I do a LOT of driving...I own a Silver 2001 CLS-- the dealer told me they dont make synthetic oil for my car...I find this hard to believe...
I gave the car the first oil change at 4000 and now I have 7800 miles and I would like to add synthetic oil.
Is there an oil made that I can bring to Jiffy lube or wherever?
Is it ok to do put synthetic oil in the car right now with only 7800 miles?

 

That's bullshit. You can put synthetic oil in now. No problem. I recommend Mobil 1 5w30.

 

fun reading

Decide what's best for you

http://www.vtr.org/maintain/oil-overview.html


plenty of oil info here

http://www.seansa4page.com/resource/autotech.html

If you need Amsoil contact me I'll show you how to have it shipped to your door.

 

those are some great links-just added em to my bookmarks..

 

I'm with fred on this. They just don't want you to use synthic. Personally I either run regular or a "blend"(which is half regular half synthic) . mostly the reason why I use blend or regular is cause of cost. don't get me wrong synthic is AWESOME motor oil(i've ran it 1-2 times(each 3000 miles)) but where I get my oil changed at they want an extra 12 or 14 bucks extra for Mobil 1 synthic but I do spring for the extra 2 bucks to put in regular Mobil 1 vs Penz oil. matter of fact the dealer should encourage synthic use cause it's "more pure" oil. it protects the motor better and overall it's a better oil. I'll have to write that one down in my book of stupid comments from dealers as dealer discourages synthtic. I've even heard of dealers they're so happy with the customers running synthics(motor and everything) they give them a extra 10000 mile longer warrenty (NO CHARGE )
I'm also with fred on going with the Mobil 1 synthic. everyone I've talked to that used it for awhile(like 10-20 thousand miles) they say it's a good motor oil.

 

thanks for the replies...I am assuming I can go about 6000 miles on the mobil1 synthetic..correct? That is my whole reaosoning behind wanting synthetic to begin with..more time between changes...

 

I run 10k on Amsoil + Amsoil filter, Mobil1 is now mixed with petro oil by products to lower cost. It's no longer a true 100% syn. oil.

 

I just did my first oil change. I'm at 5500 Miles. I tried to get mobil 1 synthetic in 5W-20 just like the manual says, & couldn't find it. The normal shop I go to doesn't carry it, & I tried 3 auto stores, & they were all out. I wound up using regular mobil 5W-20 oil. They did have 5W-30, but I didn't know if I should use it. The owners manual, as well as the Acura service manual I have say to only use 5W-20.

 

Did you know that the 2001 CLS had the same engine (as the 2002 CLS) and my 2001 CLS service and owner's manuals recommends 5w-30 and not 5w-20!. The acura-tl forum members were the first to have "problems" finding a 5w-20 synthetic oil.

And, IMO, it is probably "safest" to just follow the manual to stay out of "trouble with Acura"... (And, I'll bet you can use 5w-20 or 5w-30 without problems.)

 

u can always bring your own syn oil to your dealer and have them to oil change by using your own oil..i always do that...and i have been using and only using mobil 1 5W~30W for almost 7 years....that is so nice....

 

Since the damn dealer STILL has not sent me my manual, how many quarts of Mobil 1 5x30 do I need to take with me to Jiffy Lube?

 

I switched to Mobile1 Synthetic 5w-30 at 4200 miles. Currently I'm at about 12,200 or so with my next oil changed scheduled for 16k. I'm changing it every 6k miles. My next oil change will be Redline rather then Mobil1. I will still be using the Mobil1 filter though. Oh and BTW, the engine takes 5 quarts of oil.....

Here's some interesting reading on the "new" Mobil1 ingredients (2nd one's real good)....

http://www.acura-tl.com/forum/showth...threadid=37993

http://www.acura-tl.com/forum/showth...threadid=37030

 

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http://www.acura-tl.com/forum/showth...threadid=37993

good thread but note no MSDS's for Redline???, which is what roadrage defends. If you need Amsoil contact me.

 

After reading all of the 'information' available for the various synthetics, I am still undecided.

There is only one way to tell which oil is best for an Acura: Oil Analysis. All engines are not the same. Hence, one oil is not the 'best' for all engines.

I currently have Mobil 1. After 7500 miles I will have an oil analysis performed. I will switch to Redline for 7500, have that analyzed, then maybe AMSOIL.

Read and believe all the 'information' (biased advetising) you want. Or do your own research. Check out the spreadsheet at maxima.org. Nice idea. There is some info on a 99 TL.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=100060


And the AMSOIL vendors, that is one beautiful marketing tactic (and just that).

