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Old 07-20-2001, 03:51 AM
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MP3 CHANGER CUSTOM INSTALL with PICS!! (dialups beware)

<p align="center">Since All the radio stations in Miami, Florida SUCK ROYAL ASS, I decided to create my own
using the NEO35 MP3 JukeBox.&nbsp; I bought 2 units&nbsp; because my friend wanted one but he totaled his car and now I am selling the second unit.&nbsp; Email me at
ridewaves@aol.com if you are interested.</p>
<p align="center">The Neo is a Hard Drive Based MP3 Player holding 30 GIGS of Music (That's
your entire library and much, much more).&nbsp; It can be trunk mounted and has
a wired remote control with the same display and buttons as the head unit and
also has a wireless remote control too!!&nbsp; It is installed just like a CD changer
via an RF Modulator or an Amp with RCA cables which are both included.&nbsp;
This kit is amazing because it comes with EVERYTHING you need to install it in
ANY car.&nbsp; However, I was not comfortable having some wired box floating
around my car so I decided to do a custom install.&nbsp; </p>
<p align="center">Since I dont use my sunglass holder, I figured it could be modified to hold
the remote display.&nbsp; It still opens and closes just like stock and when its
closed you cant tell it was ever touched.&nbsp; For those of us with leased
cars, this is cool b/c if you have to replace the part...its just a cheap
plastic piece, and if you dont, when closed, you cant tell it was ever touched.&nbsp; See pictures below to see how it looks now.&nbsp; I have also
included step by step pictures on how to do this yourself in this car.&nbsp; I
forgot to take pics of the sunglass holder before I put it back in, so use your
imagination for the mods I had to do.</p>
<p align="center">First I must thank BLK^5 for telling me how to access the Radio Antenna.&nbsp;
It was his first post and he replied to my previous post with detailed and step by step instructions saving me time and
sanity.&nbsp; I used his directions and included my pics here to demonstrate.&nbsp;
THANKS MAN!!</p>
<p align="center">----------------------------------------------------</p>
<p align="center">THIS IS THE VERY FIRST STEP!!!!&nbsp; </p>
<p align="center">REMOVE THE WOOD MOULDING</p>
<p align="center">
<img border="0" src="http://www.mrcloseout.net/images/CAR/RemoveWoodMolding.jpg" width="384" height="288"></p>
<p align="center">NEXT...</p>
<p align="center">
<img border="0" src="http://www.mrcloseout.net/images/CAR/Instructions.jpg" width="384" height="288"></p>
<p align="center">NEXT...</p>
<p align="center">
<img border="0" src="http://www.mrcloseout.net/images/CAR/SidePanelRemoved.jpg" width="384" height="288"></p>
<p align="center">Now you have slight access to the antenna cable behind the radio right in the lower
driver's side corner.&nbsp; </p>
<p align="center">Pull out the cable and pop in the one for the RF Modulator.</p>
<p align="center">Next, I ran ALL of the cables behind the dash and under the driver's door
sill and around the back seat to the trunk where I mounted the main unit.</p>
<p align="center">
<img border="0" src="http://www.mrcloseout.net/images/CAR/TrunkMount.jpg" width="384" height="288"></p>
<p align="center">This is a temporary mounting place, I will move it later.</p>
<p align="center">&nbsp;</p>
<p align="center">This is where my wired remote is...are you jealous yet?&nbsp; </p>
<p align="center">
<img border="0" src="http://www.mrcloseout.net/images/CAR/Open.jpg" width="329" height="181"></p>
<p align="center">Now You See It................................. Now You Dont!!!</p>
<p align="center">
<img border="0" src="http://www.mrcloseout.net/images/CAR/OpenandClose.gif" width="329" height="181"></p>
<p align="center">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp ;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Please...No Autographs!</p>
<p align="center">--------------</p>
<p align="center">This is the little tiny remote control unit...</p>
<p align="center">
<img border="0" src="http://www.mrcloseout.net/images/CAR/RemoteControl.jpg" width="217" height="277"></p>
<p align="center">&nbsp;</p>
<p align="center">Well...this is my solution to too many goddamn radio
commercials and all the radio stations sounding exactly the same down here.&nbsp;
If you are wondering how much music this little sucker can store?....Let me give
you an example....I only have 3 Gigs filled right now and I can drive across the
country and back and not hear the same song twice.&nbsp; The Unit will hold 27
more gigs....that's a hell of a lot of downloading.....</p>
<p align="center">PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK...&nbsp; I AM SELLING THE
SECOND UNIT.&nbsp; IT IS BRAND NEW.&nbsp; I JUST WANT THE MONEY BACK THAT I
SPENT ON IT.&nbsp; </p>
<p align="center">SINCE I HAVE INSTALLED THIS ALREADY, I WILL INSTALL YOURS FOR
A FEE.&nbsp; THE TOTAL INSTALL TIME TOOK ME ABOUT 4 HOURS BECAUSE I TOOK MY TIME
AND I TEND TO GET A LITTLE CREATIVE.</p>
<p align="center">EMAIL ME AT <a href="mailto:RIDEWAVES@AOL.COM">
RIDEWAVES@AOL.COM</a> FOR MORE INFORMATION.</p>
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YOU ARE THE MAN!!!!!!

