Turbocharged CL - Next Generation
03-07-2004 | 09:21 AM
#44
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From: Austin, Texas
Awesome bro, can't wait to see the results. FYI, the first Turbo Altima is finishing up right now too (and what do you know? He's in California too! Albeit, Southern California):
http://www.nissantalk.com/forum/show...hreadid=143882
http://www.nissantalk.com/forum/show...hreadid=143882
03-07-2004 | 09:50 AM
#46
ex 6 Speed owner :(
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From: Huntington Beach, CA
Here are some more parts shots:
Wastegates:
http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...31_14_full.jpg
BOV's:
http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...31_13_full.jpg
My favorite little gauge:
http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...31_16_full.jpg
BOOST!
Wastegates:
http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...31_14_full.jpg
BOV's:
http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...31_13_full.jpg
My favorite little gauge:
http://images.cardomain.com/member_i...31_16_full.jpg
BOOST!
03-07-2004 | 10:25 AM
#48
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From: Woodstock, GA
Originally posted by allmotor_2000
although its a good idea for a liquid-air intercooler - similar to what Scalbert is working on; sans scoop!
although its a good idea for a liquid-air intercooler - similar to what Scalbert is working on; sans scoop!
03-07-2004 | 12:52 PM
#50
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From: So Cal
Originally posted by jet-tek
You Californians sure know how to spend money,
I'm jealous.
You Californians sure know how to spend money,
I'm jealous.
03-07-2004 | 05:22 PM
#51
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From: So Cal
Originally posted by Aquineas
Awesome bro, can't wait to see the results. FYI, the first Turbo Altima is finishing up right now too (and what do you know? He's in California too! Albeit, Southern California):
http://www.nissantalk.com/forum/show...hreadid=143882
Awesome bro, can't wait to see the results. FYI, the first Turbo Altima is finishing up right now too (and what do you know? He's in California too! Albeit, Southern California):
http://www.nissantalk.com/forum/show...hreadid=143882
03-07-2004 | 08:58 PM
#52
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From: Bay Area
AHHHHHH MAN!! I was hoping it was going to be a secret for a bit longer. DAMN! I would of liked it better if you surprised some guy on the street. Oh well. Maybe now that you two are done, bluecl6 can help me out with my car. Maybe I can check out your car when I come down to visit him in the next month or so.
I want my revenge!!
I want my revenge!!
03-07-2004 | 09:28 PM
#54
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From: Stoneham MA
good turbo choice...that thing will be awesome. I'm using a GT29R right now and I love it. I'm probably going to go to a GT28RS "disco potato" at some point. About as big as I want to go with a 1.8 liter. Garret GT is the way to go. Is the GT35 a twin scroll? One thing I don't get is the BOV? It's cheaper to get a bypass valve. And unless you can tune for it in emanage, won't you run a little rich from venting your metered air? Can you tune for it in emanage? It just seems like you sacrifice the best performance for that sound....which an intake will give you anyway with a bypass valve. And you lose that precious air when you could recirc it. Even the real hardcore DSM guys I've talked to use a BPV.
My suggestion if water injection...why not put in another couple hundred and add the safety of WI.
Also, what are you doing for boost control? Wastegate spring tension? An EBC is nice. I love my Greddy profec B first gen. I figure you can get away with some more boost with race fuel, so boost control from the cabin is always nice.
My suggestion if water injection...why not put in another couple hundred and add the safety of WI.
Also, what are you doing for boost control? Wastegate spring tension? An EBC is nice. I love my Greddy profec B first gen. I figure you can get away with some more boost with race fuel, so boost control from the cabin is always nice.
03-08-2004 | 12:03 AM
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From: So Cal
Originally posted by Ray Khan
good turbo choice...that thing will be awesome. I'm using a GT29R right now and I love it. I'm probably going to go to a GT28RS "disco potato" at some point. About as big as I want to go with a 1.8 liter. Garret GT is the way to go. Is the GT35 a twin scroll? One thing I don't get is the BOV? It's cheaper to get a bypass valve. And unless you can tune for it in emanage, won't you run a little rich from venting your metered air? Can you tune for it in emanage? It just seems like you sacrifice the best performance for that sound....which an intake will give you anyway with a bypass valve. And you lose that precious air when you could recirc it. Even the real hardcore DSM guys I've talked to use a BPV.
My suggestion if water injection...why not put in another couple hundred and add the safety of WI.
Also, what are you doing for boost control? Wastegate spring tension? An EBC is nice. I love my Greddy profec B first gen. I figure you can get away with some more boost with race fuel, so boost control from the cabin is always nice.
good turbo choice...that thing will be awesome. I'm using a GT29R right now and I love it. I'm probably going to go to a GT28RS "disco potato" at some point. About as big as I want to go with a 1.8 liter. Garret GT is the way to go. Is the GT35 a twin scroll? One thing I don't get is the BOV? It's cheaper to get a bypass valve. And unless you can tune for it in emanage, won't you run a little rich from venting your metered air? Can you tune for it in emanage? It just seems like you sacrifice the best performance for that sound....which an intake will give you anyway with a bypass valve. And you lose that precious air when you could recirc it. Even the real hardcore DSM guys I've talked to use a BPV.
