Stone Headers: Please do NOT install before reading this post.
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From: Honolulu, Hawaii
Originally posted by ModAddict
Steve, get those dirty exhaust pipes off the carpet before your :-* kicks your
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Steve, get those dirty exhaust pipes off the carpet before your :-* kicks your
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I like the flowers in the background of the first pic!But good job Nashua!
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Originally posted by God
Well I dunno for sure but a friend and I spent around 10-12hrs trying to do this install and well Shit has hit the ceilling and I'm having it towed to a shop tommrow to get them to try to get it installed b/c I'm having some of the same problems as what yall are saying . I dunno maybe I'm not doing the install right and its my fault but shit just doesn't want to go on nice and snug .
Well I dunno for sure but a friend and I spent around 10-12hrs trying to do this install and well Shit has hit the ceilling and I'm having it towed to a shop tommrow to get them to try to get it installed b/c I'm having some of the same problems as what yall are saying . I dunno maybe I'm not doing the install right and its my fault but shit just doesn't want to go on nice and snug .
Suzuka Master
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From: Woodstock, GA
Originally posted by ModAddict
Steve, get those dirty exhaust pipes off the carpet before your :-* kicks your !
Steve, get those dirty exhaust pipes off the carpet before your :-* kicks your
!
I wiped them down first plus it is in my basement. But regardless, had she seen them sitting there I would have gotten a scolding.
Three Wheelin'
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From: Coppell, Texas, USA
Originally posted by Mr
I'm having a fu(ken problem also.. The A pipe wont connect to the front header... The front header and the A pipe connection is about 2 to 3 inches off... I took it to a reputable mechanical that is known for headers and exhaust. He said the only thing he could try to do is bend the A pipe to see if it would connect that way.... Has anyone had this problem... Auto 03 TL-S.....
I'm having a fu(ken problem also.. The A pipe wont connect to the front header... The front header and the A pipe connection is about 2 to 3 inches off... I took it to a reputable mechanical that is known for headers and exhaust. He said the only thing he could try to do is bend the A pipe to see if it would connect that way.... Has anyone had this problem... Auto 03 TL-S.....
read all of this thread,,,,
I'm starting to loose my WARM FUZZY FEELING,,,
Did you leave the head bolts loose ???
Three Wheelin'
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From: Coppell, Texas, USA
Originally posted by God
Well I dunno for sure but a friend and I spent around 10-12hrs trying to do this install and well Shit has hit the ceilling and I'm having it towed to a shop tommrow to get them to try to get it installed b/c I'm having some of the same problems as what yall are saying . I dunno maybe I'm not doing the install right and its my fault but shit just doesn't want to go on nice and snug .
Well I dunno for sure but a friend and I spent around 10-12hrs trying to do this install and well Shit has hit the ceilling and I'm having it towed to a shop tommrow to get them to try to get it installed b/c I'm having some of the same problems as what yall are saying . I dunno maybe I'm not doing the install right and its my fault but shit just doesn't want to go on nice and snug .
If your God I guess praying is out of the question,,, hey here's a question for the college campus debate team,, who/what / if does GOD pray to????? sorry just had to go there,,,,
did you have the bolts very loose on the heads/down pipe and then slowly tighten each one to draw it up evenly,,
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Happy CL-S Pilot
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From: Nashua, NH, USA
Originally posted by Mr
I'm having a fu(ken problem also.. The A pipe wont connect to the front header... The front header and the A pipe connection is about 2 to 3 inches off... I took it to a reputable mechanical that is known for headers and exhaust. He said the only thing he could try to do is bend the A pipe to see if it would connect that way.... Has anyone had this problem... Auto 03 TL-S.....
I'm having a fu(ken problem also.. The A pipe wont connect to the front header... The front header and the A pipe connection is about 2 to 3 inches off... I took it to a reputable mechanical that is known for headers and exhaust. He said the only thing he could try to do is bend the A pipe to see if it would connect that way.... Has anyone had this problem... Auto 03 TL-S.....
If they offered to bend it, why not, dp it!
