Upgraded to Acura Navi 4.31
#1
Upgraded to Acura Navi 4.31
I'm not sure if this is unique to me but after upgrading to the latest Acura Navi disk all address book entries (home etc...) were gone. Has anyone else upgraded and noticed the same behavior? This is very frustrating to me as I literlly spent an hour and a half a week before manually entering all my contacts!
Mike
Mike
#6
Originally Posted by vp911
For the upgrade you order the DVD and put it in the dvd drive in your trunk and it will automatically upgrade.
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#8
Originally Posted by ishanb
There are directions in the manual. It's very simple. Open the panel, the DVD will eject, put the new DVD in, close the panel.
#9
Thanks again for the information. Just to double clarify. I can order the new DVD upgrade and have it delivered to my home and consult my owner's manual to simply eject the old one and put in the new one without any fancy mechanical work whatsoever? The system will recognize the upgrade without me having to do anything? I just don't want to "mess anything up."
#10
Originally Posted by Dr. E in TN
Thanks again for the information. Just to double clarify. I can order the new DVD upgrade and have it delivered to my home and consult my owner's manual to simply eject the old one and put in the new one without any fancy mechanical work whatsoever? The system will recognize the upgrade without me having to do anything? I just don't want to "mess anything up."
Exactly. You can't possibly have problems with this. It is the exact same as putting in a DVD into your dvd player to watch a movie.
#12
Originally Posted by Dr. E in TN
Thanks again for the information. Just to double clarify. I can order the new DVD upgrade and have it delivered to my home and consult my owner's manual to simply eject the old one and put in the new one without any fancy mechanical work whatsoever? The system will recognize the upgrade without me having to do anything? I just don't want to "mess anything up."
The DVD comes with step-by-step instructions for handling the DVD, removing the old one, and upgrading. Just follow each step carefully and you can't go wrong!
#14
Originally Posted by gizmowizard
The DVD comes with step-by-step instructions for handling the DVD, removing the old one, and upgrading. Just follow each step carefully and you can't go wrong!
#15
Do I have 4.31?
The Alpine site indicates that free flowing traffic on 4.31 shows as green bars, however I loaded the 4.31 NAV disc and I am still seeing blue lines. That was the way I was going to determine that the new version loaded OK and now I'm wondering if it did. Does anyone have this same problem and does anyone know of any other way to determine if the disc 'loaded' properly?
#16
You can check the version that is loaded in the navi boot software - I will go out to the car tonight or in the morning to find the exact steps to get to the diagnostic menu (unless somebody else chimes in before I get back) - and you can check the version.
#17
Originally Posted by vp911
You can check the version that is loaded in the navi boot software - I will go out to the car tonight or in the morning to find the exact steps to get to the diagnostic menu (unless somebody else chimes in before I get back) - and you can check the version.
#18
(I am pulling this information out of the service manual) To get to the diagnostic menu you have to hold down the Menu + Map + Cancel buttons simultaneously. After a few seconds a diagnostic menu will show up. There should be an option for the version number. When you get that, compare it to what is on the DVD (Not sure if they will match or not). Also post it here, and I will get my version number (I still have the original disc) then we can tell if yours was updated to the newest version or not.
Also, just a warning - when you are in the diagnostic mode, you do not want to touch anything. The service manual specifically states to the Acura technicians "Donwload: Do not touch, unless instructed by the factory."
Also, just a warning - when you are in the diagnostic mode, you do not want to touch anything. The service manual specifically states to the Acura technicians "Donwload: Do not touch, unless instructed by the factory."
#19
Before you go to a dealer to have them figure it out, there are things you can do to try to have it load the new navi dvd. You can disconnect the battery for an extended period of time (or just pull the fuses to the navi and radio) so then the system completely resets and is forced to download the new software. You would need to re-enter you navi and radio codes when doing this.
#20
Originally Posted by vp911
(I am pulling this information out of the service manual) To get to the diagnostic menu you have to hold down the Menu + Map + Cancel buttons simultaneously. After a few seconds a diagnostic menu will show up. There should be an option for the version number. When you get that, compare it to what is on the DVD (Not sure if they will match or not). Also post it here, and I will get my version number (I still have the original disc) then we can tell if yours was updated to the newest version or not.
Also, just a warning - when you are in the diagnostic mode, you do not want to touch anything. The service manual specifically states to the Acura technicians "Donwload: Do not touch, unless instructed by the factory."
Also, just a warning - when you are in the diagnostic mode, you do not want to touch anything. The service manual specifically states to the Acura technicians "Donwload: Do not touch, unless instructed by the factory."
Program Flash - 1.10.00.SC.BNKA
Program Disk -
IPL 0.231.000
APL 0.310.122
DBOOT 0.241.122
System uCom 0.910.000
Model SJAA
I just checked again and I'm still seeing blue traffic flows (I happen to look at I87 near the Tappen Zee Bridge). I know when I remove the disc it shows a message on the screen until I load it again, so it must recognize the new 4.31 disc, but since Alpine states that free flowing traffic is now green, I'm just not sure if there is more to this than simply removing the old disc and inserting the new one.
#21
Originally Posted by vp911
Before you go to a dealer to have them figure it out, there are things you can do to try to have it load the new navi dvd. You can disconnect the battery for an extended period of time (or just pull the fuses to the navi and radio) so then the system completely resets and is forced to download the new software. You would need to re-enter you navi and radio codes when doing this.
