ventura

I have a 05RL with dunlop 5000 tires.(bad tires) I need tires with comfort and quiet ride.PLEASE HELP

fredren

for what size rims? oem 17''?

ventura

yes, factory rims

ventura

yes factory rims

pickncrew

If I were keeping the factory rims my 1st choice would be Bridgestone Serenity and 2nd choice would be Toyo Versado LX. I think I'm going to 18's pretty soon though... I have 43k miles on oem tires.

037

RL is a quiet car. I would rather pick something up that handles well in the dry and the rain.

You can start with ContiExtreme's and finish with Bridgestone 960's.

Either one is a great tire, later being more performance oriented and first better in the snow.

fredren

i would recommend the bridgestone serenity's then michelin pilot sport A/S and A/S plus

037

I'm driving on A/S right now. They are pricey.

fredren

In oem 17'' size i think they are slightly cheaper than the 18''. i think $220. versus $243. and right now discount tire has a $70. rebate for any set of Michelin's purchased. They also have the Serenity's for $190 i believe and they have free shipping.

037

watch out for the A/S on close out, I got mine for $165 shipped in 245/45/18 on tirerack

ventura

thanks guys for the info, much appriciated

Chas2

This is just a sample of one, and in a totally different size 225/50-16. The Conti Extreme Contact All Season Tires were the WORST tires I have ever owned, by a long shot. I could not wait to get rid of them. When new, they were noticeably slower in turn in, cornering and just felt slow overall when compared to Dunlop SP5000s. They were noisy, but not tremendously so. Ride was smooth and compliant. When new, in torrential rains, they were very stable. By 10000 miles, these things were so noisy it was hard to believe they were the same tire. Ride was rougher, but because the tread was worn, they did turn in faster and seemed to have higher cornering limits. In the wet, they had gotten noticeably worse, and light snow, very slippery, which is contrary to what I would have expected from the tread design.

Just a sample of one, in a different size...

037

read reviews on TireRack, see how each stacks up when used on RL.

Overall the reviews put them top 5.

Chas2

I do not disagree with you there. That is why I bought the Continentals, actually, I was also very attracted by the low price, in the $80s at the time, and the tire was probably in the top 3 survey results then.

I think price has everything to do with tire sales, and that the larger the slice of the pie, the greater the tendency is to have better reviews. When I first filled out my survey on the Contis, the result came out around 8+, and I really did not think they were 8's in the experience I had with them, more like 5-6...so I know I skewed the survey up, if only infinitesimally.

Over time, I have noticed that some inexpensive tires have done very well in the survey, noticeably in the Avons, when they first come out. The Avons have now dropped to like 13. I now put more weight on the track tests that Tire Rack performs, rather than the surveys and tire reviews by individual consumers, not that I don't read them, I take them with a grain of salt.

Maybe I got a bad batch of tires. Since Audi/VW, Mercedes, even Honda use Continentals as OEM (granted, not UHPAS tires), they can't be all bad. But my bad experience has put me off of Continentals.

Just my

037

Chas, price is a factor in customer satisfaction and definitely drives the reviews up. An important factor is how many miles are reported by users. More miles means more reviews, which can flatten out the best and worst ratings.

You would actually have to read the reviews to see details such as excessive road noise.

Research, research, and more research.

rlerman

I have the bridgestone Serenity tires. I've had them on for a little over 1,000 miles so not a lot of history, but I will say that they are way better than the OEM. The ride is quieter and smoother. I've driven them in the snow and rain and have had no issues. Performance in tight cornering has been very good. I think on these boards, the preference seems to be between the Mich A/S, serenity and the versado's. Another factor worth considering is how easy it might be to get a replacement tire if one blows out. The A/S are being discontinued from what I've read here and the versado's are harder to find. Bridgestone is much more widely available.