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Old 10-29-2003, 08:10 AM
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Im definitely down for a plug and play unit... Group buy for $600 - $650 would be better...

Also if they could drop VTEC down to about 4k that would be good... Woud I really need a new map if I only have H/I....

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Originally posted by Mr
Also if they could drop VTEC down to about 4k that would be good... Woud I really need a new map if I only have H/I....

You guys are the best....
I'm interested in whether we need a different map for the header and icebox/CAI combo as well. I assume not since the exhaust at this point is more cosmetic and I suspect doesn't affect the a/f or timing. I could be wrong though since I know shit!

I'd be very interested in this mod as well especially if the torque gains are significant (hopefully 7% or more as well).
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I can probably ask if they would be will to drop the vtec engagement point for me. So, 4K sounds good to everyone? But honestly, our transition is quite smooth compare to 4 cyclinder Vtec cars. I'm not sure if it would really make that big of a difference.

I don't think my axel back exhaust really made that big of a difference, so I think this chip would be good for people who don't run exhaust system also.

As for torque number, as soon as I get the official dyno release numbers from Uni-Chip, I will post them here. I just wanted everyone to have the actual dyno sheet from the dyno so I ask Jack to send it to me anyway. Even without the torque curve.
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Originally posted by CLS2001_97124
I can probably ask if they would be will to drop the vtec engagement point for me. So, 4K sounds good to everyone? But honestly, our transition is quite smooth compare to 4 cyclinder Vtec cars. I'm not sure if it would really make that big of a difference.

I don't think my axel back exhaust really made that big of a difference, so I think this chip would be good for people who don't run exhaust system also.

As for torque number, as soon as I get the official dyno release numbers from Uni-Chip, I will post them here. I just wanted everyone to have the actual dyno sheet from the dyno so I ask Jack to send it to me anyway. Even without the torque curve.
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Originally posted by CLS2001_97124
So here it is....
That does look great and actually better than I expected... Thanks again for loaning your car!!

As for the TLS/CL-S5AT harnesses, they are the same. This is wonderfull for the non-blown CL/TL community; which is by far the majority. As for us SC guys; we'll have to see how the e-Manage works out. Obviously we may need to adjust for things like the intercooler, etc. so a manageable system is prefered. But the Unichip looks like the ticket for most people here.
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Originally posted by CLS2001_97124
So, 4K sounds good to everyone?
IMO, 4300 - 4500 would be about the lowest you would want to go. This would keep it on the hot lobe after a shift. Other than that, why do you need it to switch lobes sooner??
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No.. thank you for pointing everyone at the right direction. If you didn't start the thread, I would have never known that Uni-Chip US office is 10 minutes from where I live. :o

I think I might lend them my S2000 afterall. They seem to have the fuel problem under control. We'll see what happens, I'm waiting for my Aftercooler and bigger injectors.

Thanks again, Steve!
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Originally posted by CLS2001_97124
I think I might lend them my S2000 afterall. They seem to have the fuel problem under control. We'll see what happens, I'm waiting for my Aftercooler and bigger injectors.
Let me know if you do and how it works out. The more options for us all the better things will get...
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thanks for donating your car,

i'm down for this, if its 500 or less
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darrinb.. I sware you crack me up sometimes... If you think the gain is worth the money, why not just save some more and get it. When you limit yourself like this, you'll just end up hating yourself. j/k...

But seriously, I don't know if it will ever hit that price at all. You need to look at some of the pricings on their site for other cars. Trust me, short of comparing our cars to FI cars with the chip. Our overall percentage gain is well above average compare to other cars. Uni-Chips goal was to to gain between 5-9%. We got about 7%. You decide if it's worth the money.
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Originally posted by CLS2001_97124
If you think the gain is worth the money, why not just save some more and get it.
Or ask his parents for an allowance increase. :P
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Originally posted by scalbert
Or ask his parents for an allowance increase. :P
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You are the man and my hero! (along with allmotor, typeR, modaddict, and scalbert for all being at the forefront.) You guys are the Bomb!
I agree entreily...

IMO, 4300 - 4500 would be about the lowest you would want to go. This would keep it on the hot lobe after a shift. Other than that, why do you need it to switch lobes sooner??
And the voice of wisdom has arrived...I think this was my point, though I had no idea how to make it. I often find that in truly hot, humid conditions, the 1/2 shift falls short of the vtec point and that is the weakest link in the car. I don't seem to have as much of an issue at WOT between 2/3 shifts. Come to think of it, the 1/2 issue occurs most when making a right or left turn from a stop and getting on it...

Does loweing the vtec engagement really provide more power or is the noise screwing with me??? Senor scalbert, please learn me...
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Originally posted by CLS2001_97124
[B]Hey guys,
10. Last thing... Again, I know that my base line only shows about 200HP with HEADERS!!,B]
It's cool bro, mine did too.
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Originally posted by CLS2001_97124
darrinb.. I sware you crack me up sometimes... If you think the gain is worth the money, why not just save some more and get it. When you limit yourself like this, you'll just end up hating yourself. j/k...

