DEPRESSED!!! 221WHP with SUPERCHARGER!!!???!!!
09-12-2007, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by New Image
to clarify something
the feeler gauges i used were .008 / .203 for intake and .012 / .305 for exhaust
did i use the correct gap gauge? this whole conversion thing is confusing me
the feeler gauges i used were .008 / .203 for intake and .012 / .305 for exhaust
did i use the correct gap gauge? this whole conversion thing is confusing me
Exhaust 028 - 0.32mm
What you used will be within spec. I would probably use .009" /.2286 for the intake though.
09-13-2007, 03:51 AM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
2.93v on the 6-speed.
09-13-2007, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Did you buy your kit new or used? Was it an automatic or 6-speed kit?
09-13-2007, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Get a scan tool yet?
not yet. i need to readjust my valves, they r ticking hardcore and i dont want to fuck up my rocker arms
09-13-2007, 12:30 PM
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Hey, it sounded like my car before I blew the engine.
new image you never cease to amaze me. always beating the shit out of your cars, and you still wonder why they mess up?
09-13-2007, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by New Image
it was a 6speed kit and used, but in perfect working condition
Oh and move that FPR to the firewall where it belongs. You're asking for trouble attaching it to the strut bar with plastic zip ties.
09-13-2007, 02:02 PM
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steve, I had a misfiring problem prior to the s/c install. it should have been something that should have been taken care of before anything mods were done. but i got too anxious and went ahead anyways. so my problem still occurs, and is directly correlated to the problem i had b4, misfires.
i need to get down to the bottom of my loss of power due to misfires. the hesitation while driving, due to misfires, even tho the cel light comes and goes, i now know that all this relates to the misfires i have on all cylinders, which almost in a way id like to explain as a partial misfire cause the power surges and fluctuates. it comes and goes when it wants to.
i need to get down to the bottom of my loss of power due to misfires. the hesitation while driving, due to misfires, even tho the cel light comes and goes, i now know that all this relates to the misfires i have on all cylinders, which almost in a way id like to explain as a partial misfire cause the power surges and fluctuates. it comes and goes when it wants to.
09-13-2007, 02:12 PM
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Wonder what's up with all the J series putting down little power out here in Texas. I know how you feel man, I hvae loss of compression in two cylinders. And I have yet to taken the heads off. I'm just too lazy to get it started, cause I know it'll take a few hours for me to do.
Keep fighting! You'll win eventually and firgure it all out.
Keep fighting! You'll win eventually and firgure it all out.
09-13-2007, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by New Image
yes ik22
and imrc is connected
and imrc is connected
Not related to the problems you are having now but that IMRC better get disconnected soon or you'll be building a short block over the winter
09-13-2007, 11:40 PM
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FYI this is how a supercharged CL-S should sound under the hood at idle and while reved
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09-14-2007, 10:47 AM
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well i took it apart last nite and found the clacking problem. two of the adjusting nuts on the intake arm of cylinder 6 had come off. NO CLUE how, but obviously due to some sort of error on my behalf. the nuts were thankfully sitting in the valve cover. fired her up, everything fine now.
feels much better than b4. much less hesitation thruout the power band. but i still have some places in the mid range and a spot in the top end were i can feel slight hesitation.
i need to get down to the bottom of this, and i can almost know for certain it is spark related.
feels much better than b4. much less hesitation thruout the power band. but i still have some places in the mid range and a spot in the top end were i can feel slight hesitation.
i need to get down to the bottom of this, and i can almost know for certain it is spark related.
09-15-2007, 07:29 AM
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THE J35A2...
Originally Posted by mrsteve
get some bent pipes make a DIY CAI and get a sound like this
but seriously dude before anything, you gotta get your car running right on NA form before you put the SC...
09-15-2007, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
I would still disconnect it. The Helmholtz resonance theory does not apply under positive pressure.
I have my Imrc connected with my standard pulley. Am I safe with it connected? I'm getting mixed info......btw can't wait unitl I get a hold of the HBP
09-16-2007, 12:25 AM
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THE J35A2...
reason why people prefer to have it disconnected is for your engine to be safe on detonation. if you running low boost and get the IMRC dc, you'll loose power on mid RPM. personally, i'll have it connected but always with premium gas.
