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Old 03-24-2008 | 07:48 PM
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2nd Transmission in the trash

So my second transmission went two days ago.
It was having a hard time connecting when I would turn the car on and shift to D5. And when I was driving on the highway it finally decided to disconnect and the revs flew, and the car began to coast.

Oh well, Acura will have it fixed for me by tomorrow. And me and the girlfriend got a classy ride in a tow truck to finish off our date the other night.

I thought they had finally gotten the transmission issue right in the rebuilt transmissions, apparently not.
Old 03-24-2008 | 08:34 PM
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When was the second tranny installed? Was it before 2/05?
Old 03-24-2008 | 08:42 PM
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did you get a loaner? if so what is it?
Old 03-24-2008 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisQ1980
When was the second tranny installed? Was it before 2/05?
I wanna know too since that's when acura supposedly got the problem copletely fixed with the replacement trans. You said your was rebuilt? It wasn't a brand new trans then?
Old 03-24-2008 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mcflyguy24
I wanna know too since that's when acura supposedly got the problem copletely fixed with the replacement trans. You said your was rebuilt? It wasn't a brand new trans then?
They are all rebuilds. The only new thing they is the case if I'm not mistaken.
Old 03-24-2008 | 10:16 PM
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for rebuilds if the case is cracked or damage thats when its a new case, but if its still solid, its all rebuilt, then they take ur tranny, and store it, to use it later on..

when was ur tranny installed? feb 05?
Old 03-25-2008 | 02:19 AM
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not exactly---they changed the internal design on the case a few years ago- so if you have the orignal design they put that case in the recycle when it reaches the rebuilding shop. They take all the useable parts and put them into another unit for the bext person

The post 2005 replacements have a better life record that before- but it wil NEVER be fixed, all you can hope for is a good unit that last 100k
Mine got 5k and started acting funny, now its getting worse and into the shop for another freebie
Old 03-25-2008 | 02:00 PM
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So you only got 5k out of a post 05 replacement tranny?
Old 03-25-2008 | 02:15 PM
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it is BS that acura has priced their cars so high and is trying to maintain this "higher" standard of cars and then they make a shit tranny. if you get a $30000+ car you would expect some security. and not worry if your tranny is gonna give out and leave you stranded somewhere. and "fixed" problem doesnt seem that fixed to me. acura went downhill in my book.
Old 03-25-2008 | 02:17 PM
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mine was an 05 fix, since last year aug....put more than 12k miles...knock on wood
Old 03-25-2008 | 02:31 PM
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My 11/2006 replacement showed signs of 2nd gear shudder on shifting at about 5k miles
I kept putting miles on till more obvious and took a ride with the dealer tech.
He didnt feel it, but told me what to watch for and some test specific to my year and model.
Now its got about 15k on it and enough for them to feel 2nd and 3rd under light throttle shudder. Can even get a little slip if I try hard enough~
Just need to call them and drop it off- no prob on getting another one.
I always find the effedup one everywhere- so my case is extreme.
Any mechanical device is subject to human assembly error or actual parts failure.

For those who whine, there are many other choices of cars- these are not 30k cars they are 10-15k
Should the newest 07-08 ones be better cars because they cost a lot- hmmmm
made by the cheapest suppliers by often disgruntled workers..
I see no problem in that!
Old 03-25-2008 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by myron
it is BS that acura has priced their cars so high and is trying to maintain this "higher" standard of cars and then they make a shit tranny. if you get a $30000+ car you would expect some security. and not worry if your tranny is gonna give out and leave you stranded somewhere. and "fixed" problem doesnt seem that fixed to me. acura went downhill in my book.
Oh yea cause every manufacturer is perfect Explain the 2 trans my buddy had to put into his lexus on his dime and he was under 100k. Or the 2 times he had to replace head gaskets on his 7 series on his dime. Yes honda had a design flaw, but at least they upped the warranty and has tried to solve the problem, unlike other manufacturers.

And rebuilts arent perfect. Sometimes your going to have ones that just fail, just like new units.
Old 03-25-2008 | 03:36 PM
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^^ i agree, i still treat my car as it is 30k, and people think so as well....even if this tranny craps on me again (knock on wood) ill buy another, and anothee, the value of this car, and the reliability it has given me so far is great..
Old 03-25-2008 | 04:18 PM
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It was a major design flaw.

Consider if you purchased an 80K merc, and you found out it had major reliability issues and computer problems. Rated 2nd worst for defects.

With a little perspective I think you all see that Acura has delt with this problem very well.
Old 03-25-2008 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by myron
it is BS that acura has priced their cars so high and is trying to maintain this "higher" standard of cars and then they make a shit tranny. if you get a $30000+ car you would expect some security. and not worry if your tranny is gonna give out and leave you stranded somewhere. and "fixed" problem doesnt seem that fixed to me. acura went downhill in my book.

The prices set for any Acuras are not high at all for what your getting. Have you looked at other manufactures? Nothing comes standard.ie BMW, Benz, Lexus, etc. After all the options you paid on other brand of cars, you will think Hondas/Acuras are bargains. Yes, Honda has made a mistake on the tranny part, but as for the rest of the vehicle, there really isn't much problems. AND Honda did something about it-7yr/107k mi.

I think these $30k cars does have some securities. I have some family members with BMW and Benz's, and you think they dont have problems? Their cars are in the shop every month for stupid shit. (No start, tranny failure-YES TRANS FAILURE, Air suspensions taking a crap,etc.)You should go work at a benz dealer and tell me if their $100,000+ cars have some securities. Better get 7 benz for everyday of the week and see which one will start up in the morning.

Honda/Acura is far from downhill in my book.
Old 03-25-2008 | 06:24 PM
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Maybe it's merely coincidental but it seems that once the transmission starts to fail it continues to do so even with replacements.

