19s better handling?

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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 03:39 AM
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19s better handling?

im using type s 17x7.5 215/45/17 so3 right now. would i have better or worse handling if i went to 19x8 rims using 225/35/19 pirrellis?

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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 04:44 AM
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Oh yeah. Your wheels/tires are part of your suspension. So, the smaller sidewall would give less body roll, providing a more responsive car. The wider tire will give more traction, too. You would notice better performance in every way, except maybe slow corners. Oh, the wider tire 'might' sacrifice a tenth of a mpg.
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 09:30 AM
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How worn are your S03's? How well did those stick for you?
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by SimTypeS
Oh yeah. Your wheels/tires are part of your suspension. So, the smaller sidewall would give less body roll, providing a more responsive car. The wider tire will give more traction, too. You would notice better performance in every way, except maybe slow corners. Oh, the wider tire 'might' sacrifice a tenth of a mpg.
Your also forgetting the weight penalty, 19s will feel a lot heavier than your 17s, slower starts, acceleration, etc....
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 11:15 AM
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just because the wheels are bigger does not necessarily mean that they are heavier. they make some really light 19's out there. you jut have to keep your eyes open.:wow:
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 11:31 AM
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how heavy are our stock rims?
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 11:57 AM
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If you're going to get 19 X 8, you should get 235 instead of 225.
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 01:45 PM
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i read a thread somewhere that said that if the rims are too big the tires will not hook up as fast off the line so if u race alot off the line i wouldt go more then 18's
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 02:32 PM
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to have the same acceleration, you need a lighter 19" than 18" because of the force needed to move mass that is further away
torque = FD
since torque is the same, and d is increased, F is decreased

19" don't handle that much better than 18", but they do have better response due to smaller sidewall, but body roll is THE SAME
springs and swaybars prevents body roll, not tires, but then again if you have better tires (pirelli), the more traction, and the more body roll, body roll is not induced just by having smaller tire side-wall


be warned, pirellis wear out fast
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 06:07 PM
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19" isn't that gd..too big...

it will decrease the braking performance compare to 18'
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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 08:14 PM
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Don't get 19's if you like to run your TL hard..19's are too big, slow acceleration, slow braking, and our suspensions are not set up to use 19's..Yeah 19's look tight on our cars, but unless you want to cruise around like your in a cadillac and never have some fun, you are gonna want 18's. They are better for our suspensions and better for overall performance for our cars. It's really a choice between bling bling or performance..I personally choose performance. If I want bling bling, I will get an SUV and throw 22's on it.
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Old Jun 29, 2002 | 04:11 AM
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Originally posted by FLAcuraTLS
If I want bling bling, I will get an SUV and throw 22's on it.
22's?? Why not 26'??:wow:
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Old Jun 29, 2002 | 06:05 AM
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stock rims w/tires = around 55lbs (TL-P)
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Old Jun 30, 2002 | 09:26 AM
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Don't get 19's if you like to run your TL hard..19's are too big, slow acceleration, slow braking, and our suspensions are not set up to use 19's..Yeah 19's look tight on our cars, but unless you want to cruise around like your in a cadillac and never have some fun, you are gonna want 18's. They are better for our suspensions and better for overall performance for our cars. It's really a choice between bling bling or performance..I personally choose performance. If I want bling bling, I will get an SUV and throw 22's on it.
I'll run you in handling anyday.....I even bet I run my car harder everyday than you do on your worst.I've had 16s, 18s and now 19s.....my car handles better, accelerates better and damn sure looks better with the 19s. and you say our suspension are not designed for 19s, well they're not designed for 18s either. So you may want to throw your term paper away and do your research again.............

And as for the bling bling appearance my 19" HRE 540s w/ full polish look better, are lighter and built better than the wheels made for our cars by Enkei.....
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Old Jun 30, 2002 | 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by NSX4DR


And as for the bling bling appearance my 19" HRE 540s w/ full polish look better, are lighter and built better than the wheels made for our cars by Enkei.....
Damn, I wish I had the extra money...
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Old Jun 30, 2002 | 05:53 PM
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Easy NSX boy, no need to get nasty..You spent a ridiculous amount of money on your HRE's which I will agree with you are awesome rims for build quality, weight, and look..But most of us aren't going to spend that type of money on 19's(I just have better things to do with that much money) and therefore most 19's are just too damn heavy..Our suspensions are NOT designed for such large wheels, numerous experts have told me that, from suspension people, to master mechanics, and shop owners. SO MY RESEARCH PAPER is substatiated by professional advice from experts. I dont know what your background is, but I will be going with what numerous pros have been telling me. 18's are much better for the "best" performance and handling. 19's do look better and definitely make our cars stand out more, but for REAL WORLD handling and performance, 18's are a better fit for a TL.
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Old Jun 30, 2002 | 08:47 PM
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would 18" racinghart evo c5 look good on our cars? thats what i think imma get....
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Old Jun 30, 2002 | 09:10 PM
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I have some 19's Hre 545 and its heavy as shi!!.... WHen i put them on for the weekend or whenever.. My car feel alot heavier and slower then when i have my 18's on.
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