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Old 08-18-2010 | 07:47 AM
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That sucks. i decided not to mod my car anymore bc there is always something wrong going on. I have to fix all motor mounts and change the brakes
Old 08-18-2010 | 07:55 AM
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But those are wear and tear items. On any car ur gonna need to change them. Civic has diff problems bc he's doing things that no one has or has done yet.
Old 08-18-2010 | 08:45 AM
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But those are wear and tear items. On any car ur gonna need to change them. Civic has diff problems bc he's doing things that no one has or has done yet.
True but the more u mod the car the more wear and tear items go wrong. As lomg as my cl is my dd i wont mod it
Anymore. I see how hard civic is trying to get everything he can get out of j series. Im proud of him but its not reliable
Old 08-18-2010 | 08:51 AM
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Bc stock parts arnt ment to handle what we do to our cars. The weakest links always will break, that'swhen u beef them up or replace them with something better. Its an addiction. Ull never be done modding
Old 08-18-2010 | 11:13 AM
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True but the more u mod the car the more wear and tear items go wrong. As lomg as my cl is my dd i wont mod it
Anymore. I see how hard civic is trying to get everything he can get out of j series. Im proud of him but its not reliable
The engine is reliable. Ive got nearly 20k miles on it. Its the other items that go along with it. The 80MM TB is the first on a CL, I knew going into it that there would be issues that need to be addressed as every other car that got the 80MM TB was drive by wire.

Other then that, its normal wear items. It just always seems to happen when I decide to start saving more money and not work on the car. So thats why I started modding again

But the clutch really is pissing me off. I thought that the other guys that had issues with this clutch didnt break them in properly. And I thought that because I was breaking in a motor at the same time I wouldnt have an issue. But over the past 1k miles or so the clutch has been acting funny. Its definitely lasted longer then the others that ran this clutch setup, but its still about 80k miles short of what I was expecting to get out of it. Once it stops raining and dries up a bit Im going to do a pull and see how bad it is. Even if there is the slightest slip Im calling CM and bitching them out. I know the others that ran this setup got CM to replace it, but that was after 3k miles on it. I have nearly 20k. I hope theres some good will from them.
Old 08-18-2010 | 11:21 AM
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Damn, hate to hear about the clutch. U got stage 2 or 3? Kinda worried about getting a cm kit now
Old 08-18-2010 | 11:25 AM
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Stage 3.
Old 08-18-2010 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by StreetKA
True but the more u mod the car the more wear and tear items go wrong. As lomg as my cl is my dd i wont mod it
Anymore. I see how hard civic is trying to get everything he can get out of j series. Im proud of him but its not reliable
If you want reliability then just do bolt-ons. There is alot that can be done without doing internal engine/custom engine work.

This is why I am questioning building the motor, and if I do anything I will most likely just swap in a ct s/c.
Old 08-18-2010 | 11:32 AM
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damn civic, sorry to hear about all your issues.
Old 08-18-2010 | 11:33 AM
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Its honestly not that bad. If I could do it all over again I probably would do the same thing. I have no regrets on the build.
Old 08-18-2010 | 01:42 PM
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Except the driving back and forth getting your work done.
Didn't you get caught in a snow storm on one of your trips for hours.
Old 08-18-2010 | 01:48 PM
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Yea, picking the car up. A 2.5 hour drive took 10 hours. Fun times. That was the second time I took a nap on I95.

But I love driving so the distance doesnt bother me.
Old 08-20-2010 | 03:45 PM
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I know this is late to ask civicdrivr ..... but when you dynoed your old and current setup did you dyno with your stock rims or with your aftermarket rims at that time?
Old 08-20-2010 | 04:44 PM
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^ He was asking what wheels he was on when he dyno'ed.

As far as the clutch issue, I'm not sure if I have this correct but is Stage 3 the strongest? As in for primarily track use? More around-town driving than racing might be the case if what I said is correct. If not,
Old 08-20-2010 | 05:49 PM
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no there is a stage 4 by clutch masters as well that is meant for mainly track use. here is the description on excellerates store for the stage 3

Segmented Kevlar Steel Back System, 110% over stock holding capacity.
The FX300 System uses the Power Plus I Pressure Plate with the Steel Back Segmented Kevlar disc. This clutch is designed for the ultimate street enthusiast or weekend racer running a normally aspirated car equipped with cylinder head work and/or hotter cam(s), or with medium-boost turbo or super-charger, or up to 100hp NO2. The FX300 features only slightly increased pedal pressure (overstock components), long life disc and smooth engagement.
Old 08-20-2010 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Nersh7
Segmented Kevlar Steel Back System, 110% over stock holding capacity.
The FX300 System uses the Power Plus I Pressure Plate with the Steel Back Segmented Kevlar disc. This clutch is designed for the ultimate street enthusiast or weekend racer running a normally aspirated car equipped with cylinder head work and/or hotter cam(s), or with medium-boost turbo or super-charger, or up to 100hp NO2. The FX300 features only slightly increased pedal pressure (overstock components), long life disc and smooth engagement.
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im wondering how would the rajca's clutch setup hold up with your motor

does anyone got picture of clutch dampner ? i want to remove it

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Old 08-20-2010 | 10:19 PM
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i got the bushings... now im going to remove dampner... then check valve... but now i got some weird problems after i did seafoam on my car... i think it might be imrc.


this should work right ?


03-07 Accord 2.4 Techna-Fit Stainless Steel Clutch Line

http://www.corsportusa.com/store/cat...oducts_id=8295

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Old 08-20-2010 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Aftermarket wheels each time. The first dyno was on my Legends I believe and the second was with the Works.



281/257 IIRC. I still havent made it back to run again since the intake/exhaust work.



