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Old Feb 18, 2001 | 10:12 PM
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Earnhardt Dead After Last-Lap Crash

This truly ****ing sucks! I don't care for NASCAR and I ****ing despise NASCAR fans, but Big E was one of the greatest drivers ever. I honestly just want to break down and ****ing cry.



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Old Feb 18, 2001 | 10:20 PM
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NO F*CKING WAY!!! When did it happen? I can't find any race commentary on ESPN or any local channel. What happened and how?

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Old Feb 18, 2001 | 10:23 PM
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Check out yahoo news.

he crashed on the last lap, last turn...1/2 mi out from the finish line. He was pushing for position...

Or read the news that Shawn posted in the ramblings column.
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Old Feb 18, 2001 | 10:53 PM
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So sad

http://www.latimes.com/obituary/lat_earnhardt010219.htm

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Old Feb 18, 2001 | 10:55 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by droideka:
I don't care for NASCAR and I ****ing despise NASCAR fans

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So I guess you despise me then.
Not all NASCAR fans are inbred hicks like the stereotypes suggest.

Sorry I’m being defensive right now, but I’m a bit shook up over this.

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Old Feb 18, 2001 | 10:58 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bullet-TypeS:
NO F*CKING WAY!!! When did it happen? I can't find any race commentary on ESPN or any local channel. What happened and how?

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its on speedvision.


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Old Feb 18, 2001 | 11:00 PM
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I too am no fan of NASCAR...

But I felt terrible when I heard the newsflash a few hours ago.

Of all people... just seems abnormally tragic in someway.

Did you guys see the video of the accident? It looked so minor... and they said he sustained massive head & chest injurys... I just dont see how. It looked like such a wimpy accident.

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Old Feb 18, 2001 | 11:12 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by soopa:
I too am no fan of NASCAR...

But I felt terrible when I heard the newsflash a few hours ago.

Of all people... just seems abnormally tragic in someway.

Did you guys see the video of the accident? It looked so minor... and they said he sustained massive head & chest injurys... I just dont see how. It looked like such a wimpy accident.

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Consider it to be 170+mph into a wall. That's a lot of force to reckon with.

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Old Feb 18, 2001 | 11:23 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by AndyN aka CLTypeS:
Consider it to be 170+mph into a wall. That's a lot of force to reckon with.
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Damn... guess the videos just dont do it justice. It really looked very minor on the news.

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Old Feb 18, 2001 | 11:25 PM
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One of the things which I never understood about physics but the crashes where ou see stuff flying around and crap peeling off the car are the less dangerous of the two. Earnhardt hit the wall at 160-175 almost straight on. They are saying severe head trama to the lower back of the head (neck) and that he had no pulse, was unconcious and not breathing from the time the first EMT arrived at the car. I am now speculating but decelerating from 160 to almost nothing would snap your neck I guess. I was never a Earnhardt fan but could watch any Nascar race from start to finish. You had to respect Earnhardt like you respect you favor teams biggest rival.

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They've been trying to get safety measures up a bit, but the law wasn't passed yet. I think something like 3 other drivers died this year so they were looking into it. Im pretty damn sure that they are going to do something now....I mean I mourn for all their deaths, but you know that nothings gets done until someone big and famous gets hurt.

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Old Feb 18, 2001 | 11:26 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by soopa:
Damn... guess the videos just dont do it justice. It really looked very minor on the news.

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I thought the same thing when I saw it - with a 5-point harness and majorly reinforced car I would think compared to the other major flip twisting wrecks I've seen on ESPN of NASCAR that #3 would not have been seriously hurt or killed from this one.

Truly a sad and strange event

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Old Feb 19, 2001 | 12:02 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Shawn S:
So I guess you despise me then.
Not all NASCAR fans are inbred hicks like the stereotypes suggest.

Sorry I’m being defensive right now, but I’m a bit shook up over this.

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I'm sorry too, Shawn. I should have held my tongue as I'm only speaking of the stereotypical, white trash goober so prominent here in North Texas. I'm so f*cked up over this and have already cried twice. Yeah, I cried like a f*cking baby, but I'm going to miss this man terribly.

