2 of my friends raced eachother tonight. One was a bone stock s2000 with 2,500 miles on it. The other was an srt-4 neon with BOV and intake. First run, the srt-4 got a great launch and the s2k's was ok. Neon had 2 cars by 60, and 4 cars by 100. Next run, the neon spins way to hard and lets off the gas for a second to get some traction, gives the s2k a one car lead, but by 100 the neon had a full carlength lead on him. My buddy with the s2k still doesn't believe that the neon has only intake and bov, even after poping the hood. Anyone know what the srt-4 traps at?? I know s2000's trap around 100, so i'm guessing the neon is higher since he pulls pretty hard on the s2k. If they don't trap over 100 stock, then maybe he is lying to everyone about his mods. ? Then another s2000 showed up and they raced eachother. They each won once, and that was a fun race to watch. An all motor prelude tried one of the s2k's after that, and he got raped by 5 car lengths. I wish honda would come out with a car that was as fast and as cheap as an srt-4, those things are soo ugly. Props to the 15psi tho.

 

I dont. Ive read a lot of complaints about the srt-4 from the owners, not to mention I knew a guy who had just got a srt-4 a month previous to me speaking to him, and he was already bitching about the quality of the car and how the none of the gauges ever worked properly.

 

what do expect for under 20k, and its american

 

Tell your friend with the S2000 to try it again when he has more miles on the engine. The S2000 engine breaks in very slow.

 

The SRT-4 is as fast as the S2K stock for stock(both between 14.1-14.3@100mph). So with BOV and Intake it sounds like the races were right on.

 

I know, i'm just wishin/joking. It'll never happen. The srt-4 is a POS! It has power windows upfront, and cranks in the back! lol. I can't ait to see them start falling apart once they hit 50k. They are quick tho.

Yeah, I would have waited till at least 5k to start driving it really hard. 2,500 miles and you start poping the clutch at 6-7 grand is no good. He said his syncros might already be fucked up, because after he raced, it kept poping out of 2nd gear when he let off the gas. At least he's got a warrantee I guess.

 

yeah, some have even reported high 13's stock for both cars. Hard for kids that just got the cars to pull that off tho.

 

the only comparison you could make between the two ARE #'s..other than that the s2000 is in a whole nother class!!!

 

What kind of tires comes on the SRT-4? you need at least some ES100 or better chek this new Kumho tire:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...tireMake=Kumho

 

S2k is weak, no balls, its not a drag car!

 

I love the s2k! I like everything about it. Especially the 9k redline! They could definately use some torque tho.

 

That isnt true, a compltely bone stock s2k with a good driver can easily run 13.7's all day long with the right launch. I myself ran 13.5 with different tires and an air intake, and I took some things out. So I know for a fact that you can beat an srt-4 with a good driver. Now dont get me wrong, it would be a driver's race. The driver of the s2k would ahve to be perfect at launching.

Hey if you dont believe me, have your friend race me. I think I would win...then again there is that whole blower thing

 

if the s2k dropped about 200 lbs to 2600, and add a 280hp 2.4L with 170lbs of tourque, then it would be a nice ass car

 

Sounds about right.

 

correction, it would be a NICER car. It is already a nice car.

 

I'll run the Neon with my 6 psi boost S2K..

 

yo, a stock SRT-4 dyno more wheel HP than it has listed crank HP??

 

who the hell was driving hte s2k he should have been able to beat it everytime if he was a good driver. i mean the srt is fast but it still is a crappy car...and not to mention that it is american. the viper and z06 dont count though....ive seen a s2k run 13.9 so it should be beating it.

 

Trust me, majority of S2000 owners will not be able to drive their moderately modded S2000 into 13's let a lone a stock one. I've talked to the guy who drove his stock S with the 13.9 on S2Ki.com. Belief me, he is a damn good driver, and he had to launch the hell out of it to get those numbers. Most S owners including myself will never abuse their cars like that, even on the track.

 

Agreed

 

and srt-4's have been hitting high 13's with good drivers too!

guess what, i found out the neon guy has a wastegate too. He never told anyone until the other day.

But he also has a fucking coffin of a sub box in the truk with 2 12" soloberics and a fat ass kicker amp. Pretty weird how fast his car is.

Also this same srt-4, has beaten anither srt-4 with boostcontrol, intake, downpipe, and something else. He's just a better driver than the guys he's been racing i guess.

 

I assume he changed his wastegate settings to run more boost?? Because he already had a wastegate; otherwise there would have been no boost control . Having a wastegate fail on you is not fun; I hit 25 PSI on my Typhoon once!!!!

Also, he changed the BOV because there was one from the factory. It may of been silent but he had one and changing it is just for the sound, there is no power gain.

 

wait for the srt4 to break in then race again

 

I went and checked out an SRT-4 I was very impressed w/ the crafstmanship over the base neon. Great little car for under 20K!

 

I bet one worked, the Autometer boost gauge in the dash...

 

boy, thats a stretch.

 

i dont think so I think it all depends on the driver. Ive seen it run 13.9 so I dont think 13.7 is toooo far out of reach. would need everything i mean everything to be perfect though.

 

yeah he did change the blow off valve to a greddy type-s. I have no idea about the wastegate, but he finally admitted that it isn't stock. Maybe he has a manual boost control hidden somewhere?because theres no electronic one inside.

 

Hey if I can do 13.5 with drag slicks, some weight reductio, and an air intake, then 13.7 bone stock shouldnt be hard. But like smeone sai before, you would have to drive it very very veryu hard, and have a perfect launch etc. to get this time. I know for a fact that it is true, because the fastest documented time in the U.S.A. for a stock s2k is 13.5-.6

 

doesn't take much for people to turn on a car. "srt beat an s2k" "i read an srt was having problems on a forum(thats a 1st for any car). my friend doesn't know how to read a gauge" "s2k should win" "i know, srt is just a terd" :golf clap: everyones happy again.

scc october took apart the engine to quiet the just a neon whinners.
good news is the 2004srt has an lsd and more power, dyno already popped up @230whp