New Tranny Kicks A**!!!!!
12-17-2002 | 02:36 AM
#41
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Originally posted by CLSter
Where did this "MDX Technology" rumour come from? I guess the 2003 Accords would have a better transmission too?
Probably have to wait another 6 months before Acura/Honda gives official word.
Where did this "MDX Technology" rumour come from? I guess the 2003 Accords would have a better transmission too?
Probably have to wait another 6 months before Acura/Honda gives official word.
the new accord tranny is based off the tl/cl tranny...HOWEVER, there are many notables features it has that the cl/tl tranny lacks....check hondanews.com and click on accord and look arnd and u should get the info from there...in essence, the new features are designed to make the tranny bulletproog on the accord
12-17-2002 | 03:24 AM
#42
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Originally posted by joeandcarol2
Other than street racers, people buy manuals because they like to shift, they like the control and they like the enhanced participation in driving.. 1/4 mile times or 0-60 has nothing to do with it... Automatic cars are boring.
Other than street racers, people buy manuals because they like to shift, they like the control and they like the enhanced participation in driving.. 1/4 mile times or 0-60 has nothing to do with it... Automatic cars are boring.
my auto owns the freeway
:P
12-17-2002 | 03:33 AM
#43
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This?: Tech
New 5-Speed Automatic Transmission for V6
Replaces previous 4-speed automatic
Lightweight, compact and high torque design
Wide ratio range optimizes total performance and fuel economy
Integration with the new Electronic Throttle Control (ETC) system provides best-in-class shift quality
Low one-way clutch
Grade Logic circuitry
ATF temperature sensor allows temperature compensation for even smoother shifts
New 5-Speed Automatic Transmission for V6
Replaces previous 4-speed automatic
Lightweight, compact and high torque design
Wide ratio range optimizes total performance and fuel economy
Integration with the new Electronic Throttle Control (ETC) system provides best-in-class shift quality
Low one-way clutch
Grade Logic circuitry
ATF temperature sensor allows temperature compensation for even smoother shifts
12-17-2002 | 05:39 AM
#44
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Originally posted by Zapata
Let me preface this by saying that Nitrotigers car is FREAK! That car must be putting down atleast 210whp.......STOCK.
Let me preface this by saying that Nitrotigers car is FREAK! That car must be putting down atleast 210whp.......STOCK.
It can happen. I'm sure most of the time his car would beat me though.
12-17-2002 | 05:41 AM
#45
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Originally posted by Black CL-S 4-Life
I wonder if Honda put a new more aggressive 4th gear in?
I wonder if Honda put a new more aggressive 4th gear in?
This "MDX technology" rumor is bullshit anyway.
12-17-2002 | 05:44 AM
#46
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Its Lighter Tranny
Design for High Torque
damn, Thats a great improvement already, maybe instead of MDX tranny with low gear ratio.. try the 03 Accord Tranny.
Have you test the shift time for the MDX tranny?
Most SUV gearing are design for lower speed with fast launch... to bring the torque up. so they have better low end.. and get smoked high end.
Design for High Torque
damn, Thats a great improvement already, maybe instead of MDX tranny with low gear ratio.. try the 03 Accord Tranny.
Have you test the shift time for the MDX tranny?
Most SUV gearing are design for lower speed with fast launch... to bring the torque up. so they have better low end.. and get smoked high end.
12-17-2002 | 07:42 AM
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Burning Brakes
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BS or not whatever Acura/Honda did to my car it's smoother and faster than when i first got it. This i know. As for the mdx technology i think all they did was beef up the parts inside and change the torq converter to a higher stall speed because it engages different from the the first orginal tranny so something is different i have the proof> It's my RIDE!!! THe car is flying and it doesn't have wings
12-17-2002 | 07:45 AM
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well heres the differneces w/the new 5speed v6 tranny on the accords:
5-Speed Automatic Transmission for V6 Engines
The 5-speed automatic transmission used in V6 Accord models is different from the one in 4-cylinder models, but similar to the one used in new Acura 3.2 TL. This wide ratio transmission's lower gears provide quick acceleration while the tall top gear ratios result in low cruising rpm levels for reduced noise and lower fuel consumption. One difference from the TL transmission is the addition of the ETC system to further enhance shift smoothness by momentarily closing the throttle (reducing torque) at shift points.
Because the transmission shares the idler and third-gear clutches, the transmission provides five ratios in a unit about the size of a conventional 4-speed transmission. The transmission also incorporates a first gear one-way clutch for smoother shifts, plus a heat exchanger that controls and moderates transmission operating temperatures for both durability and improved shifting smoothness.
Linear solenoids provide precise, real-time control of the clutch on/off pressure. This superior clutch-engagement accuracy allows the grade logic control to operate smoothly under all conditions. For added refinement, a bearing supports the idler shaft.