Stage 4 is the highest. The Stage 1 is not much stronger then stock and at the time I planned to go boosted. The stage 3 that I have is meant for street cars that have been heavily breathed on. The weak link is the disc, which if I had known when I ordered, I would have had them give me another disc. Im not sure what the difference is but one of the people running that clutch got a new, different disc and it was holding up fine.





I havent driven the car today. I hurt my back so I wasnt going anywhere. Yesterday it seemed to hold fine

Overall, my car is very inconsistent. I wish AEM would release the EMS for us so I can inject some consistency into the tune.

Oh yea!! Weird noises are coming from the front end again Whenever I pull into my driveway there is an odd cracking/knocking noise. Ive got new sway bar end links and sway bar bushings and Ive also got new lower control arms and inner tie rod ends. So once I get those in everything in the front suspension would have been replaced in the past 5k miles.

And Im thinking about having my struts modded and getting a set of Ground Control sleeves. The car is too high.

Ill probably get around to working on the carpc finally. Ive had the parts here for almost a month but once I put the stock radio back in there was really no motivation to tear it apart again. But now Im starting to miss that little bit of bump in the trunk so Im itching to get it all together. I just need to find my Windows XP disc. Its somewhere....

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I dont have one, but if youre standing at the front of the car looking at the engine bay, look at the right strut tower and then look down. You should see a circular black object with some lines going to it, one of them being rubber.

Unbolt all of the lines from the dampener and then connect the rubber line coming from the transmission to the hard line coming from the master cylinder on the frame rail. You can reuse the dampener bracket to hold everything in place.

I suggest picking up an 03-07 Accord SS clutch line to use instead of the stock rubber line coming off the tranny.

Also, dont even think about touching the bolts unless you have line wrenches:



For anyone with a 6MT, this should be your first mod IMO. The second is the check valve in the slave cylinder and the third is aluminum bushings for the shift cables.
what's that ( i did not even bother ordering one for my conversion)
Old 08-20-2010 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by StreetKA
i got the bushings... now im going to remove dampner... then check valve... but now i got some weird problems after i did seafoam on my car... i think it might be imrc.


this should work right ?


03-07 Accord 2.4 Techna-Fit Stainless Steel Clutch Line

http://www.corsportusa.com/store/cat...oducts_id=8295
Im not sure if the 4 cylinder would be the correct length. You want one from the V6. The place I got mine from no longer sells them. And for some reason I remember them specifying that its for a 2003-06 model.

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Old 08-21-2010 | 09:48 AM
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call that company and ask how long the hose it. if its a little longer than stock that it will work. i didnt use line wrenches and everything went good. but line wrenches would def help if u cant get it lose with regular wrenches
Old 08-21-2010 | 01:02 PM
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the steel clutch line i bought says it is specifically for the 03 CLS6, why buy for the accord? Part number is ACC-002CL.
Old 08-21-2010 | 02:38 PM
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website where u got the line from?
Old 08-21-2010 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rajca
website where u got the line from?

http://www.techna-fit.com/clutch.html

or

http://www.corsportusa.com/store/cat...oducts_id=8297

they have it listed as HNC-015
Old 08-21-2010 | 04:24 PM
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call that company and ask how long the hose it. if its a little longer than stock that it will work. i didnt use line wrenches and everything went good. but line wrenches would def help if u cant get it lose with regular wrenches
Id much rather play it safe. Those 10mm nuts are very soft.

Originally Posted by brian6speed
the steel clutch line i bought says it is specifically for the 03 CLS6, why buy for the accord? Part number is ACC-002CL.
Back when I got mine I couldnt find a SS clutch line for the CL.
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What's the benefit for ss clutch line?

Nevermind. I just read on corsport website.

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Old 08-21-2010 | 06:12 PM
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firmer clutch pedal feel?
Old 08-21-2010 | 06:42 PM
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Yep. I definitely felt a difference when I did everything.
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just ordered
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Id much rather play it safe. Those 10mm nuts are very soft.



Back when I got mine I couldnt find a SS clutch line for the CL.
a good set of regular wrenches will also help, but yes kinda hard to beat line wrenches though (especially higher quality ones too )
Old 08-21-2010 | 09:19 PM
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a good set of regular wrenches will also help, but yes kinda hard to beat line wrenches though (especially higher quality ones too )
My Tractor Supply Co specials do the job well. If its power or air tools though, then I go for quality.
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My Tractor Supply Co specials do the job well. If its power or air tools though, then I go for quality.
SNAP-ON FTW
Old 08-22-2010 | 12:56 AM
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Money in my pocket FTMFW.

Snap-on is overpriced for what I do. I dont need thousands of dollars worth of tools. Thats why I love Harbor Freight and Tractor Supply.
Old 08-23-2010 | 10:16 AM
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Keep in mind, everyone's opinions on tools have nothing to do with this thread. On topic please
Old 08-26-2010 | 07:47 PM
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Im really pissed at myself.

As I was driving to work this morning, I wanted to take a picture of the odometer. It was a monumental achievement IMO. And I missed it. I wanted to get a pic of 123,456 miles. Noticed it at 123,460 miles. FTMFL.

In other news, 20k+ on the motor and still pulling strong. I think Im around 123,6xx now.
Old 08-26-2010 | 07:59 PM
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20k on your build already ?
I've only put 15k on mine in 2 1/2 years.
Ok then christopher columbus get your exploring on.
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i did in two years 39k since i have CL
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received the ss clutch line. just wish i can take the car out and see if i see a difference.
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theirs a cop on every block over here. its ridiculous. waste of money imo
Old 08-28-2010 | 01:44 PM
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Lol, I forgot the red text.
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