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Old Apr 11, 2014 | 02:24 PM
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I'm starting this as an informational thread to educate the CL community of available OEM upgrades for their current engine setups. I'm talking about OEM parts off other J series motors that can be swapped onto our 2g's for performance gains or just better reliability. Here are some common and NOT so common ones:

2G CL/TL

Intake Manifold - 09 TL-S (magnesium)
Cams - 05 RL/07 TL/MDX
Cam Springs - 05 TL-S (Stiffer)
Alternator - 99-04 Odyssey,Pilot,MDX (130a>105a)

Clutch Slave - 08 TL-S (Not sure of the benefit)



What else can you guys add












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Old Apr 11, 2014 | 03:17 PM
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how about taking something away?

remove resonator under driver side fender for an extra few hp...
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Old Apr 11, 2014 | 06:42 PM
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Acura mdx steering wheel upgrade, Acura 07 tls auto shift lob fits all auto tl and CLs from our gen.
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Old Apr 11, 2014 | 08:59 PM
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Yes steering wheel that's a good one

Steering wheel - MDX/RSX/S2000
Shift Knob - TL-S/S2000


Anyone know if the 08 TL-S Clutch slave swap provides any benefit?
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Old Apr 11, 2014 | 11:09 PM
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Acura Legend Coupe brakes can be swapped in, getting you two piston calipers.
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Old Apr 14, 2014 | 08:33 PM
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So just to clear things up; these are all straight swaps? No extra steps involved with fitment or anything?
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Old May 22, 2014 | 12:14 AM
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So just to clear things up; these are all straight swaps? No extra steps involved with fitment or anything?
? Was really considering the Oddy alternator...
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Old May 22, 2014 | 04:09 AM
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no need to do the oddessy alt unless you want more juice, the CL-S alt is pretty much bullet proof.
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Old May 22, 2014 | 09:29 AM
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great thread guys. keep em coming.

will be hunting salvage yards for these, not unless somebody has extra for sale or a good source.
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Old May 22, 2014 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
no need to do the oddessy alt unless you want more juice, the CL-S alt is pretty much bullet proof.
True, but I have an underdrive pulley. I've never had issues with anything, but I've been considering another alt to give my battery a little extra charge. Kind of a peace of mind thing, more than anything.
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Old May 22, 2014 | 07:16 PM
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I think for those that have an underdrive pulley the upgraded odyssey alt would gain back some of the amps lost due to the slower rotation. Decrease 1 part Increase the other and you back where you started.

Would be a great upgrade for those who have or want a high wattage systems that exceed 600+ watts too!

Oh and the ody alt bolts right up

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Old May 23, 2014 | 06:15 PM
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This may not be an upgrade by definition, but I removed my sunroof deflector. It gets rid of the damn hissing sound you get. The deflector is there to deflect the air over the gap the opened sunroof makes. By removing it you are compromising a smidge of wind getting in the car for a much more quiet experience. I prefer less noise. There is still some noise but it's 20% of the noise with the deflector in. 4 Phillips screws iirc and it's removed. Very easy to put back in if u think you want too.
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Old May 29, 2014 | 03:42 PM
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Cool idea!!

About the steering wheel, what about the cruise controls & the radio controls?
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Old Jun 9, 2014 | 07:47 PM
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2G CL/TL

Intake Manifold - 09 TL-S (magnesium)
Cams - 05 RL/07 TL/MDX
Cam Springs - 05 TL-S (Stiffer)
Alternator - 99-04 Odyssey,Pilot,MDX (130a>105a)
Steering wheel - MDX/RSX/S2000
Shift Knob - TL-S/S2000
Brakes - Legend calipers


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Old Jun 10, 2014 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by johndo18
Steering wheel - MDX/RSX/S2000

Do all the electronics on steering wheel work?
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Old Jun 11, 2014 | 07:17 AM
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Md. Steering wheel is 100% identical except the steering wheel itself has the wood grain in it to match the interior of the CL in the clp or black cls wood

As for the other ones you will likly need to be creative to get everything working
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 05:20 AM
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Does anyone know the actual part number for the Intake Manifold - 09 TL-S (magnesium)? Please let me know, Thanks!
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 06:48 AM
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Call acura and they will give it to you... Just ask for the tl-sh manifold. And then make sure it's for the 3.7 to be doubly sure

If u are having trouble finding the part number I can only imagine the install.

