98-'02 Accord, and of course, '01-'03 CL.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Pure Adrenaline
Yep; suspension components are interchangeable between the '99-'03 TL and '98-'02 Accord, and of course, '01-'03 CL.
Just make sure its for a V6 Accord.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 10:00 PM
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I thought the Accords never went above 3.0 liters, whereas the TLs were 3.2 liters. My friend has an '04 Acccord with 240 hp, with a 3.0, but my TL-P has a higher torque rating.
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 2002Blue32TL
I thought the Accords never went above 3.0 liters, whereas the TLs were 3.2 liters. My friend has an '04 Acccord with 240 hp, with a 3.0, but my TL-P has a higher torque rating.
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