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Old 02-25-2004, 09:09 AM
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Traction Bars

Why has no one built a traction bar for our car? We obviously need it. Comptech gave us 40-50 more whp via a s/c but no way to put it to the ground. You guys are always talking about 0-60, and 1/4 's this is the one product that would do the most benefit, minus slicks. I just find it strange that we have s/c, turbo mods, fuel management, all which increase our power. Yet the car has problems getting that power to the ground in stock form. Sorry for the rant guys....Just my thoughts on the matter.
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traction bars are designed to prevent axle wrap.

the typical ingredients for axle wrap are a live axle, leaf springs, and lots of torque.

since the cl-s has none of these things, traction bars aren't likely to help much...
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There are traction bars for FWD that get rid of wheel hop. Not one for the CL though.
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I'll be installing these on my TL this weekend. Gotta keep that front end down.
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Re: Traction Bars

Originally posted by Ultimac
Why has no one built a traction bar for our car? We obviously need it. Comptech gave us 40-50 more whp via a s/c but no way to put it to the ground. You guys are always talking about 0-60, and 1/4 's this is the one product that would do the most benefit, minus slicks. I just find it strange that we have s/c, turbo mods, fuel management, all which increase our power. Yet the car has problems getting that power to the ground in stock form. Sorry for the rant guys....Just my thoughts on the matter.
One project at a time, but this is on the agenda.
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Originally posted by ChadT
There are traction bars for FWD that get rid of wheel hop. Not one for the CL though.

traction bars?


or radius arms?


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Yea, I’ll buy a set of those.
I keep popping wheelies when I start out too aggressively in REVERSE !!!
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Originally posted by tankmonkey
traction bars are designed to prevent axle wrap.
There are Traction Bars or rather torque arms, etc. for FWD applications. It is meant control wheel hop:

Here is one for the GTP:

Torque Arm
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Thread resurection time!

Did anyone ever get around to making these? My teggy friends were telling me about traction bars meant to prevent wheel hop and I was curious to see if there were every any made for the CL/TL. This is the only thread I found and didn't find anything on a quick google search.
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doesn't replacing our motor mounts with poly ones or whatev innovative mounts makes do a lot to get rid of wheel hop?
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Originally Posted by underst8
doesn't replacing our motor mounts with poly ones or whatev innovative mounts makes do a lot to get rid of wheel hop?
NO!!!!
Old 11-27-2007, 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by cl8trr
NO!!!!
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i could really use some traction bars actually. wheelhop owns me.
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1.9 60' on street tires
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pretty damn impressive,
i still dont know how u achieve that, i know the auto are forgiving but Gosh.........
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This wud be very helpful, it seems some already mk this for hondas.

Very good read.

http://www.full-race.com/articles/traction_bars.pdf
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1.9 60' on street tires
Impressive.

Since I have never heard about traction bars before and since I haven't read much into how they work, would those help improve your 60' times even more?
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^fuck yah they would.
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Traction bars are what got Ed Bergenholtz a sub 10 sec 1/4 in a CRX (I believe he was the first to do it).

The theory behind it isn't to prevent the car from popping a wheelie, it's to jam the front tires to the ground for launch purposes. If your wheels are forced down, they are less likely to spin leading to better ability to put 500+ hp to the wheels of a front drive car.
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Originally Posted by sinfulj32
^fuck yah they would.
that would be scary ... 1.8 would almost translate to a 12.9 pass all else being equal
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With the SHO we had reducers that allowed owner to use Pontiac GTP torque arms. Makes it cheap to buy the reducers and then goto the junk yard and pull the rest of the parts off a junked car.
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Originally Posted by typeR
that would be scary ... 1.8 would almost translate to a 12.9 pass all else being equal
that would be plain sick.

but anyways for the original question... no one makes anything close that would help? besides the torque dampeners, i would like to see some thing else
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Originally Posted by black label
Traction bars are what got Ed Bergenholtz a sub 10 sec 1/4 in a CRX (I believe he was the first to do it).

The theory behind it isn't to prevent the car from popping a wheelie, it's to jam the front tires to the ground for launch purposes. If your wheels are forced down, they are less likely to spin leading to better ability to put 500+ hp to the wheels of a front drive car.
i dont believe thats what we're talking about.
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Originally Posted by sinfulj32
i dont believe thats what we're talking about.
That's what I'm seeing in NSXNEXT's post
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that was before we used red text.
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theres confusion on here of wheelie bars and traction bars. the original poster is talking about traction bars. i believe they preload the suspension by bolting in between the chassis and the lower control arms.
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OK which is which, in Christian Rado's Integra he used a modified wheelie bar in his 8.91 at 159.85 mph. 1/4 mile run . wow
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man no one is talking about wheelie bars...
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Originally Posted by sinfulj32
man no one is talking about wheelie bars...


I definitely don't want to drive down the street with those . Now Traction Bars is a different story.
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finally, now that were on the second page and we've established that we're not talking about wheelie bars....

has anyone ever had or made traction bars for the CL??
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Originally Posted by sinfulj32
finally, now that were on the second page and we've established that we're not talking about wheelie bars....

has anyone ever had or made traction bars for the CL??
Not that I saw when I looked...maybe P2R could make something? Maybe one of our vendors?
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