Intercooler...
07-16-2006, 12:21 AM
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Intercooler...
i have a friend that might be interested in producing intercoolers for cl/tl/accord, hell, he can pretty much build anything. is there any demand for these? or would he most likely be wasting his time. he builds customs stainless turbo manifolds and surge tanks for rb powered nissans, and he is looking into possibly expanding into other makes of cars.
07-16-2006, 01:00 AM
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it's a waste of time for him to design one if only one or two people bought them. might not be too bad if he got hold of one that already exist and copied the design.
yeah....it would still be nice though.
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07-16-2006, 12:19 PM
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it's a waste of time for him to design one if only one or two people bought them. might not be too bad if he got hold of one that already exist and copied the design.
07-16-2006, 01:05 PM
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if he did, it would cut down on cost to you folks alot. i'll talk to him about a bolt on turbokit. i'll take some pics of some of the work he's done for nissans.
07-16-2006, 01:26 PM
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I would want one but 1500 plus for minimal gains isnt worth the money. I could probably modify something for that much. Thats the only problem. The accord ecu doesnt allow us to really get everything we should get out of these products. Serge didnt see any gains from his kit from scalbert except for bottom end.
07-16-2006, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by o1s
it would be nowhere near $1500. around half of that would be a better guess, if he didn't have to do design it.
07-17-2006, 10:55 PM
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let me talk to him tomorrow to see if he is serious about this. it will probably take a while for him to start. he is really backed up with current nissan parts.
07-20-2006, 06:48 PM
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if somebody would design a intercoooler for our cars would be a dream comtrue for me , i read schalburts intensions and i was sold and now i have to have one. so now i wait, somebody could make some good money if they would spend the time to design one
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if somebody would design a intercoooler for our cars would be a dream comtrue for me , i read schalburts intensions and i was sold and now i have to have one. so now i wait, somebody could make some good money if they would spend the time to design one
07-20-2006, 07:04 PM
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Let's be clear - Are we talking about an intercooler, for a TURBO set up or an aftercooler, for a SUPERCHARGER setup?
2 completely different animals.
2 completely different animals.
07-20-2006, 07:23 PM
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a very good question ,personly i want one for the super, i hade my shop think about it but even with all there tech. with building acura"s didnt want the challenge
07-20-2006, 08:00 PM
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I contacted some of the guys at Fox Marketing and asked about Essarak's set up and the first thingthat they told me was, "Don't do it!" they said it just caused problems and that the horse power gains were minimal. but if you are going for more of an aesthetic setup for the car than i guess it would be a good idea.
07-20-2006, 10:55 PM
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I contacted some of the guys at Fox Marketing and asked about Essarak's set up and the first thingthat they told me was, "Don't do it!" they said it just caused problems and that the horse power gains were minimal. but if you are going for more of an aesthetic setup for the car than i guess it would be a good idea.
Scalbert's design is more correctly described as a water to air Aftercooler if I'm correct.
07-21-2006, 11:51 AM
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Dont let people turn you off on this if you can make it happen. There is always some one asking why doesnt comptech make us an intercooler whether it be air/air or air/water. Whether it gives you minimal gains or not it helps you get to the next level (MORE BOOST). Also less detonation due to 80 degree cooler intake air. We need this.
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Originally Posted by o1s
it would be nowhere near $1500. around half of that would be a better guess, if he didn't have to do design it.
Ehhh... Then I'll pass. A $750 air-to-water intercooler doesn't sound too appealing to me. The cost of materials and fabrication is pretty high on Scalbert's units. And remember, he's at most going to produce a dozen of these. That's just reality when it comes to this car and this forum. People talk A LOT but when it comes time to put up money it rarely happens.
07-21-2006, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by hemhaw
Let's be clear - Are we talking about an intercooler, for a TURBO set up or an aftercooler, for a SUPERCHARGER setup?
2 completely different animals.
2 completely different animals.
Not really...you could easily use Scalbert's air-to-water design with a turbocharged CL/TL. It's not that uncommon to have a air-to-water intercooler with a turbo car.
07-21-2006, 02:40 PM
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Ehhh... Then I'll pass. A $750 air-to-water intercooler doesn't sound too appealing to me. The cost of materials and fabrication is pretty high on Scalbert's units. And remember, he's at most going to produce a dozen of these. That's just reality when it comes to this car and this forum. People talk A LOT but when it comes time to put up money it rarely happens.
07-21-2006, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Ehhh... Then I'll pass. A $750 air-to-water intercooler doesn't sound too appealing to me. The cost of materials and fabrication is pretty high on Scalbert's units. And remember, he's at most going to produce a dozen of these. That's just reality when it comes to this car and this forum. People talk A LOT but when it comes time to put up money it rarely happens.
07-21-2006, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Not really...you could easily use Scalbert's air-to-water design with a turbocharged CL/TL. It's not that uncommon to have a air-to-water intercooler with a turbo car.
Is it possible to use a front mount intercooler on a SC application? I thought the cooler had to be after the pump.
07-21-2006, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by hemhaw
Steve -
Is it possible to use a front mount intercooler on a SC application? I thought the cooler had to be after the pump.
Is it possible to use a front mount intercooler on a SC application? I thought the cooler had to be after the pump.
07-22-2006, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by hemhaw
Steve -
Is it possible to use a front mount intercooler on a SC application? I thought the cooler had to be after the pump.
Is it possible to use a front mount intercooler on a SC application? I thought the cooler had to be after the pump.
Yes you could easily... and the intercooler would be placed after the compressor. The problem with using a front mount is the increase in lag due to the substantial increase in air volume.
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