To manage overall powertrain operation, the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) provides precise management of the transmission-engine interaction. For instance, by limiting engine output torque and/or transmission clutch pressure, hard driveline shocks are limited. The system also prevents the engine from exceeding 5000 rpm when the transmission is in neutral or park. It also has an upgraded grade logic control system similar to the one in the transmission for 4-cylinder engines.
The 5-speed automatic transmission used in V6 Accord models is different from the one in 4-cylinder models, but similar to the one used in new Acura 3.2 TL. This wide ratio transmission's lower gears provide quick acceleration while the tall top gear ratios result in low cruising rpm levels for reduced noise and lower fuel consumption. One difference from the TL transmission is the addition of the ETC system to further enhance shift smoothness by momentarily closing the throttle (reducing torque) at shift points.
Because the transmission shares the idler and third-gear clutches, the transmission provides five ratios in a unit about the size of a conventional 4-speed transmission. The transmission also incorporates a first gear one-way clutch for smoother shifts, plus a heat exchanger that controls and moderates transmission operating temperatures for both durability and improved shifting smoothness.
Linear solenoids provide precise, real-time control of the clutch on/off pressure. This superior clutch-engagement accuracy allows the grade logic control to operate smoothly under all conditions. For added refinement, a bearing supports the idler shaft.
To manage overall powertrain operation, the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) provides precise management of the transmission-engine interaction. For instance, by limiting engine output torque and/or transmission clutch pressure, hard driveline shocks are limited. The system also prevents the engine from exceeding 5000 rpm when the transmission is in neutral or park. It also has an upgraded grade logic control system similar to the one in the transmission for 4-cylinder engines.
12-17-2002 | 11:05 AM
#50
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Originally posted by JRock
Erm, I beat a CLS with CAI, Comptech headers, and Comptech exhaust and I'm stock (hi-flow intake air FILTER but that's it).
It can happen. I'm sure most of the time his car would beat me though.
Erm, I beat a CLS with CAI, Comptech headers, and Comptech exhaust and I'm stock (hi-flow intake air FILTER but that's it).
It can happen. I'm sure most of the time his car would beat me though.
Yea but his car was consistantly right with with mine and other times it was just pulling away. It had alot to do with my tires and gearing.
12-17-2002 | 03:21 PM
#51
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Originally posted by unsure
well heres the differneces w/the new 5speed v6 tranny on the accords:
well heres the differneces w/the new 5speed v6 tranny on the accords:
5-Speed Automatic Transmission for V6 Engines
The 5-speed automatic transmission used in V6 Accord models is different from the one in 4-cylinder models, but similar to the one used in new Acura 3.2 TL. This wide ratio transmission's lower gears provide quick acceleration while the tall top gear ratios result in low cruising rpm levels for reduced noise and lower fuel consumption. One difference from the TL transmission is the addition of the ETC system to further enhance shift smoothness by momentarily closing the throttle (reducing torque) at shift points.
Because the transmission shares the idler and third-gear clutches, the transmission provides five ratios in a unit about the size of a conventional 4-speed transmission. The transmission also incorporates a first gear one-way clutch for smoother shifts, plus a heat exchanger that controls and moderates transmission operating temperatures for both durability and improved shifting smoothness.
Linear solenoids provide precise, real-time control of the clutch on/off pressure. This superior clutch-engagement accuracy allows the grade logic control to operate smoothly under all conditions. For added refinement, a bearing supports the idler shaft.
To manage overall powertrain operation, the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) provides precise management of the transmission-engine interaction. For instance, by limiting engine output torque and/or transmission clutch pressure, hard driveline shocks are limited. The system also prevents the engine from exceeding 5000 rpm when the transmission is in neutral or park. It also has an upgraded grade logic control system similar to the one in the transmission for 4-cylinder engines.
The TLS/CLS has an ATF-to-coolant "intercooler" to "try" and keep transmission temperatures constant (warmer/cooler).
The ONE DIFFERENCE means ONE change.
They have a throttle that allows them to not just back off the timing – as is done on the TLS/CLS, but they can actually “close”/”reduce” the throttle opening with the “fly-by-wire” (ETC) throttle on the Accord. The “impact” is being controlled with ignition retard in the TL/CL and with the throttle in the '03 Accord – same effect, different means to accomplish it.
The rest of the story reads like the description of the current CL/CLS transmission.
God help us if someone here got a really crummy 2001 or 2002 automatic that was sucking up tons of power built by flu-struck workers with a nasty hangover on a Monday and finally gets a replacement that’s “normal”…
12-17-2002 | 03:47 PM
#53
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Originally posted by mattg
i'm hoping for 13.5's when i get my new trans
i'm hoping for 13.5's when i get my new trans
(j/k)
12-17-2002 | 04:59 PM
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The car doesn't seem to be fully engaged from a dead stop until 2200 rpm it engages like a clutch almost. and when you get on it the power isn't right there it takes a good sec to get to the ground but when it does it wakes up. it engages alot smoother on the highway than before
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