09-16-2007, 03:40 AM
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I would keep the IMRC in because you'll have better off boost performance with it closed as opposed to removed or always open. ie when your cruising on the freeway under vacuum you want to be as efficient off boost as possible during this scenario.
09-16-2007, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Accord_V6_400m
I would keep the IMRC in because you'll have better off boost performance with it closed as opposed to removed or always open. ie when your cruising on the freeway under vacuum you want to be as efficient off boost as possible during this scenario.
I have personally seen 2 motors fried from having the IMRC connected and the person who I sold my last S/C kit to also fried his motor because he had the IMRC connected.
These were on cars with no special mods other than the standard Comptech bolt-ons and S/C kit with the HBP.
What's better: Having (ever so slightly) increased fuel economy while cruising or not requiring a new short-block after 5,000 miles?
09-16-2007, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SIRSIG
reason why people prefer to have it disconnected is for your engine to be safe on detonation. if you running low boost and get the IMRC dc, you'll loose power on mid RPM. personally, i'll have it connected but always with premium gas.
You have the e-manage and can tune your way around it.
Those people who don't have the e-manage can't ramp up the fuel prior to the IMRC opening and they will detonate/knock between the IMRC opening and VTEC engaging (where the ECU dumps tons of fuel).
09-16-2007, 10:28 AM
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Okay...
So the theory is:
IMRC disconnected regardless of whether the Supercharger is using the standard boost pulley or the HBP.
Mine is connected, but I run the standard boost pulley. On a rare occassion I get detonation. I have had my charger on the car for 11K miles.
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So the theory is:
IMRC disconnected regardless of whether the Supercharger is using the standard boost pulley or the HBP.
Mine is connected, but I run the standard boost pulley. On a rare occassion I get detonation. I have had my charger on the car for 11K miles.
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09-16-2007, 11:07 AM
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The IMRC can stay connected with the standard boost pulley.
The Helmholtz resonance effect that occurs within our upper intake manifold plenum in theory increases the volume of the plenum which slows down the velocity of the air which in theory makes the air more dense.
Since we are already compressing the air above the ambient pressure the effect of the Helmholtz resonator further increases the density of the air beyond what our standard fuel delivery (even with the rising rate FPR) can handle. There will be a lean spot from the time the IMRC actuates to the point where VTEC engages. VTEC engages and the ECU goes real heavy on the fuel. Anyone who has seen a dyno of this car with AFR has noticed this and it is nearly impossible to tune your way around it without control over pulse width.
If you are having detonation with the standard boost pulley I would check your fuel pressure.
The Helmholtz resonance effect that occurs within our upper intake manifold plenum in theory increases the volume of the plenum which slows down the velocity of the air which in theory makes the air more dense.
Since we are already compressing the air above the ambient pressure the effect of the Helmholtz resonator further increases the density of the air beyond what our standard fuel delivery (even with the rising rate FPR) can handle. There will be a lean spot from the time the IMRC actuates to the point where VTEC engages. VTEC engages and the ECU goes real heavy on the fuel. Anyone who has seen a dyno of this car with AFR has noticed this and it is nearly impossible to tune your way around it without control over pulse width.
If you are having detonation with the standard boost pulley I would check your fuel pressure.
09-16-2007, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
I have personally seen 2 motors fried from having the IMRC connected and the person who I sold my last S/C kit to also fried his motor because he had the IMRC connected.
These were on cars with no special mods other than the standard Comptech bolt-ons and S/C kit with the HBP.
What's better: Having (ever so slightly) increased fuel economy while cruising or not requiring a new short-block after 5,000 miles?
These were on cars with no special mods other than the standard Comptech bolt-ons and S/C kit with the HBP.
What's better: Having (ever so slightly) increased fuel economy while cruising or not requiring a new short-block after 5,000 miles?
Your not going to detonate unless the car is not properly tuned for it, ie ESM only.
09-16-2007, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Accord_V6_400m
No ones talking about the HBP
Originally Posted by SIRSIG
reason why people prefer to have it disconnected is for your engine to be safe on detonation. if you running low boost and get the IMRC dc, you'll loose power on mid RPM. personally, i'll have it connected but always with premium gas.
He's running more than the HBP
Your not going to detonate unless the car is not properly tuned for it, ie ESM only.
Originally Posted by Paclark01
Mine is connected, but I run the standard boost pulley. On a rare occassion I get detonation.
What's that ^ then?
