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Old 03-06-2004 | 04:14 PM
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Turbocharged CL - Next Generation

We are getting close to the end of a 8-month project, so we thought of getting all the juicy details out on the Acura-CL.com forum.

Two of us (myself and bluecls6) have been doing a lot of research since last year into building the ultimate turbocharged kit for the CLS-6spd. We are assembling TWO 2003 6spds as follows:

Garrett GT35R (Ball-Bearing) Turbo
- Turbine: 0.82A/R, 68mm 84 Trim wheel
- Compressor: 0.70A/R, 82mm 56 Trim wheel
- Cost: $1400
Garrett High Efficienty Intercooler Core
- 8" x 16" x 3.5"
- Cost: $800
Tial/Garrett 38mm Wastegate
- 6.82psi spring
- Cost: $250 w/ flanges etc.
Tial/Garrett Blow-off Valve
- Cost: $250 w/ flanges etc.
Greddy E-Manage Engine Management System
- Cost: $500 w/ harness etc.
Comptech FPR
- Cost: $280
Techedge Wideband O2
- Cost: $350
RC Injectors (size TBD)
- Cost: $550
Walbro Fuel Pump
- Cost: $100
Electric Boost Guage (15psi)
- Cost: $185
Electric Fuel Pressure Guage (100psi)
- Cost: $210
Oil Feed/Return system (Earls)
- Cost: $150
Fuel Hoses/Fittings (Earls)
- Cost: $100
Intake Piping (2.5")
- Cost: $300 w/ clamps, couplers etc.
Turbo Manifold & Downpipe in Stainless Steel
- Cost: $1500
Misc Items (water-cooling etc.)
- Cost: $200

TOTAL: $6825.00 (Retail)

Goal is 400whp @ 6.5psi (or something close) very reliably and safely - nothing is being overlooked (as far as we know!). The kit should have the potential for 500whp @ 10psi - that is something that we'll attempt once everything is up and running.

Current Status:

Manifolds and IC end-tanks are being fabricated right now. We should have the E-manage wired in within the next two weeks (thanks to Scalbert). All other parts (except for the RC injectors) are in-house and we will hopefully have the cars running by mid-April for tuning.

Some pictures to wet the appetite:

Turbo: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gun...&.dnm=5ef6.jpg

A bunch of parts: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gun...&.dnm=eeae.jpg

E-Manage: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/gun...&.dnm=e50b.jpg

Stay tuned...
Old 03-06-2004 | 04:17 PM
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Old 03-06-2004 | 04:18 PM
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Old 03-06-2004 | 04:21 PM
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hell yes!!

I know of some places where you can get cheaper, better digital gauges. PM me.
Old 03-06-2004 | 04:22 PM
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We got better deals than I listed... those are all retail prices - thanks for the offer though!
Old 03-06-2004 | 04:27 PM
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better be more vids of those cars !!!
Old 03-06-2004 | 04:29 PM
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Awesome!
Old 03-06-2004 | 04:29 PM
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Holy shit. If that works, i might go that route once i get a replacement car as my daily driver.
Old 03-06-2004 | 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by Scrib
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Old 03-06-2004 | 04:42 PM
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Originally posted by Bulldog01
:phatyo: :bigclap: :buff:
My reply is the same as above but mulitplied by 10000000000!!!

Nice going guys...what made u decide to do this allmotor. I thought u were going back to stock when u were trying to sell the intake manifold??

Anyways...good luck man..IOhh..make one for an auto
Old 03-06-2004 | 04:48 PM
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omfg that is amazing but is it for 6 speed only and also will the prices lower?

MAke some vids man once you get it omg
Old 03-06-2004 | 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by Ant7701
My reply is the same as above but mulitplied by 10000000000!!!

Nice going guys...what made u decide to do this allmotor. I thought u were going back to stock when u were trying to sell the intake manifold??

Anyways...good luck man..IOhh..make one for an auto
I was going back to stock... but the itch would never let up!
Old 03-06-2004 | 04:54 PM
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omfg that is amazing but is it for 6 speed only and also will the prices lower?