A COUPLE QUESTIONS

A) How much is the system?

B) do you control the volume with the headhunit?

C) Where do you put your sunglasess? I know u said u never used it, so where did you used to put them?

Too bad it doesnt look as cool as the VAFC in there, but its definelty cooler than my Tommy Sunglasess

AWSOME JOB, Thanks for the instructions..If i do this, I'l be sure to print them out and give them to the radio guy to install for me
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you only have 1 unit, thats gonna be sold no problem, but i bet more than 1 person is gonna wanna do what you did..so, can u tell us how much you got it for? thanks.
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Thanks for the compliment. I rarely use my shades so I just put them in the glove box.
The volume is still controlled by the factory radio but you can increase the volume coming from the MP3. It also has a built-in EQ with presets but you can customize one too. The track names show up on the remote...this is the close-up pic of the display:
<img border="0" src="http://www.mrcloseout.net/images/CAR/Close-Up.jpg" width="331" height="157">
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I bought the unit for $485.00.
I know its a little expensive and I have been saving up for a while. I have seen some of these on Ebay and other places, but they are the older units with a different wired remote and main unit. The controls were cheap and poorly designed. The company redesigned the unit and the NEW MODELS came out only about a month ago. Beware because some people selling them link to the new model pics but really sell you the older model which is BUTT UGLY. You will be really pissed when you get it.
I will sell the unit for exactly what I paid + shipping. If anyone is interested, email me at RIDEWAVES@AOL.COM"

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i'l be interested, in about 4 months...thats how long its gonna take me to get everything else on my wishlist paid off..


btw, it wouldnt kill them to use some cooler colors in the display...
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That is a awsome set up. I got two questions for you thoguh.

1. How did you run the wire remote up to the glasses holder?
2. How do you add more files to the player? Is there a dock that goes on the computer or something?

Nice job on the installation!
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I just might have to buy that one you have left. Did you buy it online or somewhere in Miami?
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Originally posted by Oil Fighter:
<STRONG>That is a awsome set up. I got two questions for you though.

1. How did you run the wire remote up to the glasses holder?
2. How do you add more files to the player? Is there a dock that goes on the computer or something?
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1. I removed the sunglass holder and drilled a hole thru the top of it. The hole has to be big because the plug on the unit is wide. While I had the holder off, I modified it by removing the bottom part of the holder using my rotary tools and imagination. Once the sunglass holder is removed, the headliner is easily accessed and pulled down to run the wire down the side of the windshield pillar. The plastic cover just snaps off.
2. The Player is hard-drive based, meaning that it works like the old "pull-out" radios. You plug it into a bay on your computer and load the songs then you pull it out and plug it into the car bay you install in the trunk. The player does a search for all the songs in about 5 seconds and starts playing them immediately. The controls work like any cd player.
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I actually have a friend that works at an electronics store. He got his boss to order it for me from the manufacturer and we supposedly paid wholesale for it.
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Man that's tight.

One question: how high a bitrate will the player play?

Most of my mp3s are 192, 256, or 320 kbps. If I did such an install I'd want to be able to play them all and not have them degrade to 128 to be played.

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It will play any mp3 bitrate up to 320. The shitty thing is that you have one song playing at 96 then the next one at 192 and the next one at 128 so the sound quality is always changing from song to song. I disnt care before when i downloaded them. But Now i am going to rip all my cd's and consistently record them at 192 or higher to get that quality sound.
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Were you able to connect it with the RCAs or are you stuck with FM sound quality?
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Hey bro I would love to see it and I am very interested.. can i stop by or can we meet up some where today or tomorrow? I really want to see it. My cell number is 305 498 9695 (my name is Larry just in case you couldnt get it from the Handle)
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Originally posted by Rod:
<STRONG>Were you able to connect it with the RCAs or are you stuck with FM sound quality?</STRONG>
It comes with both FM and RCA connectors for any type of car install. The problem with RCA's in this car is that there is no way to switch it from the radio and i dont want to put in another external switch just to feed it thru the speakers. I figured the FM would be the cleanest install.
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Hey Larry, what area are you in? I am in North Miami Beach/Aventura Area.
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Im out in the kendall/ south miami/ pincrest area. Give me a call if your down around here. Or about half way and ill come and meet you. Give me a call.
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I am working today but I think I will be going down to Kendall this weekend. I will call you and meet you when I get down there.
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so can you transfer all your cd's on to your computer and then on the player??

