Where do we go from CLS..(i.e. the next CLS killer) ????

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Old 05-13-2002, 11:49 PM
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Where do we go from CLS..(i.e. the next CLS killer) ????

Okay, CLS is the greatest bargain of mid-lux 2-door crusiers..

Where do we go from here... What is the next CLS killer...

Let us say $40k is the target price, 4-doors are also to be considered (acutally perfered)...

My options so far are:
Next 2004 S4.
Next 2004 TL-S
to be looked at:

New Volvos R editions... 300+HP AWD!
New Saabs if ever gets to M performance level

"Dream car":
2004 Audi RS6 :
Old 05-13-2002, 11:59 PM
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I'd go S4 all the way:P
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In line with CL pricing.....loaded obviously more, the G35 coupe with the 6spd, 18's, Brembos is going to be a smoking hot car- as we all know since its been discussed here alot.

New S4 sounds interesting, the S60R as well. Like the new 9-3 also.

Based on whats coming out, I would pass on the M3 for now.
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330ci

or get a wrx wagon..mod the hell out of it..
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Originally posted by WiLd~CL~TYPS-@SS
330ci

or get a wrx wagon..mod the hell out of it..

Ummm.......we can beat the 330ci in almost all areas as it is now....
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Ummm.......we can beat the 330ci in almost all areas as it is now....
we cant beat their handling ..that's for sure..

and a 330ci is much more quite ..less wind noises..
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Dunno it'll be a while before i buy something new. Who knows what will be out on the market circa 2005 Hopefully something fuel efficient and reliable I will probably end up buying a car just for the track. Of course i'll mod my daily driver but i don't think i'll spend the money on modding the daily driver later like i do with my CLS.
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Originally posted by WiLd~CL~TYPS-@SS


we cant beat their handling ..that's for sure..

and a 330ci is much more quite ..less wind noises..
w/ a good driver, 330 in stick can hang or beat the 5AT cl-s, the 6spd is a different matter tho...
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I fear the '04 S4 is going to be well over $40k ... Hell a loaded 3.0 Quattro is $38k.

The Volvos will be over $40k too.

In the $35-40k segment I think that the 350Z and G35 Coupe will more than hold their own until Honda shows up with either a uber-Accord coupe or a new CL-S.

Also Dodge comes out with the Charger in '04 ... RWD V8. Ford's Mustang on the new chassis should be out in '04 as an '05.
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I usually have a daily commuter (the TL) and a weeekend toy (the Porsche), so finding a balance is not much of a concern for me. We plan on replacing the TL sometime next year, although I'm tempted to wait until the 2004 TL debuts.

I'm not a fan of Audi/Volkswagen...too many problems. We had a '01 Audi Allroad 2.7T Quattro for seven months, it was horrible. Three alternators, overheating, abnormal oil consumption, odd odors in the cabin (NOT oil), etc. Worst car we've ever owned...and I pity the sucker who bought it. Otherwise, an S4 would be a consideration.

One car that nobody has made mention of here is the next Nissan Maxima, which I am trying to keep close tabs on. If the Accord has enough "balls", I may consider that as well. Time will tell. Whatever it is, I want a manual transmission next...I've been hesitant to modify the TL heavily because it's an automatic...it's just not right.
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I would take the current S4 over the upcoming redesigned one... easier to mod with factory turbo setup
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Originally posted by Cee eL eS


w/ a good driver, 330 in stick can hang or beat the 5AT cl-s, the 6spd is a different matter tho...
Naw, thats just you Al...cuz your car sucks...:P
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390 Hp supercharged mustang SVT 2004. i know what everone is gonna say, but i still like the car. only 35-40 g's.
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Naw, thats just you Al...cuz your car sucks...:P
damn...did u hear that dustin? i think it's your 2nd tranny going out **gasp**
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I'd take a new Pontiac GTO. Yeah it's a GM, but...LS1 V-8 with at least 300hp, rwd, 6 spd.
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Back it up: where's the DB Rating on the 330ci

CL-S is Darn Quite inside

Originally posted by WiLd~CL~TYPS-@SS


we cant beat their handling ..that's for sure..

and a 330ci is much more quite ..less wind noises..
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Originally posted by bnavarro
390 Hp supercharged mustang SVT 2004. i know what everone is gonna say, but i still like the car. only 35-40 g's.
Actually that Mustang is a 2003. Wonder what kind of Cobra they will come out with on the new chassis? SHould be pretty interesting.
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Originally posted by danny25
I'd take a new Pontiac GTO. Yeah it's a GM, but...LS1 V-8 with at least 300hp, rwd, 6 spd.

That is an intriguing possibility BUT I fear I'll be wishing I was
driving a G35 coupe next year! :sqnteek:
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yah, how 'bout that 2003 Infiniti G35 2DR Coupe around $30K (with 6 M/T, 18" wheels & 285HP -- i think)?
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I'll wait and see what Acura does with the CL-S. Even if they drop it, they'll have to replace it with something sporty with an edge. Maybe they will just keep the TL -S sedan and really move that up a notch.
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Originally posted by caddy
Back it up: where's the DB Rating on the 330ci

CL-S is Darn Quite inside

It's pretty damn loud inside (the 3-series) with the Sport package and the howling Continental tires on it. If my memory serves me correctly, the CL Type S is 67dBA at 70mph, and the 330Ci is about 70dBA.
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