MAke some vids man once you get it omg
Only 6spd. The price really will depend on the turbo - this is the absolute best turbo you can get for this application. If you don't get bigger injectors, E-manage, Wideband O2 monitoring etc., the price could go down. For this exact kit... the price is what it is. Now you know why Greddy sells the twin-turbo 350Z kit for nearly $7K!
Old 03-06-2004 | 04:57 PM
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I can see it coming...FIRST CL in the 9's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Actually low 12's high 11's...I don't know but way to go Allmotor! Keep us posted..
Old 03-06-2004 | 05:05 PM
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Originally posted by Ant7701
Anyways...good luck man..IOhh..make one for an auto
Old 03-06-2004 | 05:07 PM
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this could definetely change my mind about wanting to trade in my CL in the next few years....keep us posted on everything
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Where is BlueCLS6?
Old 03-06-2004 | 05:31 PM
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Good luck with your project, can't wait to see the finished product.
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allmotor,


how hard would it be 2 make this worl for the new 6spd TL?
Old 03-06-2004 | 06:10 PM
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awesome. can't wait to see the results.




so were you joking about the nsx motor?
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so were you joking about the nsx motor?
Yeah... that was a poor joke!
Old 03-06-2004 | 06:35 PM
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hmmm since the supercharger is discontinued this might be the way to go! Once i get a new job that is.
Old 03-06-2004 | 06:36 PM
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Ah so it has been revealed! Yes it has been a long process, and quite a few custom parts. Should turn out pretty nice considering we've been taking our sweet-ass time and not letting cost get in the way. We waited until now because there is actually something to show for it... 8 months ago we would have basically been crying wolf. I guess I can start posting pics now

Here is a work in pregress shot:
http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...31_15_full.jpg
Look what I did to my car while working on the custom intercooler fitting:
http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...31_17_full.jpg
Intercooler test fit:
http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...31_18_full.jpg
FMIC

p.s. The new TL has no room for a FMIC It's bumper has no opening...
Old 03-06-2004 | 06:40 PM
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The IC is significantly larger than the previous one I utilized - as you can see from the cardboard mock-up version.
Old 03-06-2004 | 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by kevin79925
hmmm since the supercharger is discontinued this might be the way to go!
Did you bother to read that thread? or just the thread title?
Old 03-06-2004 | 06:51 PM
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awesome......
Old 03-06-2004 | 07:08 PM
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Glad to hear that. Nothing quite like having options. I was disappointed you and your other partner didn't put the last kit into production. I'd be glad to take on 2nd job to get 500whp! Good luck!
Old 03-06-2004 | 07:09 PM
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I was wonder when the cat was going to be let out of the bag.

I'm looking forward to seeing this thing take shape.
Old 03-06-2004 | 07:14 PM
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p.s. The new TL has no room for a FMIC It's bumper has no opening... [/B]
why not try a top mounted intercooler like the wrx with a suttle hood scoop or a modified hood.?

just a thought.
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Originally posted by slyraskal
why not try a top mounted intercooler like the wrx with a suttle hood scoop or a modified hood.?

just a thought.
That involves body-work... although its a good idea for a liquid-air intercooler - similar to what Scalbert is working on; sans scoop!
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Awesome... Can't wait to see how it turns out. Best of luck!
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ugh this is awesome......wish i had the scratch fo it Can't wait to see it......again.
Old 03-06-2004 | 08:24 PM
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Damn, that is crazy sick. I wonder what it would do to our torque steer. Oh shit!
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are either of you doing any internal work? Or is that in the future?
Old 03-06-2004 | 09:11 PM
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That is badass. much props on that, cant wait to see the finished project.
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Originally posted by CLpower
are either of you doing any internal work? Or is that in the future?
Not yet... not for 400whp. We'll see how the motor handles 6.5psi and then go from there.
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You guys are my heros.

Can't wait to see it done!

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Originally posted by allmotor_2000
Not yet... not for 400whp. We'll see how the motor handles 6.5psi and then go from there.
Man you guys are sick....in a good way High compression for a turbo but I had a 5cyl S4 that ran 24psi reliably and had 9.8:1 compression. Very cool guys!!!!
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holy shit man, y dont u just get the 3.5 block in while your at it


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