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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 09:06 AM
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UniChip Possibilities

As I previously mentioned, I went ahead and started the leg work on getting the UniChip application for our car. I called Dastek's new US operations phone number and spoke to Tony. He instructed me to email Jack which I have already.

In my discussions, Tony mentioned that they currently cannot control the ignition signals and it doesn't have to do with the individual coils aspect. Something occurs around 5k revs which cause an inability to control the ignition signal. Because the J32A2 is not available in South Africa, Dastek's headquarters, they have no way to do data acquisition and correct the unit for this phenomenon.

However, if we can have someone in the Portland Oregon area supply their car to them for testing that can hook up a scope and the guys in South Africa can look at the data remotely and determine the appropriate methods to solve our application.

So who in Portland can donate their car?? I don't know the specifics on what they will do but most likely nothing to alter the car; just hook up and collect data.

Now, I am curious how any other company would claim to be looking at this application when there is no way to get this unit to work and this is from the manufacturer of the unit??
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 09:17 AM
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Damn... the 5K jinx.... Interesting Steve... very interesting..

At first I thought you were going to ask someone to head to South Africa with their CL.... but Portland is not that bad..

paging all Oregon CL owners


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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by Smitty
At first I thought you were going to ask someone to head to South Africa with their CL....


Just crate her up and put it on a cargo ship. Shouldn't cost more than $5k, more than the price of a stand alone DFI with expert tuning.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 09:20 AM
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I could... or matt.. ..

Matt has a stronger CLS.. IMO. Let me know.. I'd be happy to do it for the cause.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 09:24 AM
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Give them a ring: 866.643.7400 and ask for Tony or Jack. Let me know what the details are.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 09:25 AM
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that something i think is why when you're low on oil you'll get fuel cut then isnt that about the vtec change over point? 4800K?
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 09:27 AM
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that something i think is why when you're low on oil you'll get fuel cut then isnt that about the vtec change over point? 4800K?


I would hope that you aren't reving it up if low on oil???

But the fuel cut is probably so that you can keep reving it.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 09:29 AM
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Along this same vein, I called Hondata again... and they said they will 'keep me informed'!
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 09:30 AM
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my fellow cl'ers, i will do whatever is necessary for the cause.



Brian, did you already call?
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by scalbert


I would hope that you aren't reving it up if low on oil???

But the fuel cut is probably so that you can keep reving it.
it happened after i got the new engine...i think they under filled it not concidering the extra oil the crank area holds ...i was 2 qts low and started getting fuel cut...it was acctually chrisK.(modmole) (xypher) that told me to check the oil...
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 09:33 AM
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By the way... is the Unichip capable of boost vs. timing/fuel control? i.e., can it handle larger injectors and timing-retard for a FI application? This will work well with the S/C'd folks.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by allmotor_2000
By the way... is the Unichip capable of boost vs. timing/fuel control? i.e., can it handle larger injectors and timing-retard for a FI application? This will work well with the S/C'd folks.
Yes it is...
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 09:39 AM
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Just call Tony.

Their Shop is right down the street from where I live.

I will go there this afternoon.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 09:41 AM
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They told me that they want to do it for all of the Honda ECU family.. so they are interested in my S2000 too.

Luckly, I can rotate my cars, because they might need it for more than a week. For data gathering, and sending info back to Africa for developing.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 09:41 AM
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thats awesome, cuz i couldn't go w/o my car for that long.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 09:43 AM
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Also, they did perfer manual, but I don't recall seeing any around our area that is on this board that has one.. except for Kalin.. who is in CA now..

But he thinks auto should work just fine, just easier if it was manual.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by mattg



thats awesome, cuz i couldn't go w/o my car for that long.
Matt you want to come in with me to get a second opinion?

He said he want to give me a tour. Btw, there Dyno is on the way. I guess they've just moved in there from Cali.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 09:58 AM
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Thanks guys..
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 10:48 AM
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Good job guys!!
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 10:58 AM
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I hope you guys can make it happen.
Great job.
I think the Accord V6ers tried this same route and never got it done though.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by CLS2001_97124
Matt you want to come in with me to get a second opinion?

He said he want to give me a tour. Btw, there Dyno is on the way. I guess they've just moved in there from Cali.
You guys can tell them that I'll be the first person to buy this if it works!!
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:00 AM
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SCALBERT,

I wish you all the luck and I too will be first in line for this if it happens.
I do have my doubts about this company though, your thread sounds frightenly familiar to a huge thread 1 year ago on v6accord, identical. We too provided a car for them from the Portland area and after months of BS back and forth and excuses because of the time differences between Africa and Oregon ( real good excuses ) they decided that it would be dropped because of the ignition issues and the lack of interest in the Accord and the CL community.
Again , good luck and I hope this works out for ALL of us, I just wanted to give you a little history.