Also, note you can bore the lower holes like 2X as it is done on the stock headers. And, all bolts and nuts should be connected before tightening. Then, start at the engine block nuts.
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Im being serious.... about 2 inch....
Its not even close. They did do that. I took to the most expensive shop in town and they are experts at headers and exhaust that is there main thing...
Will bending the A Pipe cause any problems. Will I lose HP...
Its not even close. They did do that. I took to the most expensive shop in town and they are experts at headers and exhaust that is there main thing...
Will bending the A Pipe cause any problems. Will I lose HP...
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What do you mean by pinched?
It looks like the pipe that goes up to the rear header hits the oil pan. Also I would have to push the exhaust towards the front of the car... But if I push the exhaust foward then the pipe would hit the oil pan... Its a lose lose situation....
It looks like the pipe that goes up to the rear header hits the oil pan. Also I would have to push the exhaust towards the front of the car... But if I push the exhaust foward then the pipe would hit the oil pan... Its a lose lose situation....
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Happy CL-S Pilot
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From: Nashua, NH, USA
Originally posted by Mr
What do you mean by pinched?
It looks like the pipe that goes up to the rear header hits the oil pan. Also I would have to push the exhaust towards the front of the car... But if I push the exhaust foward then the pipe would hit the oil pan... Its a lose lose situation....
What do you mean by pinched?
It looks like the pipe that goes up to the rear header hits the oil pan. Also I would have to push the exhaust towards the front of the car... But if I push the exhaust foward then the pipe would hit the oil pan... Its a lose lose situation....
The front is slanted to back, the rear is upright. If you swap them it would not fit and you will have 2"-3" gap!!!
Check this first... you freaked me out on this!!!
Nashua
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Happy CL-S Pilot
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From: Nashua, NH, USA
Here is the feedback from TL_Diplomat about installing the headers and Performance Gained,
*********FEED BACK*********
Ok here is my my full story.
got my headers last wends, went to the shop on thursday, the power kept cutting off so it was frustrating as u can imagine!!
removied all OEM peices and replaces with Stone, when it was time to bolt the down pipe to the bottom of the headers it would only fit the front side, the rear was waaay off!!!!
so im like f******* so we switched the headers thinking maybe we are wrong, did that and it was off on both sides! mechanic said this shit if f***ed up!
i went nuts for two mins while i swas calming down we replaced the OEM peices and when it was time to take my car off the lift, the power went out again!!!
so my car was on the lift until the power came on and we could bring it down....
.....came home spoke to nashua, the best method is to hand tighten the bolts and get everything connected....went back to the mechanic it is now friday....i skiped work (no call no show ) the mechanic said hell noooo, i said hell yeaaa lol we got everything bolted together then the end of the down pipe and the cat converter were a bitch to put in, had to remove entire Exhaust piping and get it on and then replaced all the exhaust hangers (about 6).
***PERFORMANCE***
1st day: No Difference!!!
2nd Day: ehh i can feel the difference but not what ud expect!
3rd day! ahhh shiiiiiitttttttttt my car is a rocket on wheellllllllssssssss!!!!!
i feel a big diff in my car, now i need exhausts!!!
any questions please PM me!
Yousef
Ok here is my my full story.
got my headers last wends, went to the shop on thursday, the power kept cutting off so it was frustrating as u can imagine!!
removied all OEM peices and replaces with Stone, when it was time to bolt the down pipe to the bottom of the headers it would only fit the front side, the rear was waaay off!!!!
so im like f******* so we switched the headers thinking maybe we are wrong, did that and it was off on both sides! mechanic said this shit if f***ed up!
i went nuts for two mins while i swas calming down we replaced the OEM peices and when it was time to take my car off the lift, the power went out again!!!
so my car was on the lift until the power came on and we could bring it down....
.....came home spoke to nashua, the best method is to hand tighten the bolts and get everything connected....went back to the mechanic it is now friday....i skiped work (no call no show ) the mechanic said hell noooo, i said hell yeaaa lol we got everything bolted together then the end of the down pipe and the cat converter were a bitch to put in, had to remove entire Exhaust piping and get it on and then replaced all the exhaust hangers (about 6).
