CLS2001_97124

Mod,

This could be done under the assumption that you know exactly what the wiring specs are on the UniChip?

Thanks.

ModAddict

Correct, If they sell you the chip, it'll have to include their wiring specs for you to hook it up. Once you have their specs, you need to know your ECU pinouts, then hard wire the two together, or use a straight thru harness and wire it to that, for P & P.

Jonesi

Hmmmmmmm... Schematics are fun.. I hope UniChip will setup a plug n play for us.

CLS2001_97124

That's a good point, I will check with them to see if they will include that. Because from what I understand, they sell the chips through the authorized dealers, which will then install it for the customers. I'm not sure if they actually sell it directly to the end-users. I'm still waiting to hear back from Darrinb, because he claims that he has one on the way. So if that is true, than I guess it will be possible for use to make our own harness.

ModAddict

If the authorized dealer, only sells it if they install it, I'd find another dealer. I doupt that it's Unichip's policy to provide only dealer installed products, but I guess that could be.

darrinb

whens the group buy

i think i found my self a christmas present

darrinb

i aint got nothin, what u talkin about

CLS2001_97124

Here is what you said in the Racing stories thread..

Sorry if I miss understood that.

CLS2001_97124

Gas Milage

So after about five gallon of gas. I got about 19 miles to the gallon. This is of course with very hard driving to test out the chip, and the 5 hard runs with Matt on Saturday. So I'd say if I was driving it normally without all Vtecing all the time. I can get well over 20 mpg easy.

But for you heavy right foot guys, expect to get about 17-19 mpg.

What do you guys thing?

Mr Hyde

What kind of mpg were you getting before the install? I sometimes get 19mpg now, I usually average 21 or so.

CLS2001_97124

Without running as hard as I did with this last week, I usually get about 280-300 miles per tank of gas (when the light come on).

darrinb

oh well i went soon like in the springish time

Jonesi

Sounds just a little below average.. Works for me.

darrinb

i think i get like 16mpg, i live in vtec

BRCLS

danm how long does it take to get a dyno back?

CLS2001_97124

Relax man... I mention before, the guys from UniChip is at SEMA this week. They told me to give them a call either this Friday or next Monday.

If you just want to see the tq curve, you can get a pretty good idea just from the HP numbers, if you do the calculation yourself.

But I will get their numbers when they return.

Chaptorial

This product sounds like its gonna be great. Must get more $$$

Red Rider

I live in denial

darrinb

the first step is admitting that you have a problem...

Red Rider

You're right !! So here's my confession :

Brothers and Sisters, i am a Torqueaholic Save me from myself !!

zigzagzig

i havent kept up with this thread, nor do i feel like skimming through all 17-18 pages; but im assuming this chip voids warranty?

Red Rider

I'm gonna say affirmative That's why we need P+P

MtBikR

RedRider, isn't the emanage the best route for a F.I. 5AT car? Scalbert, or anyone else correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the unichip would not benefit the s/c auto??

ModAddict

The one thing e-manage can do, that the unichip can't, is reduce the timing advance, which helps prevent detonation, and allows you to run more boost, safely.

darrinb

can the dealer ven see the chip

how would it void warranty

ModAddict

With a P&P harness, it will be obviouse if they happen to look under there, near the ECU connectors.

mattg

you mean without a p&p harness?

darrinb

i dont thiink my dealer would care

ModAddict

I meant if you left the P&P installed when you took it in. I think that's where Darrin was going with it.

CLS2001_97124

Mod,

Will the ability to run more fuel cure the problem of having to retard the timing to prevent detonation? Or is this two complete different issues?

Thanks for your help.

scalbert

We really don't need to add fuel as we are running rich as it is. We can probably back off on timing and fuel at the same time to get more power out of the system when boost is added.

The issues are interdependent as mentioned. But adding more fuel to an already rich motor just to suppress deto is undesirable. Backing off on timing and then tuning the fuel curve as needed is what we need with the blower.

scalbert

The reason the e-Manage may be better for the blown vehicles is that it can extend the pulse width to the injectors. The Unichip can only alter the MAP signal which in a boosted motor is irrelevant as it is clamped to the ECU. By dropping the fuel pressure and extending the pulse width with the e-Manage we can tune for the boosted motor. The Unichip only allows for additional injectors to be run adding fuel on a boosted motor.

Both systems will be able to retard timing if needed. But at this point it appears only the Unichip can advance timing which is what the NA guys want and need.

As shown in the other thread, the e-Manage may work out for us supercharged guys. The other nice part is that if you don't need to tune it yourself, it will probably be available for in PnP fashion for about $550.

CLS2001_97124

Thanks Steve. So based on what your statement, it probably isen't advantages to bring my supercharged S for them to tune? Because from the pass conversation with Jack and Tony, it sounds like their solution to F/I cars was more fuel by adding more injectors the unichip can control.

Can I fly you out to OR for you to tune the S, if I buy the E-Manage setup??

scalbert

Correct, they can add injectors and control them but can't do anything with the stock units. But then again, if you aren't doing anything further with the S2000 then there may be no need to add more fuel. They might just want to back off on timing and tune a little.

However, if more is in store for the S2000 then IMO, the e-Manage may be a better bet.

As for tuning, heheh, I could never get away from my girls for too long.

MtBikR

Is this the only difference? What about with a lower compression, would I still need to having timing pulled? (9.0:1) or should I look at the unichip?

CLS2001_97124

Oh definitely more to come...

Now that I got the clutch and flywheel upgraded. I'm ready for the Aftercooler and the higher boost pulley. Comptech told me that I'm the next person inline as soon as they build the next batch of AC's..

scalbert

Lowering the compression is always a good idea when running boost. However, it does require engine work, etc. and may not be necessary at the low boost levels we are running. Also, keep in mind; we are about at the limit with this blower. The stock compression is fine for what this blower is currently putting out and a little more if intercooled. Tuning and backing off on the ignition timing will just promote longevity and maybe a little more power not to mention allow for a little more boost.

IMO, lowering the compression is only needed if you want to go the turbo route and run over 10 PSI boost or more. But the MP62 Eaton blower is just too small to support anything over about 8 PSI on this 3.2L motor. Trying to get more out of it will cause it to turn too fast decreasing the life of it and the efficiency of the charge.

scalbert

With that being the case, the e-Manage will probably be a great choice for the S2000.

MtBikR

ahhh... I understand better now. Thanks Steve. I have been following your emanage thread intently. How differnent is my harness going to be than your 6 spd one? Is it possible (this might be an aside topic) to remove me VSA or permenantly disable it? Thanks

ModAddict

BTW, I got my best time with VSA on.