That's the problem, I don't know how I would go about doing that.

 

From Mike at AMM:

 

I'm fed up with you coming in here and bashing the UniChip.. Stay Out.. You haven't contributed one thing to any of the threads except for your negative comments..

 

See if you can get the maps and we'll figure it out from there..

 

In the instructions it does say that Map B adds more timing.

 

You have asked the same of others, myself included, to stay out if not contributing anything positive. Does it not works the other way??

 

Yes but I never felt the Map B was very practical. I mean having to run 100 octane just isn't something I plan on doing regularly. We'll see what happens.

 

I've been telling him that but I guess it's not getting through..

 

IMO, it is not bad to discuss and question. It just needs to works both ways!!!

 

I emailed AAM and asked to have the map sent to me.

 

The instructions do not say anything about running a higher octane. But, i know UniChip mentioned it to someone. It just says thst it may not work because some cars may be very sensitive to denotation.

 

When I dyoned with Map B the dyno graph was nearly identical to Map A. This was using 100 octane too.

 

Who knows? Maybe the ECU was cutting back on the timing when in map B.

 

Which would make Map B useless.

 

This is true.

That is probably why they say to use higher octane. To help reduce denotation so the ECU will not retard the timing, which will cause you to lose power.

I think your dyno proves this.

 

I had higher octane during my original dyno. The Map B was identical to the Map A when it came to results. Map B was still too lean and didn't make any additional power.

 

That is also true. Everything is pointing towards the lean conditions. Hopefully we can get enough data and UniChip will give us a quick re-flash.

 

scalbert -

Maybe you could give UniChip a call a discuss with them the tuning methid that they used to produce the results. Maybe they will tell you if they did it with timing, fuel, or a combination of the 2.

 

I work less than 5 miles from GRD. I called them and set up an appointment for a before and after Unichip dyno for Saturday afternoon on July 10th. I have been wanting to do a dyno on my '02 TLS for some time so now would be a good time.

They said they could also custom tune the Unichip if needed. Cost for the first hour is $150 and $100 for the second hour if needed. Will let you guys know the results.

 

Wow, you guys were definetly right about Jack.

Got off the phone with him a little while ago after a 20 minute conversation. I explained to him what I had been observing after using the chip for a week, my concerns, some of the weird things it was doing, and asked him my options. We discussed the possibility of a custom tune, although there are NO unichip shops in the area, infact the closest one is Altered Atmosphere in Maryland where steve got his done!

Pretty much what was decided is that I'll sit tight til the revised chip he sent out to one member can be tested, and if this chip works he will reflash my chip for free. This should take care of all lean conditions and any other concerns. He said of course I will get the most out of a custom tune but unless I am looking for max dyno numbers (which I'm not) then it will be enough of a tuning with the reflash just for having some fun on the street.

 

Just got an e-mail from Todd. They want my car for some dyno workouts on thursday with a friday pickup. I'm in. Still runnin' the stock intake though. Have to hooky a couple of 40 mile rides now. I should of checked the option box for the official Acura fold up trunk mounted mini-bike. Sieze ya.

 

you're a good man, BC.

 

He defintley stands behind his product and is more then willing to help us get this straightened out.. I'd wait til they get BC's car in for some dyno tuning to see what comes up.. Then I will go from there.. I want to see what his car does under same the same conditions as Matt and Brian.. We will get a better account then.. Otherwise we will go off of dyno sheets to have ours tweaked..

 

Some one lend this man an intake!!!!!! Also post ur mods that u do have.

 

i couldnt get a dyno appointment today, gonna go in tommorw but its gonna be like 90 degrees!!!!

 

Hey Ant. I've been waiting for an icebox to come up for sale on the black market. Fat chance. My car has the CT headers and suspension and rolls on 17 inch GT1's and 225 es100's.

 

U got a Type-S right BC??? I'm sure someone around the area can lend u an intake of some kind to get this tuning dyno done. Ask around.

 

just got back from the dyno

car is running way to lean, af ratio is 14.5 w/ chip, 12.5 w/o
car is actually detonating through vtec.

as far as gains though there really isnt anything, like 1 hp and about 5 ft pounds for only like 500 rpms

i put down 250whp w/ the unichip and 248 w/o it

i will post the graphs later i have to scan them....

 

250WHP!!!!!!!! dayum thats good for an auto!!!!!Post those graphs allready.

 

darrin, what are you running again?

 

Thanks for getting the dyno. This is just more data to share with UniChip about the A/F ration.

 

wow 250whp, impressive! Maybe I need a crank pulley

 

engine is running alot smoother now that the chip isnt in...

as smart as the people at uni-chip are wouldnt they know that a universal chip wont work, if i would of kept it in any longer my engine could of possible blown up

i'm gonna talk to jack on monday and if things dont work out imma tune it with the greddy e-man

 

No it would not have "blown up" Your ECU will detect the lean condition and retard timing accordingly to keep things safe, this is why you aren't getting gains. The ECU is cutting timing.

 

Sorry to hear that the chip doesn't work as advertised. Are you going to get a full refund if things don't work out after talking with Jack? On a positive note 248whp without the chip is great. I'd be happy with that from my 6 speed. What kind of dyno was it BTW and are those #'s SAE or STD?

 

I'm assuming you used a dynojet and although they have become the "standard" for dyno testing because of their "reliability" you have to look at these numbers for what they are. Dyno testing only give you an estimate of the power being produced. Now with Darrin's mods, 248 whp seems nuts! That would mean he is pushing over 300 crank horsepower. I'm not saying it is impossible, but the real thing to look at is the difference is stock vs UniChip dynos. It is very possible that Darrin could have his car tested at my dyno and run 25 whp less, or I could have my car tested on his dyno and run 25 whp more!

The factor that doesn't change (at least shouldn't change that greatly) from dyno to dyno is the A/F ratio. It seems as if Darrin's car is right around where mine was with the UniChip. You'll need to get that back around 13.0-13.5 to get it running better.

 

So, you are going to spend an even greater amount of money on something you won't be able to just get your money back and end up with about the same, if not less, gains.

 

It would be cheaper to get a custom tune on the UniChip man.

 

New email from Jack:

 

When I spoke with Jack on Friday he said to just hang tight til they can get the modified map tested; and if it works he'll offer anyone a reflash who is running lean. But I forget when he said it would be ready and tested, I think the beginning of this week .. has he mentioned this to anyone else?