nspec's 01 CL-S thread
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Just picked up rsx seats!
Things going in this car very soon:
Rsx seats
Tein SS-P coilovers with edfc
03 side mirrors
3.6L swap
RL calipers
Navi swap
Lipkit
Already have everything, just need to find time to put it all in
Things going in this car very soon:
Rsx seats
Tein SS-P coilovers with edfc
03 side mirrors
3.6L swap
RL calipers
Navi swap
Lipkit
Already have everything, just need to find time to put it all in
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i took the CL rails and seperated the brackets already
took 2 hours to figure out how to remove the rails from the RSX seats. I still dont know if I did it the right way, but they came out finally.
Funny thing is, no body at Honda knew how to separate them, its like as if the rails were never supposed to be separated. On the CL its just two bolts holding them.
I've dropped the seats off at an upholstery shop with a friend. he'll make a couple of repairs and then they should be like brand new. should get them back in about two days. then its off to welding.
took 2 hours to figure out how to remove the rails from the RSX seats. I still dont know if I did it the right way, but they came out finally.
Funny thing is, no body at Honda knew how to separate them, its like as if the rails were never supposed to be separated. On the CL its just two bolts holding them.
I've dropped the seats off at an upholstery shop with a friend. he'll make a couple of repairs and then they should be like brand new. should get them back in about two days. then its off to welding.
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and for nspec, use a seperate shielding gas (argon normally), and not that flux-cored bullshit of a wire, it leaves splatters, and just looks like shit welds in general cause of it
as far as taking apart the seat rails, they normally come as an assembly, and are put on as an assembly, so nobody at the dealer will have taken them apart actually, just bolt on the new ones, and call it good (maybe slide them back and forth to get to all the bolts though)
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as far as taking apart the seat rails, they normally come as an assembly, and are put on as an assembly, so nobody at the dealer will have taken them apart actually, just bolt on the new ones, and call it good (maybe slide them back and forth to get to all the bolts though)
Also i just got done removing the brackets from RSX rails. major pain in the ass
took like an hour just to the passenger seat rails. i'll do the driver side in the morning
Last edited by nspec_ya4; 07-03-2010 at 12:31 AM.
#190
bolt on the new what? rails/brackets? u cant. they have to be welded on. I dont know if there are other ways to put these seats in our car, other than the way i'm doing it.
Also i just got done removing the brackets from RSX rails. major pain in the ass
took like an hour just to the passenger seat rails. i'll do the driver side in the morning
Also i just got done removing the brackets from RSX rails. major pain in the ass
took like an hour just to the passenger seat rails. i'll do the driver side in the morning
as far as stock seats go, no welding is neccesary, just a bolt-on affair
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so
RSX: The whole assembly has to be replaced (according to the dealer and it looks easier to do so too.
CLs: The rails do bolt off (the reason why is because these rails have powered moving parts inside and if something happens, if they get stuck or break, the rails can bolt off and the parts can be changed, this will keep the cost low on fixing them.
havent even started yet.
i was able to cut the time down by using a heavy duty grinder with a 4" disk.
#195
they dont bolt on rails. they have to remove the whole assembly (in the RSX atleast) and replace that.
so
RSX: The whole assembly has to be replaced (according to the dealer and it looks easier to do so too.
CLs: The rails do bolt off (the reason why is because these rails have powered moving parts inside and if something happens, if they get stuck or break, the rails can bolt off and the parts can be changed, this will keep the cost low on fixing them.
I spent two hours trying to figure out how to take those RSX rails apart and I honestly dont think any body else can figure that out, because I found the way accidentally. These rails aren't meant to be taken apart because they're pressed on together by a press.
havent even started yet.
the brackets are put together with some thick ass rivets and some welds. There aren't any bolts holding them. Thats why its a pain in the ass to take them off. You have to grind the rivets off and each rivet literally takes like 10 minutes. there are 3 rivets in each rail and 4 rails per seat = 2 hrs.
i was able to cut the time down by using a heavy duty grinder with a 4" disk.
so
RSX: The whole assembly has to be replaced (according to the dealer and it looks easier to do so too.
