i have a friend that might be interested in producing intercoolers for cl/tl/accord, hell, he can pretty much build anything. is there any demand for these? or would he most likely be wasting his time. he builds customs stainless turbo manifolds and surge tanks for rb powered nissans, and he is looking into possibly expanding into other makes of cars.

 

There are people in here with Turbos and Superchargers well in need of intercoolers. It would not be a waste of time.

 

it's a waste of time for him to design one if only one or two people bought them. might not be too bad if he got hold of one that already exist and copied the design.

 

yeah....it would still be nice though.

 

being nice doesn't pay the bills, unless you are a waitress at hooters.

 

Are you talking about fabricating a bolt on turbo kit? or just a FMIC?

 

a BOLT ON TURBO KIT WOULD BE INSANE!

 

Wonder if Scalbert would share his design since he's not in production anymore?

 

if he did, it would cut down on cost to you folks alot. i'll talk to him about a bolt on turbokit. i'll take some pics of some of the work he's done for nissans.

 

I would want one but 1500 plus for minimal gains isnt worth the money. I could probably modify something for that much. Thats the only problem. The accord ecu doesnt allow us to really get everything we should get out of these products. Serge didnt see any gains from his kit from scalbert except for bottom end.

 

Ford claims 8 to 12HP gain I known serge and his car looks good

 

it would be nowhere near $1500. around half of that would be a better guess, if he didn't have to do design it.

 

That would be pretty good then. I would probably be down for one.

 

I knew somebody would respond. Just wait for the rest to flow in.

 

Assuming I went in SC direction, then I'd be up for it.

 

got me currious

 

I'm interested in intercoolers... I know a few people would be

 

i want an intercooler. A front mount would be great. I have the money right now. Lets GO!

 

I have the cad files to that topmount intercooler.

 

let me talk to him tomorrow to see if he is serious about this. it will probably take a while for him to start. he is really backed up with current nissan parts.

 

^^^Told ya...

 

if somebody would design a intercoooler for our cars would be a dream comtrue for me , i read schalburts intensions and i was sold and now i have to have one. so now i wait, somebody could make some good money if they would spend the time to design one

 

if somebody would design a intercoooler for our cars would be a dream comtrue for me , i read schalburts intensions and i was sold and now i have to have one. so now i wait, somebody could make some good money if they would spend the time to design one

 

Let's be clear - Are we talking about an intercooler, for a TURBO set up or an aftercooler, for a SUPERCHARGER setup?

2 completely different animals.

 

a very good question ,personly i want one for the super, i hade my shop think about it but even with all there tech. with building acura"s didnt want the challenge

 

I contacted some of the guys at Fox Marketing and asked about Essarak's set up and the first thingthat they told me was, "Don't do it!" they said it just caused problems and that the horse power gains were minimal. but if you are going for more of an aesthetic setup for the car than i guess it would be a good idea.

 

Isn't Essarak running an Air to Air FMIC?

Scalbert's design is more correctly described as a water to air Aftercooler if I'm correct.

 

it would be an air to water aftercooler. there are alot more supercharged guys than turbo guys on this board.

 

Dont let people turn you off on this if you can make it happen. There is always some one asking why doesnt comptech make us an intercooler whether it be air/air or air/water. Whether it gives you minimal gains or not it helps you get to the next level (MORE BOOST). Also less detonation due to 80 degree cooler intake air. We need this.

 

Ehhh... Then I'll pass. A $750 air-to-water intercooler doesn't sound too appealing to me. The cost of materials and fabrication is pretty high on Scalbert's units. And remember, he's at most going to produce a dozen of these. That's just reality when it comes to this car and this forum. People talk A LOT but when it comes time to put up money it rarely happens.

 

Not really...you could easily use Scalbert's air-to-water design with a turbocharged CL/TL. It's not that uncommon to have a air-to-water intercooler with a turbo car.

 

I though you were selling your CL-S6

 

yeah... well the wind blows a new direction each day too.

If I keep it I'll go turbo sooner than later.

 

ehh, I'm sure there are alot of people that are willing to buy an intercooler for their s/c setups as long as the price and gains are resonable...

 

he got a parts list and drew up a design. i talked to him on the way home from work, he is thinking that it would not be worth his time to build them. he said demand would not offset time and cost of production. i don't really blame him though. i like my car, but for the same amount of money, you can make alot of other cars twice as fast.

 

Steve -

Is it possible to use a front mount intercooler on a SC application? I thought the cooler had to be after the pump.

 

I'll be getting charged soon myself and would be interested if someone actually takes the time to develope it

 

There was a guy in modified mag that had one but it looked like he changed the bootom of the blower so that the tube went straight down and into intercooler. then it wrapped up and around the motor to the intake manifold. It even had blow off valve, probably for the noise. Yes the cooler has to be after the pump whether it be s/c or turbo.

 

Yes you could easily... and the intercooler would be placed after the compressor. The problem with using a front mount is the increase in lag due to the substantial increase in air volume.