***PERFORMANCE***
1st day: No Difference!!!
2nd Day: ehh i can feel the difference but not what ud expect!
3rd day! ahhh shiiiiiitttttttttt my car is a rocket on wheellllllllssssssss!!!!!
i feel a big diff in my car, now i need exhausts!!!
any questions please PM me!
Yousef
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Happy CL-S Pilot
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From: Nashua, NH, USA
Scalbert, Shawn and all "funny guys", please keep the BS to the ramblings. This thread is meant to help the guys here.
If you still can, please go back and delete your remarks.
Thanks.
Nahsua.
If you still can, please go back and delete your remarks.
Thanks.
Nahsua.
Suzuka Master
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From: Woodstock, GA
Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
Honda bored the A-pipe hole at least 2X bigger than the header hole as shown in the following pictures. This clearly to give leeway for the headers to fit and allow some variance forward. backward and angular too!.
Honda bored the A-pipe hole at least 2X bigger than the header hole as shown in the following pictures. This clearly to give leeway for the headers to fit and allow some variance forward. backward and angular too!.
The enlarged stud hole is not for leeway in final assembly. It is to allow for easier assembly. Once everything it put together the stud would be centered.
Three Wheelin'
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From: Coppell, Texas, USA
Originally posted by scalbert
Since I have to be serious...
The enlarged stud hole is not for leeway in final assembly. It is to allow for easier assembly. Once everything it put together the stud would be centered.
Since I have to be serious...
The enlarged stud hole is not for leeway in final assembly. It is to allow for easier assembly. Once everything it put together the stud would be centered.
still waiting for somebody to measure a set of comptechs,,,, I feel like a jerk calling comptech and telling them I got a set of Stones (good pun here) and would like to see your offset...
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Happy CL-S Pilot
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From: Nashua, NH, USA
Originally posted by t-rd
Like I said, you get what you pay for. Pay for the best from Comptech and stop messing around with those cheap headers with bad alignment problems.
Like I said, you get what you pay for. Pay for the best from Comptech and stop messing around with those cheap headers with bad alignment problems.
Masshole
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From: #1 in all the land!!
Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
So, myself, BlackmagiCLS, black2k3, TL_Diplomat and more others....are all lucky not to have fitment problems?
So, myself, BlackmagiCLS, black2k3, TL_Diplomat and more others....are all lucky not to have fitment problems?
Thanks, Nashua! I'm quite pleased with my Stone Racing headers!
Black is a ***** to Clean
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From: Hollywood, California
Nashua, I know your busy helpin out those in the middle of installs and such...Do you think you could organize all the important install info you have gathered/learned from the past few pages into a post I could print out and give to a mechanic to help during the install process. That would be helpful to me and I'm sure others who have their headers sitting in the shipping box.
Also, back to the cleaning out of the headers....I cleaned out the Front & Rear headers very well w/ WD40...but I found it very difficult to get thorough with the A-pipe as the pipes are very long. I wound up cleaning out most of the areas near the ports and spraying a lot of WD-40 down each pipe entry on the A-pipe. Is this suffienct for cleaning?
Also, back to the cleaning out of the headers....I cleaned out the Front & Rear headers very well w/ WD40...but I found it very difficult to get thorough with the A-pipe as the pipes are very long. I wound up cleaning out most of the areas near the ports and spraying a lot of WD-40 down each pipe entry on the A-pipe. Is this suffienct for cleaning?
GOD Of ACURA-CL.COM
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From: Lexington, S.C.
Nashua is there anyway I can get two more gaskets and three more bolts and nuts for the header ? I need them ASAP b/c the tech said he doesn't want to reuse the gaskets and that I might have cross threaded two of the bolts and i broke one off So is there anyway i can get some from u ? Will stock acura gaskets work ? I dunno but i need a quick fix .
So is there anyway i can get some from u ? Will stock acura gaskets work ? I dunno but i need a quick fix .
