I want some people's opinion.

S/C w/ I/C kit from Scalbert or the Turbo from Allmotor?

...both run about the same price.

 

I think I would prefer the instant boost of a roots style blower.

 

Seeing as you have an auto, I would go with the supercharger. For manual, I would go turbo.

 

 

Yeah, your turbo options are very limited on the automatic. Not as much room for mounting the turbo plus all the plumbing that goes along with it.

 

Hmm... do I get to vote?

 

I suppose since most owners are auto's and there is no turbo-kit readily available for an auto... you should know the result without posting a poll!

 

Ummmm..... turbo . However if you get to keep your warranty and it's SMOG legal, I like the supercharger option. Turbo is more tunable and will make more power if you're interested. Plus it makes a cool BOV sound

 

pppssssccchhhh!

 

Not really on an auto as the throttle doesn't close on shifts.

 

I think the answer to the question depends on the goals. If it is to just enhance the cars ability the SC is the better choice. If it is to get the most power out of the engine then the turbo is the best route.

If the desire is somewhere in between I would consider the level of personal involvement. If you do all the work your self then the turbo may be a decent solution. The SC is a bit easier to live with if you only tinker with turning wrenches.

IMO, the SC would be better for daily driving as it is easier to have "middle of the road" power.

When everything is said and done, the turbo is the ultimate power king. However, this vehicle is very limited in how far we can go without opening up the engine. This limits the potential of the turbo increasing the power delta.

Heck, I'm still considering swapping out to a turbo as I have blown my initial plans out of the water. But I would still retain my manifold/intercooler. With that short of plumbing it would provide incredible turbo response.

 

def a s/c on the 5A

 

Actually, there are benefits to a automatic car runnign a turbo. The ability of to build boost while stationary can make for some serious launches if you have the traction. Also, the slip of the TC allow boost to be built quicker, in some cases, while moving.

However, that said, there is no turbo currently being made for the 5AT so the options are limited.

 

I would probably opt for the S/C w/ I/C kit because I like the look of the S/C and the power curve.


Scalbert, it is possible you could dress up the I/C better?

 

Ah, but the turbo curve will be very nice considering the components used by allmotor.

But about the IC, I am working on a way to dress it up right now. Actually, last night I was making some measurement for a shroud which could be polished or painted as desired.

 

Auto = CT Supercharger.

 

My concern with after-market turbo has always been heat. Damn those thing run hooottt!!!. Without the right routing, it is going to cook everything that is near it.

 

how do you remedy the overheating?

 

If you route things properly and take the necessary precautions, you don't have to worry about heat. If you are buying a kit, those precautions will be already integrated into the design.

Hell... even if its hot, you can still change the spark plugs!

 

he does have a point.

 

The problem is people don't design the turbo routing before they built them. They cut, bend,weld and route piping where ever there is space and as they progress. Yes, I have heard of dyno mat and similar product.

 

Humm....... But supercharge don't foul plugs every time you start your car up .

 

Eh?

 

I personally like the reliability of a S/C.

 

Since I already have the S/C, the I/C is the next logical step in making more power for me. And I'd say it would be more drivable and reliable the a T/C. But the T/C kit that Allmotor put together seems very clean and well designed. If I wanted to mess around with different ways of making more power, I'd also consider the T/C kit.

 

I was debating the same thing... but I have chosen the SC route.... Allmotors turbo is one hell of a project, which i would have definitely done if I had the six speed ... Timing wise I cant afford to have the car away for more than a month... so the SC looks like the best route for me

 

So, is the 305 WHP still enough for you.

 

Damn you. Now you've got me thinking about the HBP. However, the I/C is a bit over the top for me right now.

So if I were to get a modest HBP, would that add about 5-6 PSI? And about how much more WHP would I see if I currently dyno at 305 WHP? Also, besides changing to the HBP and different belt, is there any other things required to do the HBP. 91 octane will work - right?

thanks...

 

turbo turbo turbo. thats my vote!!!!!!!!!! if only i had a 6 speed and 7 g'z it would be off to cali for me.

 

Yeh, I saw BlueCLS6's turbo install tonight at the Pleasanton meet. Very clean install and awesome sound when he launched in 1st a couple of times.

 

It doesn't actuallt add 5 - 6 PSI, it just brings the boost up to that range. Nothing else is needed and as mentioned int he other thread, your belt will work just fine. You can disconnect the IMRC actuator to help smooth the boost curve whiel not affecting overall power. But that is a quick 10 second change that can be done anytime.

I suspect that you would realize about a 20 WHP gain and about 15 WTQ increase. In other words, it is noticeable and costs less than $100.

 

CARB certified is a major factor for me. I don't want to deal with pulling stuff out to get it smoged when the time comes. 5AT+Califormia+Daily Driver= SC for me. Plus, I love the whine of the SC.

 

I'd probably go for the S/C w/ the I/C kit. i'd get more than enough from the S/C I/C combo along w/ HBP, B-pipe