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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 04:04 PM
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Mystery Mod revealved (FOR REAL)

http://www.v6accord.com/forums/showt...?threadid=1931

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It's a manifold intake mod.

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ck Case Mystery Mod REVEALED!!!
Hello people, im here at SEMA with Gimmick. We just had a chance to check out what the "Mystery Mod" looks like. i dont think they even have a booth. We ran into the Rick Case guy(Doug), and he showed us what the thing looks like but, we still no idea what it Exactly does. He says it has something to do with resonance.

The thing actually mounts on the INtake Manifold, maybe even replaces it.

We also had a chance to see the supercharger. Beautiful!
We will post pics when we get back.
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 04:10 PM
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Re: Mystery Mod revealved (FOR REAL)

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http://www.v6accord.com/forums/showt...?threadid=1931

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It's a manifold intake mod.

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ck Case Mystery Mod REVEALED!!!
Hello people, im here at SEMA with Gimmick. We just had a chance to check out what the "Mystery Mod" looks like. i dont think they even have a booth. We ran into the Rick Case guy(Doug), and he showed us what the thing looks like but, we still no idea what it Exactly does. He says it has something to do with resonance.

The thing actually mounts on the INtake Manifold, maybe even replaces it.

We also had a chance to see the supercharger. Beautiful!
We will post pics when we get back.
So what does it do?
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 04:11 PM
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It can't replace the intake manifold

I deleted the other 2 threads in order to keep all of the comments in one topic.
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 04:13 PM
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It can't replace the intake manifold

can it mount in front of the intake manifold then? Like a small blower into the engine?
I thought you can make the throttle body bigger for my air to get pass...
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 04:14 PM
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I think "resonance" is the key word here...... Type R was saying something about that...
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 04:29 PM
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what is it purpose and how does it help is?
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 04:29 PM
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LOL, well that could just mean it's a CAI then. You know, removes the resonator that quiets the intake (and restricts it like crazy), so therefore it creates more resonance, no?

Who cares.
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 04:32 PM
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It cant be an intake manifold replacer becuase he posted dyno charts with the mystery mod and intake.
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 04:45 PM
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well no matter how it works.. as long as it gives me the preformance he promised..... ill buy it... did he mention when it goes on sale?
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 05:04 PM
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Maybe as posted by someone else (can't remember who, or in which thread) that it's a new top plate for the intake manifold. Additional space in the chamber would allow for some drastic changes in the "heimholtz resonance" effect. I'm no thermodynamic engineer (just a lowly EE ), but this makes sense.

Replacing the top plate would only take 5 minutes. This sounds like a great mod, especially for the bang it provides (dyno results.) And no ECU mods involved... equating to no real danger of voiding the warranty. This sounds great!

PICS AND MORE INFO PLEASE.

Jim
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 07:47 PM
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that would be me...the last time i said it could be that is in the post...on aem i think..ill double check and link
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 08:07 PM
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Upper Intake Manifold Cover

From the ModMole: (Btw, WHO is he? - C'mon moderators, you can check it out!)

Uhhmnnn The Rick Case Mystery Mod is an upper intake manifold cover that increases the mass volume and resonance to create an increased intake charge.
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 08:39 PM
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PRICE????????????????????????
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 08:45 PM
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Anyone have the link to the dyno results? Thanks alot!
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Old Oct 30, 2001 | 11:22 PM
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Originally posted by monkeymato
Anyone have the link to the dyno results? Thanks alot!
Here ya go:
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 01:51 AM
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I am dying to know!!! Argh I cant take the pressure no more!!!
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 05:58 AM
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Pics, price, and more info, please...... if you can.

We're die'n here...........
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by mackdaddy
Maybe as posted by someone else (can't remember who, or in which thread) that it's a new top plate for the intake manifold. Additional space in the chamber would allow for some drastic changes in the "heimholtz resonance" effect. I'm no thermodynamic engineer (just a lowly EE ), but this makes sense.

Replacing the top plate would only take 5 minutes. This sounds like a great mod, especially for the bang it provides (dyno results.) And no ECU mods involved... equating to no real danger of voiding the warranty. This sounds great!

PICS AND MORE INFO PLEASE.

Jim
Looks like MackDaddy hit it on the head... below is a post from RAdams, a mod from the TL board who I believe has been on here before.....


"Since the Mystery Mod has been discovered by those who have already attended SEMA, it is no longer a mystery -- I'll confirm to all of you that could not attend SEMA that the above information is correct. That's the Mystery Mod.

I have to say that knowing what the mod was from day 1 (ok, maybe day 2) was kinda bugging me -- a lot of you came up with great guesses.

No electrical connectors, no moving parts, no warranty issues, LOW COST -- and it really can be installed in 5 minutes

Say it with me now: "We love you, Doug." "
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 08:43 AM
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Pics pics pics... what's this baby look like installed or just the actual piece itself.
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 08:48 AM
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No electrical connectors, no moving parts, no warranty issues, LOW COST -- and it really can be installed in 5 minutes
Now thats what I like to hear...now we need to see the thing and get an actual price.
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 08:52 AM
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Ah, times of joy.

Snook, have you got any idea on availability? Just curious.