 

Agreed, but now I find myself one of them. I can buy wholesale and pick it up myself. Sooo I get very good (maybe not the best) oil and filters.


Great test above but please remember to use the same Brand of filter. Also use the same lab if possible, I managed for a time a analitical lab for the a Aerospace Co. and results can very by using different methods. I found one CL-S owner in Miami who had Amsoil lab tested at 15k miles. It had very positive results. Redline tests will be very interesting when compared to Mobil1 and Amsoil. I'll donate the 5 qts Amsoil just let me know when and where. (I'm ready to put up or shut up)

Good luck keep us posted.

I don't think the below tests were biased but you never know.

http://www.unofficialbmw.com/all/misc/all_oilfaq.html

 

Uh... i know nothing about changing oil and the like, but my brother told me to use Castrol GTX for his car (im driving the CL-S while hes in Korea). Is this a good choice too? or should i change to what you guys are using. I apologize for my ignorance... thanks

 

i'm due up in a couple of weeks. first and last change i took to the dealer. this time around i'm gonna use redline with a k & n oil filter. i can get redline for less than $6 per quart.

 

Al Smith is local to me:
http://www.synlubes.com/
I will be interested to see what they have to say about different synthetic oils.

Test are not necessarily biased, they just seem to favor who does them. This is Redline's response to a ASTM D 4172 antiwear test by Amsoil:
http://kozmik.guelph.on.ca/gtdprojec...soil_S2000.pdf

It is for 20w50, which we don't use. And it was not in our cars. Plus, there is no date.

Posting data on NEW oil is nice. But how well does the oil maintain viscosity, flash, pour, etc. ? I figure the best way to find out is analyze used oil from our cars.

I have about 7 honda filters, so I plan using the one every change (7500 miles). I don't plan on adding any performance mods to the motor. I will be due for an airfilter change. (I'm willing to bet people with intakes would see more silica in their oil.)

The only negative is the analysis cost as much as the oil ($20-40?). Is it worth it, who knows.

 

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This is Redline's response to a ASTM D 4172 antiwear test by Amsoil:
http://kozmik.guelph.on.ca/gtdprojec...soil_S2000.pdf

It is for 20w50, which we don't use. And it was not in our cars. Plus, there is no date.

Posting data on NEW oil is nice. But how well does the oil maintain viscosity, flash, pour, etc. ? I figure the best way to find out is analyze used oil from our cars.


Great site from Redline, this the first published responce directly testing Amsoil (BUT)

The data here (site listed below) suggests 20w50 Redline tested better than Amsoil, why didn't Redline run this test with their street oil (not race) ? It was already a given that their race products were better. They picked a test that they new they would win.

http://www.unofficialbmw.com/all/misc/all_oilfaq.html

I agree, run 5w30 Redline Now. Then have the Mobil1 and Redline tested. Let me know When your sending it in and I'll send in my Amsoil for analysis. Next month I'll have a sample with 10k miles on it w/33k on the car. This will get more data faster. Might not be the same as one car but will speed the process up. You can then have your Amsoil oil analyzed for a Exact Test on one engine.

What (and address) of lab are you using. I'll send my oil there. I have a CAI with K/N, don't think it'll pollute the results to much.

 

I was thinking of
http://www.theoillab.com/
or
http://www.blackstone-labs.com
I have not looked at labs in depth. Is there much difference in labs? Any suggestions?

I have found some analysis data for Amsoil. Nothing for Redline. That is why I was going to run Redline first. From everything I read, I'm expecting better results from Amsoil.

I would like to run oil 12k, with a filter change at 6k. A little on the safe side. But, 2 changes a year for me. Does your 10k sample include a filter change?

The data here does not look current:
http://www.unofficialbmw.com/all/misc/all_oilfaq.html

Amsoil and Redline have different numbers at their sites.
http://www.amsoil.com/products/asl.html
http://www.redlineoil.com/redlineoil/mopds.pdf


This person is testing air filters. Has the right idea, just not enough data. 5k is also a little early to swap filters.
http://home.attbi.com/~nhparrot/ts/a...FilterTest.htm

 

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http://www.blackstone-labs.com


Use this lab, they send out free test sample kits.



Does your 10k sample include a filter change?

No filter is changed at 10k miles, I use a Amsoil filter. I drive 2500/month mostly highway.

Amsoil is good for 25k with 12k filter change so I "Think" I'm on the safe side by changing everything at 10k.