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Old 10-19-2003, 09:51 PM
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NA & interested!
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Keep in mind that this mod will not be cheap.. >$500.

Steve, have you had a chance to talk with the Uni-Chip guys again since you made your decision?
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Originally posted by jet-tek
NA & interested!
Interested in which works best and what the benefits and or gains would be.

Especially since I'm loosing interest in the UR pullies.

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Old 10-20-2003, 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by CLS2001_97124
Steve, have you had a chance to talk with the Uni-Chip guys again since you made your decision?
Not yet as there was no urgency. I haven't completely discounted the Unichip but it seems like the e-Manage may be better for us boost guys.
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For >$500, I would rather have an unit that I can change settings any time for future mods and maybe multiple profiles. After Steve gets the ECU harness made for both 6sp & 5at, I'm giving the e-manage a try on N/A.
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Originally posted by ronnie0738
For >$500, I would rather have an unit that I can change settings any time for future mods and maybe multiple profiles. After Steve gets the ECU harness made for both 6sp & 5at, I'm giving the e-manage a try on N/A.

I guess if all of us have the proper knowledge to "tune" a car, e-manage would be the answer, but since I don't, I need to consider the cost involved to get it tuned by others.

Btw, the UniChip can also store multiple maps, and it could be changed on the fly with a switch.

I think I will go ahead with letting them have the car if they still want to persue this development. Since I don't think as of now, according to Steve, the e-manage will not help the N/A cars much.
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Can the UniChip advance the timing? I know a lot of time is going to be spent tuning with the e-manage, but I think it's going to be fun

Good luck with the UniChip!
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This is all conceptual at this point but based on some solid data. But for the NA CL-S, both the e-Manage and Unichip will be able to control and tune the fuel curve as needed. In fact, they will both do this primarily through the same method.

The difference comes with ignition timing; the Unichip should be able to advance the timing.
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Originally posted by scalbert
This is all conceptual at this point but based on some solid data. But for the NA CL-S, both the e-Manage and Unichip will be able to control and tune the fuel curve as needed. In fact, they will both do this primarily through the same method.

The difference comes with ignition timing; the Unichip should be able to advance the timing.
raise eliminate fuel cut/rev limit? even if youre just guessing and change the vtec change over point?
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The guys at UniChip told me that the chip will have no problem of either raising or just flat out eliminate the rev limiter. Same with changing the Vtec change over point.
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Yes, I forgot to mention the VTEC engagement point; both will be able to control this.

As for the rev limiter, again conceptually, only the Unichip would have this abillity.
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great 500 it is !
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haha.. don't get your hopes up, I said at least $500. It all depends on how well it dyno's, and then how many people will be interested after that.
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I'd be interested in the unichip for sometime next spring. especially for the typical Headers and icebox/cai setup.
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Originally posted by 99%StockAV6
This link below has info for the non-6speed connectors. All but connector E.

http://www.v6performance.net/forums/...?threadid=4069

I think these are the part numbers for the 6speed.

1318612-1 125 Pin Connector Housing
353027-1 17 Pin Connector
353028-1 22 Pin Connector
353029-1 24 Pin Connector
353826-1 31 Pin Connector (it looks like you need two of these)
Opps, I was missing one of the part numbers...

125 Pin Connector Housing 1318612-1
31 Pin "A" Connector 1318682-6
24 Pin "B" Connector 353029-1
22 Pin "C" Connector 353028-1
17 Pin "D" Connector 353027-1
31 Pin "E" Connector 353826-1
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Originally posted by 99%StockAV6
Opps, I was missing one of the part numbers...

125 Pin Connector Housing 1318612-1
31 Pin "A" Connector 1318682-6
24 Pin "B" Connector 353029-1
22 Pin "C" Connector 353028-1
17 Pin "D" Connector 353027-1
31 Pin "E" Connector 353826-1
Thanks again...

