davo-cls

sucks these things are so quick, but I still wouldn't be caught dead in one.

SRT-4 vs. WRX video

Loseit

iTrader: (1)

That is frickin cool.

jimcol711

hate all you want, that call will smoke your ass!!!

mblock66

Wait this video is saying that the new neon beat a WRX???? By that much too??? Something must have been wrong with that WRX or really freakin heavy. I know those neons are quick but according to that video the neon would have to be runnin like 12's to beat the wrx by that much hahaha

edit:

ok here is what I looked up

Dodge 0-60 5.6 1/4 14.2 STOCK
WRX 0-60 5.8 1/4 14.2 STOCK

So something is wrong with this picture

dbox

i'd much rather go suburu. AWD is reason alone...

juniorbean

iTrader: (5)

That's too awesome. I don't care what stigma the Neon has.. if I could find a used one at the end of the year for under $10k or so I'd jump on it (assuming I had the money). What a quick little car!! Gotta love it.

juniorbean

iTrader: (5)

Nothing at all is wrong with this picture..... you're comparing 0-60 and 1/4 miles times between the cars. Besides the fact that you're magazine racing.. you're quoting times that are all clocked from a standstill..... which is where the AWD of the WRX shines.

The race on the video was probably from at least a 50mph roll... so the WRX automatically gives up it's AWD advantage and it's fair game. At that point HP and torque take over and I believe the SRT has the advantage in both categories.

jimcol711

the 1/4mile number you found for the SRT-4 is a bit high....weve seen timeslips already showing 14.0....some people will definately be able to get that thing in the 13's STOCK....

mag racing is bad we all know that....remember all the mags that rate the altima the fastest FWD car ever?? or how about the article showing the CL-S does 15.3

CLS2001_97124

Wow, I like it.. can't believe how fast those things are.. Wow!!

mblock66

I understand that I am looking at stand still magazine times but I think they are fairly accurate and usually use them as a very close approximate for comparo's.

Even if the torque curves in the favor of the Neon at 50MPH I still don't see the WRX getting dusted like that. I mean if you watch that video it was like he just got left behind. No challange at all. That is why I was saying weight must have had something to do with it. Two people vs. 1 in the car. Maybe a heavy system or something?

Cause if the WRX got dusted that bad that neon passing a CLS would be like a ferrari going by us and we all know it wouldn't be that bad even with our Vtech power :shakehd:

1killercls

Picture the SRT TimeSlip with an intake and better exaust...bigger intercooler..what ever the smallest change can buy ya a half second in that car.

JRock

Right, just like the WRX.

Beltfed

Very fucking impressive, that SRT rocks......so much potential its not even funny.

Also, there were 3 people in that SRT if I wasn't dreaming (not bad at all).

dajuice27

Oh it's a smoker and a pretty yellow too! My neighbor has one and he and the WRX owners in my building are planning on racing when the weather breaks, this one I want to see for myself.

S202

SRT-4's are FAST.. no questions asked..
Mopar has dealer WARRENTIED kits for $1400 that increases 75hp from stock..
stage1.

i like the awd but if you want speed for less $.. its srt4..
..i like the suby overall though.

Chaptorial

I didn't think the link would still be working.

Nice vid.

blader

Weight on the car itself had alot to do with it, as well as drivetrain loss. I agree with Junior in the fact that alot of the WRX's advantage is its AWD launches. From a roll, it is much easier to hang with a wrx. From the line, it is very difficult.

But at a highway roll like that, the suby has extra weight from the AWD stuff and more drivetrain loss from the AWD. These two factors hurt more and more as speed increases. I also dont know how different the gearing is. Is the SRT4 5 or 6 speed? Aerodynamics also plays a big part at those speeds .. I'm sure they were in excess of 100mph. What are the drag coefficients of the two cars? The neon looks to me to be a little more aerodynamic than the wrx.

Oh and one more thing. Our cars have VTEC. Not Vtech, not V-tech, or V-TEC, or vtec ..

BC2G

that is an older wrx anyway...

CLpower

Doesn't mean it's slower then the new ones, if anything it's faster cause it's broken in

CLpower

check out this tool try to talk the SRT down on ATL

http://www.acura-tl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86638

fuzzy02CLS

iTrader: (2)

I have seen stock SRT 4's get 13.8 & 13.9's at the track. Totaly stock even stock tires. I might get one to replace my CLS after I sell it.

blader

yeah but have you ever seen their stock tires!?

they arent like our stock tires. I'm pretty sure either the 03's or 04's came stock on BGF KDW-2's, straight ultra high performance summer tires. These will be my tires for next summer.

Beltfed

My buddy got an electric blue SRT-4 like a month ago.......very cool car.

That is one ride not to hate on, get's compliments all day long on it (seriously).

mattg

he is an asshat.

Chaptorial

They all jumped on him right after that. Some of the people on ATL are

heyitsme

Can get a better picture of whats actually going by looking at the time the cars take to accelerate.

Heres the wrx

0-30: 2
0-40: 3.2
0-50: 4.5
0-70: 8.6
0-80: 10.8
0-90: 13.5
0-100: 15.5
0-110:
0-120: 25.2

and then the srt

0-30: 2.3
0-40: 3.4
0-50: 4.5
0-70: 7.5
0-80: 9.1
0-90: 11
0-100: 13.8
0-110: 16.8
0-120: 20


You can see, after the cars hit 50, the tide switches to the srt pulling away.