#25
Sorry about the delay - I felt kinda lazy and didn't want to go out in the cold 20 degrees
Anyways here is the info from my nav system:
Program flash: 1.10.00SC.BNKA
Disc: 1.10.0000
IPL: 0.231.000
APL: 0.251.122
Dboot: 0.241.122
sys ucom: 0.980.000
When you posted your information earlier - you didn't say what disc version you had. ? I point this out because that will be the most important infomration to compare to.
Anyways here is the info from my nav system:
Program flash: 1.10.00SC.BNKA
Disc: 1.10.0000
IPL: 0.231.000
APL: 0.251.122
Dboot: 0.241.122
sys ucom: 0.980.000
When you posted your information earlier - you didn't say what disc version you had. ? I point this out because that will be the most important infomration to compare to.
#27
Originally Posted by vp911
Sorry about the delay - I felt kinda lazy and didn't want to go out in the cold 20 degrees
Anyways here is the info from my nav system:
Program flash: 1.10.00SC.BNKA
Disc: 1.10.0000
IPL: 0.231.000
APL: 0.251.122
Dboot: 0.241.122
sys ucom: 0.980.000
When you posted your information earlier - you didn't say what disc version you had. ? I point this out because that will be the most important infomration to compare to.
Anyways here is the info from my nav system:
Program flash: 1.10.00SC.BNKA
Disc: 1.10.0000
IPL: 0.231.000
APL: 0.251.122
Dboot: 0.241.122
sys ucom: 0.980.000
When you posted your information earlier - you didn't say what disc version you had. ? I point this out because that will be the most important infomration to compare to.
#28
Originally Posted by Peter_L
Thanks for checking. There's definately a difference, but I'm not sure if it's due to something not 'loading' or something completely different. I had replaced the 4.13B version with the 4.31A (newest) version. I simply opened the DVD unit, unloaded 4.13B, and then inserted 4.31A and closed the DVD unit.
I would definately try pulling the fuses - there are a couple which you need to pull and I will get the fuse numbers for you
#29
Originally Posted by vp911
When you closed the DVD drive, did the navi screen say anything like loading new software do not shut off car? I don't remember exactly - but I *think* the TSX and TL said that when updating to new software.
I would definately try pulling the fuses - there are a couple which you need to pull and I will get the fuse numbers for you
I would definately try pulling the fuses - there are a couple which you need to pull and I will get the fuse numbers for you
Thanks for all of your help, though!!
#30
No problem Peter. The fuses you need to pull are (and of course, do this when the car is off - turn on after you pull the fuses): No 32 (10Amp) and No 7 (10Amp). - both of those are the drivers side fuse box.
This is a pretty safe way to try to resolve it without going to the dealer (which they generally don't know anything anyways)
Not sure why it didn't tell you that it was updating. I wonder if other people's system told them that it was updating or not.
This is a pretty safe way to try to resolve it without going to the dealer (which they generally don't know anything anyways)
Not sure why it didn't tell you that it was updating. I wonder if other people's system told them that it was updating or not.
#31
Originally Posted by vp911
No problem Peter. The fuses you need to pull are (and of course, do this when the car is off - turn on after you pull the fuses): No 32 (10Amp) and No 7 (10Amp). - both of those are the drivers side fuse box.
This is a pretty safe way to try to resolve it without going to the dealer (which they generally don't know anything anyways)
Not sure why it didn't tell you that it was updating. I wonder if other people's system told them that it was updating or not.
This is a pretty safe way to try to resolve it without going to the dealer (which they generally don't know anything anyways)
Not sure why it didn't tell you that it was updating. I wonder if other people's system told them that it was updating or not.
It's interesting that so many of us feel the same way about the dealers. It's a sad state of affairs when the dealers know so little about their own vehicles!!
#32
Go to a lexus dealer and they will treat you like a king when you are in for service. They are just that damn good. Any problems, they won't let it go until they resolve it. At least that has been my experience with our local lexus dealer. There is a reason I will be getting my mother a new RX when her lease expires next year. The RX330 is looking like a great choice. 24-48 hour notice for appointments and they will give you a loaner. Give them a few extra days notice and they will do picup/drop off service to work, home, etc. When Acura gets to this level of service - I bet a lot of lexus sales will be stolen.
#33
After I got my RL last November, a new disc was sent to me for free sometime early this year. I remember that when I installed the new disc the instructions indicated it was going to load new software and not to touch the unit while it was updating. I also recall seeing a message on the Nav screen that showed new software was being installed.
#34
Originally Posted by Gator5000e
After I got my RL last November, a new disc was sent to me for free sometime early this year. I remember that when I installed the new disc the instructions indicated it was going to load new software and not to touch the unit while it was updating. I also recall seeing a message on the Nav screen that showed new software was being installed.
I am currently working with ACS to try to determine if something is wrong. As of yesterday, I was told that if you enter a route, free flowing traffic should be shown in blue but if you are just 'searching' for traffic or driving without entering a route, the free flow traffic shown appear green. In my case, free flow traffic with the 4.31A disc shows as blue in both cases. So I still don't know if you need the '06v RL for the green or if something else is wrong. ACS asked me for the software version from the setup screen; maybe that has something to do with the issue. Mine is showing as 1.10.00 with a date of 20050428. I'll see what they say once I get that info to them later today.
#37
Originally Posted by kgd
My understanding is that the new version has a menu command for the "display traffic list" vs. the old version only had this as a voice command. That may be a way to tell the difference.
Thanks. I'll try that. ACS is also looking into this for me. They are as perplexed as I am at this point, but they are guessing that I might have what they believe to be an early run of the version that may actually be missing some of the features. The good news is that ACS is being very helpful at this point. Thanks again for the suggestion.
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