I've seen many people with repeated transmission failure, some on their 4th or more.

I'm curious whether it's just a streak of bad luck or there is another factor in that particular car that exacerbates the transmission problem.
Old 03-25-2008 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by red00tl
Maybe it's merely coincidental but it seems that once the transmission starts to fail it continues to do so even with replacements.

I've seen many people with repeated transmission failure, some on their 4th or more.

I'm curious whether it's just a streak of bad luck or there is another factor in that particular car that exacerbates the transmission problem.
Those that you do read that from, most were before they even tried doing any thing about the problem, and during different attempts at fixing the problem
Old 03-25-2008 | 10:47 PM
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ok first of all all you are biast cuz you in every forum everyone thinks their cars are the best and everything else is crap.
and I was just saying that they went downhill from what kinds of cars they made before. 300 miles on a car and NO PROBLEMS at all. and now a 50000$ in canada and 40 000km and tranny goes to shit well I dont know what you would call it but a let down. and all the other brands are being sold for their name like BMW and Benz. so if I had 50000 would I get a honda or a bmw? bmw, no matter what kind of options honda comes with. and thats my opinion, and thats it.
Old 03-26-2008 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by myron
ok first of all all you are biast cuz you in every forum everyone thinks their cars are the best and everything else is crap.
and I was just saying that they went downhill from what kinds of cars they made before. 300 miles on a car and NO PROBLEMS at all. and now a 50000$ in canada and 40 000km and tranny goes to shit well I dont know what you would call it but a let down. and all the other brands are being sold for their name like BMW and Benz. so if I had 50000 would I get a honda or a bmw? bmw, no matter what kind of options honda comes with. and thats my opinion, and thats it.
what?
Old 03-26-2008 | 10:02 AM
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ok to sum it up.
-in this forum everyone thinks that tl is teh best car and everything else is shit.
-quality went downhill when compared to the cars they made before.
-someone said that for the price of a basemodel of a bmw or something like that you get a full loaded acura. yea but its still a honda and if I had a choice I would get a bmw or a benz or something along those lines. and not be the guy who paid 50000 for a honda. cuz a base model automatic TL starts at 54000 without taxes in canada. for that much money you can get a year or two old m3 and have a crazy ass car.

but again this may be cuz I am from europe and I grew up always wanting a euro car and not something asian. so dont start freaking out its just an opinion
Old 03-26-2008 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by myron
ok to sum it up.
-in this forum everyone thinks that tl is teh best car and everything else is shit.
-quality went downhill when compared to the cars they made before.
-someone said that for the price of a basemodel of a bmw or something like that you get a full loaded acura. yea but its still a honda and if I had a choice I would get a bmw or a benz or something along those lines. and not be the guy who paid 50000 for a honda. cuz a base model automatic TL starts at 54000 without taxes in canada. for that much money you can get a year or two old m3 and have a crazy ass car.

but again this may be cuz I am from europe and I grew up always wanting a euro car and not something asian. so dont start freaking out its just an opinion
Only one i see freaking out is you???

Where on this forum do you see that the TL is the best car every thing else is shit? How did that even come about in this thread? Try going out side of the TL forum and into cr talk and see how many on this forum actually like acura...

Look at the Tl, its 5-10 years old now (depending on the year) When it came out it WAS the bargain lux sedan. there want anything out there that had the options it did for the value.

And the other comment was, was good luck with what ever you buy. NOTHING is perfect. BMW, MB, Lexus etc.. They ALL have problems Thats all that was stated. Good luck with a used BMW, hope you get it with a certified pre-owned warranty (and thats just an opinion)


Oh and acura will not be my next vehicle so you cant say im standing up for honda or any thing else
Old 03-26-2008 | 12:08 PM
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were you informed of properly breaking in the rebuild transmission after the first replacement?
Old 03-26-2008 | 12:18 PM
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no no I wasnt freaking out, I was just stating that for that much money honda would be a little more serious. I wouldnt expect a 50g honda to have such severe problems. maybe form a 25g honda civic ex or something. and right away ppl started bringing up benzes and bmw and shit.
and far from it that any other car manufacturer is perfect.and also I am not directing my comments strictly at you. I am just talking in general
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Old 03-26-2008 | 03:32 PM
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Even if Acura didnt have the extended trans warranty with the FREE replacements or GOODWILL, you would still pay more for a BMW, Mercedes, Audi, possibly Lexus just in maintence costs.

So I think Acura/Honda is a pretty good product considering the only things that need to get done are wear items and maintence. Yes the tranny is iffy, but even if you had to pay the $3500 out of pocket it's still cheaper than buying/owning/maintaing a BMWhy
Old 03-26-2008 | 05:34 PM
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No if only Honda would put in GM's Hydra-Matic 6T70 6-speed automatic trans the TL would be bullet proof
Old 03-26-2008 | 08:44 PM
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No if only Honda would put in GM's Hydra-Matic 6T70 6-speed automatic trans the TL would be bullet proof

AAhhh Yes that would be Pure Genius!
Old 03-26-2008 | 09:20 PM
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this is non tl related, but a truck with a cummins diesel and a allison tranny would outlast just about anything .
Old 03-27-2008 | 03:15 PM
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The second transmission was installed more than 3 years ago, before I was even driving the TL. And I didn't get a loaner, it was the weekend, so noone was at the dealership. But they had it fixed by Tuesday afternoon, not a bad turn-around time if you ask me.
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Originally Posted by Mike_McCready
The second transmission was installed more than 3 years ago, before I was even driving the TL. And I didn't get a loaner, it was the weekend, so noone was at the dealership. But they had it fixed by Tuesday afternoon, not a bad turn-around time if you ask me.
If they have the trans it shouldnt be any longer than 4-6 hrs to do the job start to finish
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