Also if you change out the amp and speakers in the car can you use the RCA connection or are you still stuck with the fm connection?
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The unit comes with both RCA and FM modulator so it can be installed in any car setup. So if you upgrade to an aftermarket head unit and amp, you can switch over to RCA for cleaner sound.

click on the following link for more information:

NEO CAR JUKEBOX
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its a cool thing....but ill wait untill i can hook one up to usb....i dont wana keep openin my computer to pop this thing in
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It doesnt work like that....
You install a shell into a CDROM bay on your PC and the unit just slides in and out of it...just like in the car

Try to transfer 30 gigs of music via a USB port and you will have to shave your beard at least 3 times before you are done.
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im out of town sunday through wensday (come home wens afternoon) Give me a call my cell if always on
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Black_pride i give you so much props for that..!! damn looks so hot!!!!! i love it..
im going to buy this soon as i get some my paycheck nextweek.. but i gotta ask you some questions..??if its okay with you...

1. how do you actually transfer the mp3's from your computer to the player..?? details plz.

2. since you have the stock headunit how do you listen to the mp3's.??? what button do you press on the headunit..?? or is it on a F.M channel like some cd changers??

3. does the remote control work without pointing it upward towards the sunglass holder??

4. which fuse outlet did you hardwire this too?? and does this player turn off when the car igniton is off?? dont want to drain my battery when i forget to turn the player off.

5. how did you hide the remote wire from the window pillar to the sunglass holder..?? or you didnt hide it..??

thank you... damn that is so hot..!!!!!! i give you madd props for that..!!!!!
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The kit comes with 2 bays...one for your computer and one for the car. the unit itself slides in and out of each bay.
The one for the computer is connected just like another hard drive. When the unit is in the bay, it works just like another HDD and you can transfer to and from it and even store data files on it!! The mp3 player will ignore the data files when in the car.
When you transfer all the songs, you pull it out and plug it into the bay in the car. The player will automatically search for all songs and build a library in just a few seconds.
The sounds on mine are transferred thru an FM modulator which is included in the kit so i just tune in the required station and all my music is playing (without commercials).

To answer the wiring questions...i removed the sunglass holder and fed the wire above the headliner and down the inside of the windshield pillar under the plastic cover that just pops off. No wires are showing...ANYWHERE.

The unit is wired to the accesory fuse on the side of the dash. I believe it is the 4th one down on the right. It turns on and off with the key just like the stock radio.

The remote control is pretty sensitive. I do not have to be right in front of the player but i do have to point it upwards. I can have my arm on the armrest or on the gearshift and press a button and it will recognize it from down there.

For more info go to this LINK

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I just installed an EQ in my car. It has an a and b input, which means I can connect one to the radio, and one to mp3 player. Then from the eq it will go to the amps -> to speakers.

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<STRONG>so can you transfer all your cd's on to your computer and then on the player??

Also if you change out the amp and speakers in the car can you use the RCA connection or are you still stuck with the fm connection?</STRONG>
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this unit comes with both FM and RCA outputs so it will work via RCA jacks with your EQ.
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isnt the sound qualty bad if it goes through the F.M.?? wouldnt it sound better if you wire it straight to the radio??? could we do that??? if we could what would the button be to listen to the mp3 player??

and also do they sell this in U.S.B because i dont have any extra room on my coumputer for a new bay(i have a dvd and a cdrw)...

could you take some pictures of your player only..?(back of it)
thank you
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So does that mean with out an EQ (with just the stock radio and the after market amps) i have to hook that up to the fm band?? Is it a better sound from hooking it up with RCA's?
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damn dude, that sh*t looks tight as hell!!! there goes my tax return, already spent on that system! Looks really good and CLEAN. Good job.

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So how much are you charging for installs?
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I'm not sure how this setup actually works, but I had a CD problem on my 94 Mustang GT (the only problem so far, other than a/c needing a recharge, through 94K). So I went the cheap route and got a 10 disc Sony cd changer that connects through the RF modulator.

It was a piece of shit. CD's sounded like tapes, plain and simple. It was so bad that I had to fork over more dough to buy a new head unit that controlled a cd changer. I bought a Pioneer head unit cd (mosfet 45x4) with a 12 disc changer in the trunk and a cd slave analyzer under my head unit... looks hella fat if you seen a Mustang and how they have that double-din setup.

Anyway, my experience with rf cd changers is that they SUCK A FAT ONE. My bro-in law has one on his 92 SC400 and he hates it, too. Not sure if this is similar, but I would expect them to sound even worse than the changers since mp3s are worse to begin with in comparison to cd's. Just my 2 cents.
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Originally posted by Rod:
<STRONG>So how much are you charging for installs? </STRONG>
Installation like mine $150.
Probably take about 3 hrs...maybe less.
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THATS FUCKIN AMAZING!!!!!!!

Much respect.
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Hey give me a call today ill drive up to see the mp3 player. Call my cell 305.498.9695 . Ill be out in pincrest. Thanks bud
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looks really nice my dog
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Originally posted by SILVER-BULLET-S:
<STRONG>looks really nice my dog </STRONG>
hahahaha
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