Actually and to keep it simpler, we would just need one 31P "A" and the 24P "B" connector; all wires associated with this install are on one of those two. The remainder could stay plugged into the ECU. I would use the housing but maybe cut off the end I don't need to reduce size.
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How is the UniChip different in the way it controls/monitors ignition timing compared to the e-manage?
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Originally posted by ronnie0738
How is the UniChip different in the way it controls/monitors ignition timing compared to the e-manage?
The Unichip intercepts the crank position sensor signal which is an input to the ECU. The e-Manage intecepts the ignition coil output signals.
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I may be completed off base here, but it seems that we can potientally use the data collected from the UniChip (since it reads the CPS) and then use it on the e-manage to adjust the timing?
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great 500 it is !
although im hoping a GB will get us the unit for 5 .i really was making fun of that software commercial with the card board cut out of the sales man...."beautiful day?!" it's pooring rain..."so .... how much software do you wanna buy?" "500 it is !"
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Ahh.. yes, I know exactly what you're talking about.

"500 it is... Greeeeaaat."
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Interested NA member here...w/ the Uni-chip timing and fuel curve is adjustable...I know that...however can we our selves adjust and tune or do we have to purchase another software map. What we basically need is timing control and fuel control w/ V-tech and revlimited control as well...but something that WE can play w/ at the track or tune ourselves.
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Originally posted by Ant7701
Interested NA member here...w/ the Uni-chip timing and fuel curve is adjustable...I know that...however can we our selves adjust and tune or do we have to purchase another software map. What we basically need is timing control and fuel control w/ V-tech and revlimited control as well...but something that WE can play w/ at the track or tune ourselves.
From what I understand, the UniChip does have some kind of serial port for tuning. However, I'm not sure how much the software would be (if avilable). However, since they could store multiple maps and can be toggled on the fly, I'm sure we can have some kind of track only map, and then a daily driven map.

btw, I just dropped off my car, and I was suppose to hear back by Wednesday night.

I will keep everyone posted.
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awesome news Brian.
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Originally posted by scalbert
Do you have the Helms manaul?? If so, can you scan the pages for the ECU connectors?? I need to compare this to the 5AT CL-S just to be sure they are the same.
Are you looking for "PCM Inputs and Outputs At Connector A, B, C, & D"? It shows a line drawing of the connector at the top of the page, and the description for each terminal below it.
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Originally posted by ModAddict
Are you looking for "PCM Inputs and Outputs At Connector A, B, C, & D"? It shows a line drawing of the connector at the top of the page, and the description for each terminal below it.
Bingo!!!
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Originally posted by scalbert
Bingo!!!
Send to you via email to where, or post them here?
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It doesn't matter, if you want to email them:

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Man you guys need to have your own show on the Speed channel or that new guys channel that has Hot Rod TV on it.

I'd watch you guys mod our cars.

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I got the drawings from Brad and the TL-S has the same pin outs and connectors as the CL-S5AT for the needed connections. Now I just need to do new drawings and source these too.
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Steve, do I need to send you the injector and ignition harneses to forward to FROG?
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Not yet, I am waiting on hearing back from them and the best method. Plus, I need to make the drawing for the 5AT.
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Sounds good,...just let me know what else, or when, you need me to do anything.
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BTW, below are the schematics for the harness. It is incomplete as I am unsure who will wire this to the e-Manage harnesses.

24P



31P

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So the e-manage harnesses are at the bottom of both diagrams,.... the top diagram would be for the injector harness and the bottom one for the ignition harness.
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Not really, leads from the 24P ECU harness will have connections on the base e-Manage, the injection and ignition harnesses. The 31P ECU connector will only hook up to the remaining lines on the base e-Manage harness.

We will most likely be able to get the harness already connected to eliminate any potential error.
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Sounds like a winner.

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And here are the 5AT drawings:

25P



31P

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That was quick!

So if need be,....9 wires would be cut, and 9 could be tapped.



BTW,....this Helms is great! I told my wife I could do anything now! She jumped for joy, and said yippeeee,.......




yea right!


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