But seriously, I don't know if it will ever hit that price at all. You need to look at some of the pricings on their site for other cars. Trust me, short of comparing our cars to FI cars with the chip. Our overall percentage gain is well above average compare to other cars. Uni-Chips goal was to to gain between 5-9%. We got about 7%. You decide if it's worth the money.
bro i gotta work a shit load of hours to make that money, everyone has diff incomes etc etc, but i have different things to save up for
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Originally posted by scalbert
Or ask his parents for an allowance increase. :P
i dont get allowance:P

oh and btw oh easy is the chip to install??
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Originally posted by darrinb
oh and btw oh easy is the chip to install??
just a few basic hand tools,... torch, hatchet, maybe some super glue,.......If you want, I'd be happy to install it for you


seriously though, it can't be hard at all, and I would help you out
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Brian, did you ask when they will have their dyno up and running?

i would be more than willing to let them dyno my car with the unichip so we could see gains w/ the UR pulley set and full cat back exhaust.

i would like to see what lowering the vtec engagement down to 4500 or so would do. even though i can gate shift now and never drop out of vtec on the 1-2, 2-3.







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I would be interested to see what the gains would be for my '03 CLS 6sp that already has CT intake/headers/b-pipe/exhaust installed. I'd love to get my car dyno'd and profiled with the Uni-Chip. Are they located at Sears Point Raceway?
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they are located in portland, oregon.
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Originally posted by mattg
they are located in portland, oregon.
Must be confusing this thread with another:

update on chip!!


Several months ago, I spoke with Allen at Opak Racing - (707)935-3999/(707) 584-9300 about installing the UNICHIP on my CLS 6 speed. They were located at Sears Point Raceway in Sonoma, CA. Are we now talking about a completely separate deal or are the two related?
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Originally posted by r10apple
Does loweing the vtec engagement really provide more power or is the noise screwing with me???
It most likely would up to a point. But at some point it would begin to lose power. Honda most likely put it a little higher than it needed to be to help fuel economy but it could be lowered a little and gain some power. But I don't think 4k or less would be beneficial; torque would most likely be lost at or near this point.

This is why I was going with 4300 - 4500 as it isn't too far from stock and wouldn't be switching over when accelerating from every light.
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Originally posted by cls6sp03
Are we now talking about a completely separate deal or are the two related?
Same product but now we are working directly with the manufacturer's US operations (Dastek) instead of through a dealer (Opak Racing).
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so when can I buy one of these chip dealies.
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Have any engine check errors occurred with the Uni-Chip? If so, how often and how easy were they to remove? Also, any undesirable side effects?
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I WANT THIS CHIP YESTERDAY, WHERE DO I SIGN UP TO BUY THIS THING, GROUP BUY WOULD BE NICE BUT I WANT IT NOW!
WOW, THE B PIPE AND NOW A CHIP, I'M IN HEAVEN!
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Any info on a 6 speed version?
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fuzzy, read from page 11 on.
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Any info on a 6 speed version?
We need some 6spd support up there
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steve, what's the story w/ spraying n2o and the chip?

would it be ideal to have an additional nitrous map?
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Originally posted by CLS2001_97124
Any time Matt. Well wait until the road is dry I guess. I sware, it feels like my car just shed like over 100 - 200lb... maybe now I can keep up with you.
hopefully it will be dry on saturday. we will do some testing.
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Originally posted by mattg
steve, what's the story w/ spraying n2o and the chip?

would it be ideal to have an additional nitrous map?
Not for fueling if the nitrous system is tuned properly. But backing off on timing may be beneficial in peace of mind or allowing larger jetting.
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do you think it would be ok to spray a 75 shot w/ the advanced timing settings?
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Originally posted by mattg
Brian, did you ask when they will have their dyno up and running?

i would be more than willing to let them dyno my car with the unichip so we could see gains w/ the UR pulley set and full cat back exhaust.

i would like to see what lowering the vtec engagement down to 4500 or so would do. even though i can gate shift now and never drop out of vtec on the 1-2, 2-3.

I'm not sure when it will be up and running, and I didn't really ask them because right now there's only like 2 guys working there, one does sales and the other does Tech stuff, so they are swamped right now (lots of toyotas).

At this point, with Pulley and Catback and current map, you will see a little more HP gain according to Tony and Jack. But as far as tuning, what they said is that, they pretty much tuned as much as possible for N/A, cause I asked them if they want me to bring my car back if I get the b-pipe or something. The only thing they are really interested now is manual, and S/C cars.

I will call them to see if Tony can lower my Vtec by 300 rpms and see what happens.
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One way to find out...

Seriously though, I am not sure how much they are advancing the timing and wouldn't be able to make a call. I suspect it would be fine but I would run it by Dastek just to get their input.
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can anyone explain to me how the chip works in a sentence or two?
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Originally posted by Beetroot
can anyone explain to me how the chip works in a sentence or two?
It intercepts and alters some of the signals to and from the ECU. This adds or subtracts the amount of fuel and/or ignition timing to give more power.
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Originally posted by cls6sp03
Have any engine check errors occurred with the Uni-Chip? If so, how often and how easy were they to remove? Also, any undesirable side effects?
Nope.. all system is clear of CELs.

Undersirable side effects?? hum...

I CANNOT KEEP MY TIRES FROM PEELING OUT!!

and now when I step on it from a roll, I notice even more torque steer when it down shifts into vtec....

I guess thats a good thing...
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thanks scalbert!
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