You may want a partner in crime to give some assistance.

I did not do the manifold cause it is not a direct swap so you will need to know what ur doing and be confident when u do it. I had purchased the p2r plenums prior to this knowledge so I opted to not do the same mod basically twice. And my bling factor is second to none when u pop the hood with those bad boys. I can sacrifice a few ponies for the reaction people give me lol

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Old Jun 25, 2014 | 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by CL-S progression 01
Call acura and they will give it to you... Just ask for the tl-sh manifold. And then make sure it's for the 3.7 to be doubly sure

If u are having trouble finding the part number I can only imagine the install.

You may want a partner in crime to give some assistance.

I did not do the manifold cause it is not a direct swap so you will need to know what ur doing and be confident when u do it. I had purchased the p2r plenums prior to this knowledge so I opted to not do the same mod basically twice. And my bling factor is second to none when u pop the hood with those bad boys. I can sacrifice a few ponies for the reaction people give me lol

Thanks for the heads up! I thought all of these parts were a direct swap but I dont usually do the installs I got a buddy of mines who is like a master mechanic and owns his own autoshop lol And the plenums look beasty! They are blingin for sure!!
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Old Jun 25, 2014 | 08:01 AM
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HondaPartsNow is the cheapest I've found (nothing available salvage)

17160-RK2-A00 Intake Manifold
17140-RK1-A01 Cover
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Old Jun 25, 2014 | 08:27 AM
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The manifold is a direct bolt on. It's still unclear if the butterflies work, but it should be worth it either way. You should have a bigger TB and ported runners to go along with this.

Originally Posted by e30cabrio
Bolt it up, connect all vacuum hoses needing vacuum, route the crankcase ventilation, the wires are really easy.

White/blue is positive, it goes to the right hand connector on the IMT on the new manifold, white/red (this threw me off) is negative, goes to the left hand post on the IMT (4 neg, 5 positive)

The two holes towards the TB need bolts, two more than the stock manifold had. I'll get them next time I am at a dealer.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...728942&page=24
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ht=tl+manifold
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Old Jun 25, 2014 | 01:36 PM
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HondaPartsNow is the cheapest I've found (nothing available salvage)

17160-RK2-A00 Intake Manifold
17140-RK1-A01 Cover
Will HondaPartsNow.com actually let you order it through them, though? I tried ordering through Bernardi Honda and BK Honda and both orders were cancelled. I eventually got it from Acura Parts Club for $219.
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Old Apr 20, 2015 | 03:31 PM
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OEM wiper arm upgrade. Basically slimmer side mounted wipers from an accord and honda fit....Thank brian6speed for the idea

Fit Wiper Part# 76620-SLN-A11
Accord Wiper Part# 76630-T2F-A01
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Old Apr 20, 2015 | 03:32 PM
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Update!


OEM Upgrades:

Intake Manifold - 09 TL-S (magnesium)
Cams - 05 RL/07 TL/MDX
Cam Springs - 05 TL-S (Stiffer)
Alternator - 99-04 Odyssey,Pilot,MDX (130a>105a)
Steering wheel - MDX/RSX/S2000
Shift Knob - TL-S/S2000
Brakes -RL or Legend calipers
Wheels = 3g TL
Wipers - accord & fit




Anything else?
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Old Apr 26, 2015 | 01:16 PM
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no such car as a 2005 tl type-s
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 03-6/6
no such car as a 2005 tl type-s


Yes you are right that was a mistake..thanks for the keen eye

OEM Upgrades:

Intake Manifold - 09 TL-S (magnesium)
Cams - 05 RL/07 TL/MDX
Cam Springs - 07 TL-S (Stiffer)
Alternator - 99-04 Odyssey,Pilot,MDX (130a>105a)
Steering wheel - MDX/RSX/S2000
Shift Knob - TL-S/S2000
Brakes -RL or Legend calipers
Wheels = 3g TL
Wipers - accord & fit
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 08:24 AM
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09 TL-S? you mean the 09 TL SH-AWD? no such thing as 09 TL Type S either.
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 02:26 PM
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what do put in place of resonator once its out?
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mattcl-s
what do put in place of resonator once its out?
straight pipe
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 02:40 PM
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what I meant to say was what goes in place of the intake resonator not exhaust, and all my car has is the mid muffler looks like someone already removed the exhaust resonator
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 02:52 PM
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Nothing needs to go in place there. The idea is just so it "breathes" better a la less restriction.
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 02:59 PM
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gotcha you think its even worth getting a cai when it will probably give you just as much gain removing it?
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 03:01 PM
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Nope, saves your money for something else.

CAI = noise machine, the OEM intake is already pretty free flowing as is.
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Old Apr 29, 2015 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by thoiboi
Nope, saves your money for something else.

CAI = noise machine, the OEM intake is already pretty free flowing as is.
This is a 2nd Gen cl, not a 3rd Gen tl or 7th gen accord. CAI makes good gains on our 2nd gens.

Did you get the 07 tl type s spring idea from my thread? I am running exhaust springs for a little more over-rev protection.

Any honda/acura shift knob should fit.

You can get pretty much any emblem to fit. I have NSX A emblem in front and Integra Type R A in rear.

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Removing the intake resonator will help but not give you gains like a CAI will. Once removed, just leave it. The mod is done unless you plan to install a CAI.

The intake is not free flowing, that is the CL-S exhaust system. Also the CL-S never had an exhaust resonator, only the mid muffler. The 2G TL has the additional exhaust resonator though.
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Old May 4, 2015 | 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by gnuts
The manifold is a direct bolt on. It's still unclear if the butterflies work, but it should be worth it either way. You should have a bigger TB and ported runners to go along with this.



Possible New Mod?? - Page 24 - AcuraZine Community
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you will have to fabricate the solenoid to work with the manifold. if you make the right bracket, it will work as all that thing does is open and close the butterflies
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Old May 4, 2015 | 03:34 AM
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Originally Posted by aznboi2424
Removing the intake resonator will help but not give you gains like a CAI will. Once removed, just leave it. The mod is done unless you plan to install a CAI.

The intake is not free flowing, that is the CL-S exhaust system. Also the CL-S never had an exhaust resonator, only the mid muffler. The 2G TL has the additional exhaust resonator though.
the difference between a CAI and resonator removal is minimal. The stock intake is already a Cold Air Intake as it draws air directly from the driver's side fender directly in front of the tire...
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Originally Posted by johndo18
I'm starting this as an informational thread to educate the CL community of available OEM upgrades for their current engine setups. I'm talking about OEM parts off other J series motors that can be swapped onto our 2g's for performance gains or just better reliability. Here are some common and NOT so common ones:

2G CL/TL

Intake Manifold - 09 TL-S (magnesium)
Cams - 05 RL/07 TL/MDX
Cam Springs - 05 TL-S (Stiffer)
Alternator - 99-04 Odyssey,Pilot,MDX (130a>105a)

Clutch Slave - 08 TL-S (Not sure of the benefit)



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Great idea... how about direct links to writeups assuming there are any.
I'm interested in the manifold swap but I'm curious about that butterfly thing. Aslso I've never removed the entire intake so I'm just guessing there is the plenum then the actual manifold attached to the heads? And the manifold runners are what gets ported or gasket matched?
Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
the difference between a CAI and resonator removal is minimal. The stock intake is already a Cold Air Intake as it draws air directly from the driver's side fender directly in front of the tire...
I think I agree. I can't see what benefit moving the air filter could have. Didn't those 2 Aussie tv guys take a car with a good factory intake and dyno test the factory intake against a CAI with no improvement found? I believe they even extended the filter out beyond the front of the car and saw only a tiny difference. But then they also did the most ridiculous test of BOV/recirc valves I've ever seen so...
Anyway from experience with other cars I know it sounds great and if done right it won't hurt performance. I don't think it's worth $200 tho
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