Jim
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 08:58 AM
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Now did anyone at SEMA get to SEE this thing or is it still word of mouth??
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by foe
It cant be an intake manifold replacer becuase he posted dyno charts with the mystery mod and intake.
someone decipher the chart
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 12:55 PM
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Tim (Snook) has just confirmed that This is a new top plate for the intake manifold.
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 01:01 PM
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Originally posted by juniorbean


Looks like MackDaddy hit it on the head... below is a post from RAdams, a mod from the TL board who I believe has been on here before.....


"Since the Mystery Mod has been discovered by those who have already attended SEMA, it is no longer a mystery -- I'll confirm to all of you that could not attend SEMA that the above information is correct. That's the Mystery Mod.

I have to say that knowing what the mod was from day 1 (ok, maybe day 2) was kinda bugging me -- a lot of you came up with great guesses.

No electrical connectors, no moving parts, no warranty issues, LOW COST -- and it really can be installed in 5 minutes

Say it with me now: "We love you, Doug." "
JR.
...it was me ...the someone else that mack was refering too...
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by ruvz
Tim (Snook) has just confirmed that This is a new top plate for the intake manifold.
Where did he mentioned that? Is he taking orderes?
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 01:11 PM
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Yeah when can we order it...and may sound dumd but where exactly is the intake manifold?
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 01:57 PM
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Link to Plenum + Helmholtz...


http://grapeaperacing.com/GrapeApeRa...ehelmholtz.htm

Who knows....

"Plenum Volume - There is not going to be a simple answer to the needed plenum volume for a given application or rpm range. The good thing about plenum volume is that there is a pretty wide range that it can be and still be effective, so general rules work well. The following guide lines are for engine operating in the 5000-6000 rpm rage. V8's with one large plenum feeding all 8 cylinders does not work all that well as far as the Helmholtz resonator goes, but if this is the case, plenum volume should be about 40-50% of total cylinder displacement. For a four cylinder 50-60% works well. For 3 cylinders (6 cylinder engine with two plenums), each plenum needs to be about 65-80% of the 3 cylinders it feeds. If a boost is desired in a higher rpm range, closer 7000-7500 rpm, the plenum will need to be 10-15% smaller. To get a boost in the 2500-3500 rpm range, it will need to need about 30% larger. The plenum size of a Helmholtz resonator may go against the typical plenum size rules, but the rules change when the resonator is being used. The whole Idea of a plenum is to allow the gases to slow down and gain density. The Helmholtz plenum makes a dense charge by use of pressure waves, in the same way tuned port intake runners work. This plenum sizing method does not apply to engines that to not use a tuned intake pipe. Many engine simply have the air cleaner assembly directly on the carb or throttle body having very little intake length. In those cases the Helmholtz resonator system does not work.
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by EricL
Link to Plenum + Helmholtz...


http://grapeaperacing.com/GrapeApeRa...ehelmholtz.htm

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Okay I think I just had a few flashbacks to college Thermodynamics and HVAC classes. HEH thought I'd left that all behind! heheh
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Old Oct 31, 2001 | 02:08 PM
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Okay I think I just had a few flashbacks to college Thermodynamics and HVAC classes. HEH thought I'd left that all behind! heheh
Someone didn't AND they are going to be making $$$$$$$$$$$ and $$$$$$$$
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 01:22 AM
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hehe i think i may be the only person that has a pic of it.

Too bad im not at home yet, im at a buddies house irght now and i have the pic of it on a cd.

To give you an idea, it is just polished curved cover with bolt holes for the J32.

check out the new thread/sticky over at www.accordv6.com
when i get home later tonight, i'll post the pic here/there/sho/and acura-tl


stay tuned
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 05:07 AM
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Mystery Mod PIC!



there you go guys, as promised


btw check out this thread
http://www.v6accord.com/forums/showt...3178#post16862

i added a TON of new pics from SEMA, lots of SC pics also.
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 05:50 AM
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Great pic Frank! Looks like a well crafted piece. I'm geeked!!!!

I threw this out in another thread, any idea no mass production date (i.e. in my hands, on my car)

Jim
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 06:53 AM
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If Snook, or Syncivic reads this post, please see http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...threadid=52305

TIA - Jim
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 07:35 AM
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OMG, you guys see the pics in http://www.v6accord.com/forums/showt...3178#post16862
of the Accord with the yellow bodykit that looks like a Mustang?

The tail on that car has the LEAST functional wing I've EVER seen. It's all thick and retarded looking. Looks more like it would IMPEDE airflow than aid it.
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 07:38 AM
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So, where and when can we buy this mod, and how much?
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 07:42 AM
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Jrock -

Shame on you! Your gonna post to this thread (about something else ,) and not comment!

Come on! Let's get the purchasing stage started!!!!!
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 07:48 AM
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sorry for the stupid question, but where does this bolts on ??
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by mackdaddy
Jrock -

Shame on you! Your gonna post to this thread (about something else ,) and not comment!

Come on! Let's get the purchasing stage started!!!!!
Okay first of all tell me what the hell that big shiny thing is, and where it's supposed to go in my car. Then tell me how much gains I can expect and how much it costs. :P
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Old Nov 1, 2001 | 07:58 AM
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Standby 1, for a fresh engine pic. $299.00
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