DEPRESSED!!! 221WHP with SUPERCHARGER!!!???!!!
09-10-2007, 04:48 PM
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Well comptech says that for the CLS 6spd the voltage clamp should be set on the ESM at 2.9V and 2.8 for the Accord and TLS A/T in the SC part list, but I believe the actual valvues are 2.83 and 2.93. The NSX and CLS 6spd ESM voltage values should be the same.
You can check the voltage on it by inserting the two prongs of a voltmeter into the ESM, it has two holes for this very reason, and an adjustment screw somewhere on it so you can change the voltage if necessary.
You can check the voltage on it by inserting the two prongs of a voltmeter into the ESM, it has two holes for this very reason, and an adjustment screw somewhere on it so you can change the voltage if necessary.
09-10-2007, 07:48 PM
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Well I wanted it under the hood to check what my idle fuel pressure was. I am trying to narrow it down.
Tonite I will be removing the valve covers and adjusting my valve gap clearance. If anyone knows what the gapping is for intake and exhaust valves please let me know. If the gapping is the same across the j30 and j32 motor, then I have the numbers. I would just like to double check b4 starting tonite.
Tonite I will be removing the valve covers and adjusting my valve gap clearance. If anyone knows what the gapping is for intake and exhaust valves please let me know. If the gapping is the same across the j30 and j32 motor, then I have the numbers. I would just like to double check b4 starting tonite.
09-10-2007, 11:58 PM
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i am beginning to think my timing is off. is it possible to throw timing off with an engine overrev condition? possibly thru skipped timing belt, or is that highly unlikely?
09-11-2007, 04:54 AM
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Your car more then likely would go into limp mode if the timing was off like that, thata what happened to me when my belt jumped a tooth when I did my valve adjustment, wouldn't go past 2K when warmed up.
I doubt its timing, its probably a simpler matter that you're dealing with.
I doubt its timing, its probably a simpler matter that you're dealing with.
09-11-2007, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by New Image
i am beginning to think my timing is off. is it possible to throw timing off with an engine overrev condition? possibly thru skipped timing belt, or is that highly unlikely?
No sh*t your timing is off. It's off because your car is seeing boost. Have you not yet checked the voltage clamp? It literally takes 30 seconds.
09-11-2007, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Accord_V6_400m
I doubt its timing, its probably a simpler matter that you're dealing with.
09-11-2007, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Accord_V6_400m
Your car more then likely would go into limp mode if the timing was off like that, thata what happened to me when my belt jumped a tooth when I did my valve adjustment, wouldn't go past 2K when warmed up.
I doubt its timing, its probably a simpler matter that you're dealing with.
I doubt its timing, its probably a simpler matter that you're dealing with.
09-11-2007, 12:18 PM
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removing the blower is the pain in the ass, then i still have the damn timing belt covers, IM, and front and rear valve covers. then the wheel, crank cover, splash shields, aaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
09-11-2007, 12:39 PM
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Intake Manifold removal. NEED ASAP PLEASE
I got the blower off and wanna know what bolts need to be removed to remove the IM. is it all one piece removal, or does it need to be removed in seperate pieces? thanx in advance
09-11-2007, 01:16 PM
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Removing the blower is a piece of cake!
Here's why I still think it is the ESM. You weren't having massive power loss prior to adding the S/C. The only variable is the S/C'er kit. And the dyno graph and the problems you are experiencing seem like timing retard issues.
My money is still on the ESM.
Here's why I still think it is the ESM. You weren't having massive power loss prior to adding the S/C. The only variable is the S/C'er kit. And the dyno graph and the problems you are experiencing seem like timing retard issues.
My money is still on the ESM.
09-11-2007, 01:52 PM
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i have everything off. valve covers off. what can i check/do while i have this stuff off? the IM is hidiously dirty and filled with black oil/carbon deposits.
anything else i should check while i have everything ripped apart?
anything else i should check while i have everything ripped apart?
09-11-2007, 03:24 PM
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I Think I Found the Culprit behind my engine problems = PIX
Take a look at my front timing gear belt. does it look off centered to anyone? could this be a tell tale sign that my timing is off? i have yet to remove the other two timing belt covers:
09-11-2007, 03:33 PM
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seems a little suspect but the question is were is the marking on the belt in corolation to the marking on the cam gear. i beleive they sould be about 3 teeth off. if i am mistaken please correct me. that is what i was told when i put my timming belt on the integra due to initial belt slippage and the tensioner tensioning down.
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09-11-2007, 03:46 PM
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09-11-2007, 04:52 PM
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yes, prior to installing the s/c i had random misfire codes. it continued after the s/c install. power would surge between rpms, and it was driving me crazy.
i am stuck on one valve cover bolt for the past hour and its freaken annoying. my arm is all cut up. ugh, its ok. still love to get down to the bottom of this.
i am stuck on one valve cover bolt for the past hour and its freaken annoying. my arm is all cut up. ugh, its ok. still love to get down to the bottom of this.
09-11-2007, 06:02 PM
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I think they look like this:
l ll lll llll
on the top of the belt i think the color of the lines is gold or green i think.
also when i put a timing belt on my girls accord i was off a quarter of degree and it ran like shit. when i changed it back the car ran fine. also on my uncles 1991 nissan hardbody se V6 the belt slipped two to three teeth and the car ran like it was missfiring. the truck still ran but again it ran like shit.
l ll lll llll
on the top of the belt i think the color of the lines is gold or green i think.
also when i put a timing belt on my girls accord i was off a quarter of degree and it ran like shit. when i changed it back the car ran fine. also on my uncles 1991 nissan hardbody se V6 the belt slipped two to three teeth and the car ran like it was missfiring. the truck still ran but again it ran like shit.
09-11-2007, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
I'm 99% sure it is timing because the ECU is backing off timing because the voltage clamp is either not connected properly or the setting is incorrect.
What you need to do is take you car to a place that can read ignition advance/retardation and see if timing is being pulled, because that will cause major power loss.
There also this thing called the missing link, its a spacer for your MAP sensor I believe and it pretty much allows you not use the ESM.
Either way since you don't have any vacuum leaks and your stock headers will not restrict power that much, its probably a timing thing and now you need to find out why, most like a MAP voltage reading issue.
So once again do you have any CEL's?
09-11-2007, 06:52 PM
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the only cels i get are misfires on every cylinder
i just finished adjusting all the valves. most if not all the exhaust were too tight, and all intake were loose
i just finished adjusting all the valves. most if not all the exhaust were too tight, and all intake were loose
09-11-2007, 07:14 PM
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oh yea, one other issue i had was that the car would stall at low speeds, or revving high and then letting it drop back down to idle, the rpms would drop too low and stall the engine.
i pray this fixed it
i pray this fixed it
09-11-2007, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Removing the blower is a piece of cake!
Here's why I still think it is the ESM. You weren't having massive power loss prior to adding the S/C. The only variable is the S/C'er kit. And the dyno graph and the problems you are experiencing seem like timing retard issues.
My money is still on the ESM.
Here's why I still think it is the ESM. You weren't having massive power loss prior to adding the S/C. The only variable is the S/C'er kit. And the dyno graph and the problems you are experiencing seem like timing retard issues.
My money is still on the ESM.
That's what I'm thinking too.
09-11-2007, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by New Image
oh yea, one other issue i had was that the car would stall at low speeds, or revving high and then letting it drop back down to idle, the rpms would drop too low and stall the engine.
i pray this fixed it
i pray this fixed it