yes i read the FAQ, clarification needed on keyless entry remotes...

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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Kabayo
Thanks Megatron :-)

I have been doing a lot of searching and reading since I made my earlier post.

Since the #1 or #2 was long ago worn off on my fob, I simply set the seat in my car at forward position and programmed it to position #2, then at my regular position, which I programmed as position #1. After setting my fob to control the seat/mirrors presets, I determined that my fob was a #1 by observing what the seat did after I unlocked the car and opened the door.

I ordered a used #2 fob on Ebay for $22.

My next problem is:

I got only one key with the car, so I ordered a new blank transponder key on Ebay for $9, and a new blank valet key from Acura Carland for $16.

Once I get them, I need to know how to program them after I get them cut.

Does anyone have a link to the key programming instructions?

Thanks
You can program the fobs on your own, but you cannot program keys on your own. Programming new keys into the car immobilizer requires a Honda HDS tool and codes from a dealer or a locksmith with access to this equipment. There is no way around that unless you know someone with access to those things.
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Megatron
You can program the fobs on your own, but you cannot program keys on your own. Programming new keys into the car immobilizer requires a Honda HDS tool and codes from a dealer or a locksmith with access to this equipment. There is no way around that unless you know someone with access to those things.
What do you think about this info in this thread?

https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-1999-2003-98/programming-2002-tl-s-key-601809/

Is it applicable to my 03 CL?
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Kabayo
What do you think about this info in this thread?

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=601809

Is it applicable to my 03 CL?
OMFG!
I just read that thread. What a joke! The OP must have gotten a kick out of all those people who actually tried it!!!

Even the directions for programming the fob (which you can do on your own) is all wrong! And like I said before, you cannot program a new key into the immobilizer without the HDS.

If you read some of the comments you will see that some people were able to get their keys copied and programmed at a hardware store. That is a secondary method to get extra keys, but I don't consider it the proper way to get genuine keys for your car. That way involves CLONING an existing key by copying the transponder code from an original key to a clone key. Thus when it's all done, you have two keys that have the same transponder code. As far as the car is concerned, they are the same key, so either will work.

The ACTUAL proper way to get a genuine key made for the car is to program the new key into the car's ECU using the HDS tool. Every genuine Acura key is hard-coded with a unique transponder code (no two are the same) and when you program it to the car, you are telling the car to accept that code. Thus, when you are done with the normal 2 master keys and 1 valet key, the car will read that it has 3 keys programmed to it. The clone method will just be 1 key as far as the car is concerned.

I hope that clears things up. That thread is a joke. It won't work on the TL or the CL or any other Acura no matter what year!
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Old Jul 17, 2013 | 04:05 PM
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OK, I understand the difference between a cloned key, and a unique key which is registered to the vehicle.

But in practice, what is the advantage if having unique keys over cloned keys, and is that advantage worth the possibly high price a dealer will charge, compared to a locksmith or hardware store?
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Kabayo
OK, I understand the difference between a cloned key, and a unique key which is registered to the vehicle.

But in practice, what is the advantage if having unique keys over cloned keys, and is that advantage worth the possibly high price a dealer will charge, compared to a locksmith or hardware store?
I guess in practice there isn't any advantage aside from having it not look like a genuine Acura key that originally came with the car. Clone blanks are either aftermarket keys or if they are genuine Acura keys, they are stamped T5 on them. I know they used to have these cloneable blanks at the dealer, but not sure if they have them any more since all the keys since around 2004+ have been made non-cloneable.

So in your case, unless the keys you ordered are specifically cloneable keys stamped T5, they can not be cloned to. If you want to use those keys, you would need to have them programmed in.

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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 01:39 AM
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Well, I ordered one aftermarket black key, and one genuine gray valet key. They should be here by Friday. I guess I'm going to find out :-)
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Old Jul 18, 2013 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Kabayo
Well, I ordered one aftermarket black key, and one genuine gray valet key. They should be here by Friday. I guess I'm going to find out :-)
The genuine valet key will definitely not be a cloneable T5 key, so since you'll have to pay to have them program that, you might as well have the other key programmed as well. They will need all of your keys when they reprogram with the HDS anyways.

Good luck!
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