Why doesn't IceBox ingest water?

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Old 10-18-2005, 05:15 PM
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Why doesn't IceBox ingest water?

I've read that the Icebox won't suck in water the way other CAIs will. How far from the ground is the intake tube? What makes it different?
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Originally Posted by mt6forlife
I've read that the Icebox won't suck in water the way other CAIs will. How far from the ground is the intake tube? What makes it different?
The main difference is that with the regular CAI, the filter is at the end of a tube and is the only intake area for air. This is usually situated pretty low to the ground if your car is dropped.

With the Icebox, the filter sits in a chamber that is about 6 to 8 inches above where a regular CAI will be. There is a tube leading down, but before water gets sucked in, that entire chamber has to be essentially flooded.
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Originally Posted by mt6forlife
I've read that the Icebox won't suck in water the way other CAIs will. How far from the ground is the intake tube? What makes it different?
The main difference is that with the regular CAI, the filter is at the end of a tube and is the only intake area for air. This is usually situated pretty low to the ground if your car is dropped.

With the Icebox, the filter sits in a chamber that is about 6 to 8 inches above where a regular CAI will be. There is a tube leading down, but before water gets sucked in, that entire chamber has to be essentially flooded.
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Originally Posted by RaviNJCLs
The main difference is that with the regular CAI, the filter is at the end of a tube and is the only intake area for air. This is usually situated pretty low to the ground if your car is dropped.

With the Icebox, the filter sits in a chamber that is about 6 to 8 inches above where a regular CAI will be. There is a tube leading down, but before water gets sucked in, that entire chamber has to be essentially flooded.
... and the car will proibably stall from lack of air before it fills up enough.
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^that's most likely to be the case^
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Does the airbox containing the filter have any way for air to enter other than the inlet tube? Anyone know how far off the ground that inlet is in a stock 03?
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The airbox should be sealed everywhere except the inlet
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Originally Posted by mt6forlife
Does the airbox containing the filter have any way for air to enter other than the inlet tube? Anyone know how far off the ground that inlet is in a stock 03?
I’ve helped install an Icebox in the past.
YES… There is a small rubber “flap” in the side of the box that will open if the inlet tube is blocked by water.
It’s small, maybe 1” in diameter, but it should be enough to break the vacuum.
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Originally Posted by Shawn S
I’ve helped install an Icebox in the past.
YES… There is a small rubber “flap” in the side of the box that will open if the inlet tube is blocked by water.
It’s small, maybe 1” in diameter, but it should be enough to break the vacuum.
x1... On the side of the Icebox, the side closest to the driver side fender, there is a small circular 1" rubber flap that will engage if water were to be ingested into the intake.
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this is the reason for a by-pass valve...esp if you live where it rains alot...i know in Houston you need one...
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Originally Posted by Shawn S
I’ve helped install an Icebox in the past.
YES… There is a small rubber “flap” in the side of the box that will open if the inlet tube is blocked by water.
It’s small, maybe 1” in diameter, but it should be enough to break the vacuum.
Good to know. And its before the filter, there's no chance of it breaking off and getting sucked in like the stories I've heard about AEM's bypass.
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whats the diffrence between a stock air box with the baffle removed and a k and n drop in air filter and a comptech cold air intake ? besides being getto ? whats the hp and torqe diffrence and sound between the two and would the stock air box idea be a good idea ? by the way i already have a intake but im just wondering
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Originally Posted by iisylentii
whats the diffrence between a stock air box with the baffle removed and a k and n drop in air filter and a comptech cold air intake ? besides being getto ? whats the hp and torqe diffrence and sound between the two and would the stock air box idea be a good idea ? by the way i already have a intake but im just wondering
I have this setup now, I really see no difference in how it works. The logic seems the same to me, I'm sure there are more gains with the Icebox(I did have 1 on the old car)
The sound did change slightly, but again the Icebox is quiet anyway.
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I've heard that the Bypass valve doesn't reall work all that well.
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Originally Posted by RaviNJCLs
I've heard that the Bypass valve doesn't reall work all that well.
It works…..That’s been proven by a video that’s been posted in the past.

The problem is it actually works TOO GOOD.
I’ve tested mine with smoke (when I had it installed).
Whenever you “blip” the throttle it opens up and lets hot air from under the hood in.
I took mine off and put a piece of rubber in its place.
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