Just think, he was well on his to a road course career with his debut at the Rolex 24 this year.



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Old Feb 19, 2001 | 12:59 AM
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I watched the entire race and was very glad to see Waltrip win! I saw the crash and thought it was not that bad, but about 2 hours later I heard that Earnhardt died.

Very, very sad.

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Old Feb 19, 2001 | 01:22 AM
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what a horrible accident, my thoughts go out to his family and friends...

Just of few comments from the medical side of things. In the field of trauma these fall under a general description of decceleration injuries. There are certain classical findings. These are usually manifested by tears of the aorta and/or flexion/extension injuries of the upper cervical spine. In the case of spine injuries, these are usually similar to what one gets during judicial hangins where the vertebra slide on each other and the cord or brain stem is injured. Now, the aorta it is classically ruptured at the point where the left arm artery comes off it. It is a relatively fixed point in the course of the vessel and thus with deccelaration, the vessel is displaced drastically with respect to this point leading to rupture. Nearly 90% of these die in the field. Just think about it. A free rupture of the aorta and the heart pumping 5 liters of blood per minute and within 1 min the entire blood volume is in the chest and patient is dead...devastating injury



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Old Feb 19, 2001 | 01:23 AM
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I too am not a NASCAR fan persee'. But I am truly crushed. I watched a lot of that race, and saw the accident live. I agree it is hard to believe that someone could die in accident like that, given the safety cage and the five point belts. But, the one thing that is not secure is the drivers head. He probably hit that wall at 140-160 MPH, the car and his body stopped, but his head didn't. I think the autopsy will show that he broke his neck.

Regardless of whether you are a NASCAR fan or not. Anytime "one of the greats" goes down, it is truly a dark day. I mean, this guy owned the sport. You don't have to be a fan to appreciate the anguish, and sense of loss millions of people will be going through.

RIP Dale.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MikeS 18:
One of the things which I never understood about physics but the crashes where ou see stuff flying around and crap peeling off the car are the less dangerous of the two. Earnhardt hit the wall at 160-175 almost straight on. They are saying severe head trama to the lower back of the head (neck) and that he had no pulse, was unconcious and not breathing from the time the first EMT arrived at the car. I am now speculating but decelerating from 160 to almost nothing would snap your neck I guess. I was never a Earnhardt fan but could watch any Nascar race from start to finish. You had to respect Earnhardt like you respect you favor teams biggest rival.

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Apparently when a car spins or even gets airborn or when parts get ripped off by the air resistance it allows the car to lose energy. The car slows down with every spin or when it lauches. I'm sure NASCAR has come up with a lot of features to protect drivers from crush injuries when a car flips but how do you prevent head on crashes? Like Astroboy said, sudden impact at 170 just rips everything up. Hell injuries at 60mph can rip stuff up.
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Old Feb 19, 2001 | 03:38 AM
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I'm a recent NASCAR fans after attending my first race in Phoenix (you wouldn't know it if you saw me). We were in the box where we met Kyle Petty and outside Tony Stewart. Now that Kansas City has a track, I'm a big fan and I watched the entire Daytona race.

After Tony's crash, I was sure this race would end without further incident, how can you have a more horrible crash? While the camera was on Waltrip, Dale was in a fatal crash that appeared to be very minor. So much so, I didn't hear about it until my brother called me just hours ago.

It saddens me that anyone would be killed. There have been so many tragic deaths recently including the late Adam Petty, whom we (Sprint) were so fond of.

Our thoughts are with the Earnhardt family.

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I too saw the accident on Speedvision. Thought it was a pretty minor "fender/bender" compared to the flip, roll, and crash maneuvers where the driver walked away relatively unscathed.

I am not a NASCAR fan, more of a Formula 1 and Touring, but I was also saddened when I heard the news. Dale Earnhardt is one of most well respected and extremely good drivers. The sport will miss a great man.