My suggestion if water injection...why not put in another couple hundred and add the safety of WI.
Also, what are you doing for boost control? Wastegate spring tension? An EBC is nice. I love my Greddy profec B first gen. I figure you can get away with some more boost with race fuel, so boost control from the cabin is always nice.
The BOV - well, we arn't really looking to extract every ounce of potential - its also the 'cool' factor to an extent; a CL-S with a *psffft* turns heads!
Right now, its just the wastegate spring for boost-control - eventually (depends on how everything works out), we will get some type of boost controller - fuzzy logic ones by Greddy have some great features!!
Thanks for the input.
03-08-2004 | 07:56 AM
#59
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From: Stoneham MA
Originally posted by allmotor_2000
Yes, the turbo really is the crux of the setup - I underestimated the importance of sizing the turbo on my last venture in this terrority - there is a lot of power to be gained at modest boost levels.
The BOV - well, we arn't really looking to extract every ounce of potential - its also the 'cool' factor to an extent; a CL-S with a *psffft* turns heads!
Right now, its just the wastegate spring for boost-control - eventually (depends on how everything works out), we will get some type of boost controller - fuzzy logic ones by Greddy have some great features!!
Thanks for the input.
Yes, the turbo really is the crux of the setup - I underestimated the importance of sizing the turbo on my last venture in this terrority - there is a lot of power to be gained at modest boost levels.
The BOV - well, we arn't really looking to extract every ounce of potential - its also the 'cool' factor to an extent; a CL-S with a *psffft* turns heads!
Right now, its just the wastegate spring for boost-control - eventually (depends on how everything works out), we will get some type of boost controller - fuzzy logic ones by Greddy have some great features!!
Thanks for the input.
I don't even have a CLS and I'm excited to see this project.
03-08-2004 | 08:54 AM
#60
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From: New Orleans, LA,USA
Originally posted by allmotor_2000
The BOV - well, we arn't really looking to extract every ounce of potential - its also the 'cool' factor to an extent; a CL-S with a *psffft* turns heads!
The BOV - well, we arn't really looking to extract every ounce of potential - its also the 'cool' factor to an extent; a CL-S with a *psffft* turns heads!
Will you take credit cards
03-08-2004 | 10:10 AM
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From: So Cal
Originally posted by NOLACLS
Absofukenlutly!!!! Man this has really got my attention...I would love to have something like this!! So really tho...with a set up like this could you still run the CL to over 100k miles...or does it mess up the engine over time. I am a FI noob!
Will you take credit cards
Absofukenlutly!!!! Man this has really got my attention...I would love to have something like this!! So really tho...with a set up like this could you still run the CL to over 100k miles...or does it mess up the engine over time. I am a FI noob!
Will you take credit cards
03-08-2004 | 10:12 AM
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From: So Cal
Originally posted by JaDia4
how many hours do you anticipate the install to take?
how many hours do you anticipate the install to take?
The last time, when I took the turbocharger off and put the car back to stock, it took 8hrs - so figure 10-12hrs the other way around.
03-08-2004 | 10:15 AM
#66
Drifting
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From: New Orleans, LA,USA
Originally posted by allmotor_2000
With 6.5psi and the E-Manage, I don't see any problems whatsoever! I could see CV boots, brakes and other misc stuff going bad earlier, but not the motor itself!
With 6.5psi and the E-Manage, I don't see any problems whatsoever! I could see CV boots, brakes and other misc stuff going bad earlier, but not the motor itself!
So what about the CC's will that be an option?
03-08-2004 | 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by NOLACLS
Yeah I know things like the clutch would not hold up but I plan to upgrad to the CT unit when the stock goes and once the brakes go I will upgrad to some x drilled or slotted brakes. My main worrie was the motor and the tranny.
So what about the CC's will that be an option?
Yeah I know things like the clutch would not hold up but I plan to upgrad to the CT unit when the stock goes and once the brakes go I will upgrad to some x drilled or slotted brakes. My main worrie was the motor and the tranny.
So what about the CC's will that be an option?
03-08-2004 | 10:31 AM
#69
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From: New Orleans, LA,USA
Originally posted by allmotor_2000
I don't think we will build kits to sell! Although I could make you the manifold and you can do the rest...
I don't think we will build kits to sell! Although I could make you the manifold and you can do the rest...
Well I may in the future get you to get me the manifold and then I will go from there.
Good luck and take LOTS OF VIDs this time
03-10-2004 | 07:41 AM
#76
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From: Woodstock, GA
Originally posted by allmotor_2000
Scalbert is better suited, I wasn't born here
Scalbert is better suited, I wasn't born here
Not born here, huh, your name is bread'n'butter from the heartland of this country...
03-10-2004 | 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by scalbert
heheh, not me either, I am a terrible public speaker and lose my cool too easily.
Not born here, huh, your name is bread'n'butter from the heartland of this country...
heheh, not me either, I am a terrible public speaker and lose my cool too easily.
Not born here, huh, your name is bread'n'butter from the heartland of this country...
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