CLs: The rails do bolt off (the reason why is because these rails have powered moving parts inside and if something happens, if they get stuck or break, the rails can bolt off and the parts can be changed, this will keep the cost low on fixing them.
I spent two hours trying to figure out how to take those RSX rails apart and I honestly dont think any body else can figure that out, because I found the way accidentally. These rails aren't meant to be taken apart because they're pressed on together by a press.
havent even started yet.
the brackets are put together with some thick ass rivets and some welds. There aren't any bolts holding them. Thats why its a pain in the ass to take them off. You have to grind the rivets off and each rivet literally takes like 10 minutes. there are 3 rivets in each rail and 4 rails per seat = 2 hrs.
i was able to cut the time down by using a heavy duty grinder with a 4" disk.
then as shown in the parts diagram, only comes as a WHOLE assembly
even the Cl comes as an assembly too, just smaller ones instead (or maybe not, and you HAVE to also buy the motors too, if you just want the rails themselves; i don't see a seperate number for them)
#196
good luck on the seats. I am gonna have to put my seat project on hold as my car will have to go back to the bodyshop and get work/resprayed 2nd time this year now . I have a nice fabricator that will help me with the seat install/welding etc when the time comes.
#197
the brackets are put together with some thick ass rivets and some welds. There aren't any bolts holding them. Thats why its a pain in the ass to take them off. You have to grind the rivets off and each rivet literally takes like 10 minutes. there are 3 rivets in each rail and 4 rails per seat = 2 hrs.
i was able to cut the time down by using a heavy duty grinder with a 4" disk.
i was able to cut the time down by using a heavy duty grinder with a 4" disk.
BTW, I take a drill bit that is about the same size as the head of the rivet and just drill the top off. Takes about 30 seconds. Thats how I chop motorcycles exhausts.
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#198
x2, even ours are kinda bolted to the pan itself, and not like the rsx one where you have to pull all the foam and such off, to transfer it to the "new" rails
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oh and drilling will not work on these. unless you have a press drill, then it might work.
part of the reason i was saying that they are not meant to normally come apart, and you replace it as an assembly (but yeah on ours you can do each rail seperate, where RSX has to be both )
then as shown in the parts diagram, only comes as a WHOLE assembly
even the Cl comes as an assembly too, just smaller ones instead (or maybe not, and you HAVE to also buy the motors too, if you just want the rails themselves; i don't see a seperate number for them)
then as shown in the parts diagram, only comes as a WHOLE assembly
even the Cl comes as an assembly too, just smaller ones instead (or maybe not, and you HAVE to also buy the motors too, if you just want the rails themselves; i don't see a seperate number for them)
look at the two bottom bolts on #16. when you take those off, that releases the bottom rail from that mechanism. and then you can slide the rail out.
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the reason why is because these are some thick ass rivets. They're pressed on with a heavy duty press i think. if you get a chance take a look at it. I guess the reason why they're so thick is because it becomes a safety issue because those rivets are the only things holding the whole seat to the bracket and floor.
oh and drilling will not work on these. unless you have a press drill, then it might work.
Did you ever get a chance to take a picture of the rails?
look at #16 & 17. Those parts go in between the rails, in order to take those off, the rails have to be taken apart. thats why the rails are bolted on together in our cars. The RSX seats dont have that so they just pressed all the rails together.
look at the two bottom bolts on #16. when you take those off, that releases the bottom rail from that mechanism. and then you can slide the rail out.
oh and drilling will not work on these. unless you have a press drill, then it might work.
Did you ever get a chance to take a picture of the rails?
look at #16 & 17. Those parts go in between the rails, in order to take those off, the rails have to be taken apart. thats why the rails are bolted on together in our cars. The RSX seats dont have that so they just pressed all the rails together.
look at the two bottom bolts on #16. when you take those off, that releases the bottom rail from that mechanism. and then you can slide the rail out.