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Old Feb 19, 2001 | 07:00 AM
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He will be missed. It is almost like a twilight zone episode. To be killed on the last lap...

He was a class act and died doing what he loved.

I am dumbfounded, hurt, and at a loss for words.


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Old Feb 19, 2001 | 07:27 AM
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i was so glad to see him race the vette in datona. a huge loss for motorsports. this incident will most likely result in slowing down nascar and possibly cart and f1 too. but he died as a racer in a race, if you asked him how he wanted to go, im sure that would be at the top of his choices. he will be missed.

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Old Feb 19, 2001 | 08:21 AM
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Very sad day...... He had a history of heart problems, and too many concussions from his many years of racing. It could have been the long term effects combined with the hard hit that finished him.

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Old Feb 19, 2001 | 09:07 AM
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My heart, thoughts and prayers goe out to the Earnhardt family. I am not (anymore) any big nascar fan, nor do I fit the 1 toofus hick profile. I did tear up after reading the news last nite on nascar's site after having watched the race. I've seen the Intimidator in so many crashes, this one seemed real tame in comparison to the one he took in Daytona a while back. I was surprised he died from the injuries. Strangely, the less said on tv and in interviews with drivers (Ken Schrader for example was 1st one there) you KNOW he was in serious trouble. I was in the room where it was announced Greg Moore died at the California Speedway and leading up to that point, you knew he was in big trouble. People say racers die doing what they enjoyed best, watching Dale saw the wheel back and forth in a mad attempt to regain control may have been just such a moment for him. I have no reason to watch the occasional nascar race any more. Godspeed Dale, we will miss you.

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Old Feb 19, 2001 | 11:33 AM
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Another thing no one mentioned was that after Earnhardt's Tallegega crash a few years ago he wasn't the same. In fact during a race at Darlington Dale forgot where he was and what he was doing. A person's head can only take so many of those crashes before his brain detaches from his spine. I was never a #3 fan, but I recognize what he did for the sport. Godspeed Dale!
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rest in peace DAlE
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I actually cried again this morning, while reading all the reactions and such at ESPN.com.
I am not the biggest NASCAR fan by any means, but you can't help but associate Dale Earnhardt with NASCAR.

I felt the same exact way when Payne Stewart died last year.

Very sad day for all indeed. My thoughts and prayers go out to his immediate family and his NASCAR family as well.



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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by avengerjr:
I actually cried again this morning, while reading all the reactions and such at ESPN.com.
I am not the biggest NASCAR fan by any means, but you can't help but associate Dale Earnhardt with NASCAR.

I felt the same exact way when Payne Stewart died last year.

Very sad day for all indeed. My thoughts and prayers go out to his immediate family and his NASCAR family as well.



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is there a reply of the video? i want to see what went wrong. thx

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Sorry to dig this up from the 2nd page of acura-cl.com, but I wasn't really online this weekend.

I saw pretty much the whole race. I usually don't watch many of the races, but the superspeedways are always exciting, especially the Daytona 500. I've always been into all kinds of auto-racing, but mostly NASCAR. Probably for about 15 years or so (I'm 24 now). I pretty much grew up watching the greats (Petty, Yarborough, Allison, etc.). Of course by then Earnhardt was a relative newbie, but he had already racked up several championships. Like I said, I saw the race and the accident. It didn't look too major. So much so that FOX really didn't even show more then 1 replay. They went to the winner circle, interviewed Waltrip, then off the air showing the ambulance leaving the track. A couple of hours later my father told me he died. I was in shock, I actually didn't believe him. I flipped through all of the channels and no one was saying anything, so I thought my dad was talking about Eddie Mathews, the hall of fame baseball player who died Sunday. Then the 7pm Sportscenter came on and there it was. I was in shock...I still am. I was never a big Earnhardt fan. He was the guy you loved to hate b/c of his driving style. I almost always routed against him, but was also happy when he won. He definately was a hero for many, and he died a hero. Auto Racing will miss him, but you have to keep in mind, he left behind a family too....



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