Suzuka Master
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From: Woodstock, GA
Originally posted by God
Nashua is there anyway I can get two more gaskets and three more bolts and nuts for the header ? I need them ASAP b/c the tech said he doesn't want to reuse the gaskets and that I might have cross threaded two of the bolts and i broke one off So is there anyway i can get some from u ? Will stock acura gaskets work ? I dunno but i need a quick fix .
Nashua is there anyway I can get two more gaskets and three more bolts and nuts for the header ? I need them ASAP b/c the tech said he doesn't want to reuse the gaskets and that I might have cross threaded two of the bolts and i broke one off
So is there anyway i can get some from u ? Will stock acura gaskets work ? I dunno but i need a quick fix .
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Happy CL-S Pilot
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From: Nashua, NH, USA
Originally posted by AgentDSS
Nashua, I know your busy helpin out those in the middle of installs and such...Do you think you could organize all the important install info you have gathered/learned from the past few pages into a post I could print out and give to a mechanic to help during the install process. That would be helpful to me and I'm sure others who have their headers sitting in the shipping box.
Also, back to the cleaning out of the headers....I cleaned out the Front & Rear headers very well w/ WD40...but I found it very difficult to get thorough with the A-pipe as the pipes are very long. I wound up cleaning out most of the areas near the ports and spraying a lot of WD-40 down each pipe entry on the A-pipe. Is this suffienct for cleaning?
Nashua, I know your busy helpin out those in the middle of installs and such...Do you think you could organize all the important install info you have gathered/learned from the past few pages into a post I could print out and give to a mechanic to help during the install process. That would be helpful to me and I'm sure others who have their headers sitting in the shipping box.
Also, back to the cleaning out of the headers....I cleaned out the Front & Rear headers very well w/ WD40...but I found it very difficult to get thorough with the A-pipe as the pipes are very long. I wound up cleaning out most of the areas near the ports and spraying a lot of WD-40 down each pipe entry on the A-pipe. Is this suffienct for cleaning?
Nashua.
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Happy CL-S Pilot
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Nashua is there anyway I can get two more gaskets and three more bolts and nuts for the header ? I need them ASAP b/c the tech said he doesn't want to reuse the gaskets and that I might have cross threaded two of the bolts and i broke one off So is there anyway i can get some from u ? Will stock acura gaskets work ? I dunno but i need a quick fix .
So is there anyway i can get some from u ? Will stock acura gaskets work ? I dunno but i need a quick fix .
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Nashua and I found out why the front header was about 3 in off. They sent me 2 rears...
1 more question. I used WD40 to unloosen up the bolts on the rear headers. When I rev up the engine it started to smoke. I don't see anything hitting the header. Do you think that the WD40 is burning and thats causing the smoke?
1 more question. I used WD40 to unloosen up the bolts on the rear headers. When I rev up the engine it started to smoke. I don't see anything hitting the header. Do you think that the WD40 is burning and thats causing the smoke?
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Happy CL-S Pilot
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From: Nashua, NH, USA
Mr. ,
Sorry for the mistake, sometime when you are shipping more than few headers it is easy not distinguish front header from rear header. It wasn't me who did the packing and shipping.
We are shipping you a front header ASAP.
Also for you guys:
The front header is slanted to rear. It follow the shape of the front pipe.
The rear header is more upright.
Please check what you have.
Thanks.
Nashua
Sorry for the mistake, sometime when you are shipping more than few headers it is easy not distinguish front header from rear header. It wasn't me who did the packing and shipping.
We are shipping you a front header ASAP.
Also for you guys:
The front header is slanted to rear. It follow the shape of the front pipe.
The rear header is more upright.
Please check what you have.
Thanks.
Nashua
Three Wheelin'
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From: Grand Rapids, Michigan
Originally posted by t-rd
Like I said, you get what you pay for. Pay for the best from Comptech and stop messing around with those cheap headers with bad alignment problems.
Like I said, you get what you pay for. Pay for the best from Comptech and stop messing around with those cheap headers with bad alignment problems.
Three Wheelin'
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From: Coppell, Texas, USA
Originally posted by ModAddict
I hope I'm not paying Swain to coat two front headers!
I hope I'm not paying Swain to coat two front headers!