Later - Andy
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:15 AM
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Good job guys

I guess Opak racing was
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:26 AM
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I wish you all the luck and I too will be first in line for this if it happens.
I it wasn't until recently that the manufacturer, Dastek, had their own US office. Before then everything went through The Racers Group. So maybe with direct factory involvement thing will hopefully be different.

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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by CLS2001_97124
Just call Tony.

Their Shop is right down the street from where I live.

I will go there this afternoon.


Let us know what they say and I'm glad I made the call...
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:27 AM
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You guys can tell them that I'll be the first person to buy this if it works!!
Uhm, 2nd, I'll be first...
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:51 AM
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Uhm, 2nd, I'll be first...
no... I will... j/k....

Seriously though, thank you scalbert for discovering this new lead on the chip. Since they are so close to where I live, I will be able to have good follow through with them.

I will report back later tonight once I have a chance to meet them in person, and check out their shop. I guess there is some paper work I have to go through before I hand over my car to them. We'll see.

I don't get any negative vibs from them.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 12:11 PM
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SCALBERT,

I wish you all the luck and I too will be first in line for this if it happens.
I do have my doubts about this company though, your thread sounds frightenly familiar to a huge thread 1 year ago on v6accord, identical. We too provided a car for them from the Portland area and after months of BS back and forth and excuses because of the time differences between Africa and Oregon ( real good excuses ) they decided that it would be dropped because of the ignition issues and the lack of interest in the Accord and the CL community.
Again , good luck and I hope this works out for ALL of us, I just wanted to give you a little history.

Later - Andy
I hear that... I didn't know it took place in OR also. I'm hoping now that it's an actual US office for UNIChip, they would take more effort in the R&D work. Tony, the tech guy said that they realize that the Honda family share the same type of ECU, therefore, if they can get it figured out this time, it should open up a huge market for themselves, beyond the scope of just Accords and CL/TLs. Plus, he wanted to line my S up for R&D also.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 12:31 PM
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Ahhh very cool...thanks for the lead Scalbert
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 01:10 PM
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Brian, what time are you going?
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 01:59 PM
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between 3:30 and 4:00 pm.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 02:01 PM
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good luck. report back later.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 02:07 PM
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Yeah do report back since Mattg and Zapata will need dyno numbers before they spend some money..
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 02:22 PM
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wtf you talkin' bout willis?
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 02:26 PM
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between 3:30 and 4:00 pm.
Also, do you have the shop manual you can leave with them just in case they need electrical diagram references??
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 03:39 PM
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you might want to do a search on the subaru forums about the Unichip. They really aren't the best solution IMO. check out nasioc.com and do a search on unichip problems. I personally had one on my wrx, I had it tuned also. It never ran perfectly. There was stumbling and hesitation at particular throttle points. Why not take a look at the Greddy emanage.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 04:22 PM
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I was just looking at the emanage and wondering if anyone looked into it.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by blxmjx
you might want to do a search on the subaru forums about the Unichip. They really aren't the best solution IMO. check out nasioc.com and do a search on unichip problems. I personally had one on my wrx, I had it tuned also. It never ran perfectly. There was stumbling and hesitation at particular throttle points. Why not take a look at the Greddy emanage.
Just got back.. very nice guys. I'm in the process of typing something about the whole meeting. But I just want you guys to know that so far it's a go for R&D work.

It's funny mention the WRX, because this topic was actually brought up in the meeting with them. And they express certain concerns they've learned from trying to work with the WRX guys during the development phase of the chip. But more on that later if you guys need to know more.

Steve, while I'm trying to gather my thoughts on describing what took place. Could you either give me a call, or I can call you so we can talk directly over what took place at the meeting? I have some questions for you as far as how we think we should presue this project as a group. You are the Guru around here, and since brought this lead to us, I'd like to discuss it with you first.

I will PM you my number, but I can call you also, if you like.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by scalbert
Also, do you have the shop manual you can leave with them just in case they need electrical diagram references??
Sorry I don't have a shop manual for this car... Have one for the S2K though..
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 05:02 PM
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Sounds like this project is finally moving in a positive direction, you can be sure to add me to the list of potential buyers.
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