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Old 11-30-2003, 10:04 AM
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Clutch Broken.... 4th and final time!

Well... the pressure-plate busted again this weekend. I am now resolved to putting the stock flywheel/clutch disk back on. This has cost me nearly $3K and I can't afford it any more.

It is very difficult for me to believe its install-related this time - it was done the correct way... all the way! I just don't think the self-adjust on the stock pressure-plate can withstand the forces passed-on by the Comptech flywheel - I can't find any other explanation! The stock unit has a lot of dampening built in.

I feel compelled to send the unit back to Comptech with my compliments! I understand nobody else's has broken this way... yet, but having been through this (FOUR TIMES NOW) it is only bound to happen. One strong disengagement/engagement and that's all it takes.

I have already ordered a new pressure-plate and CPS and will contact the dealer for the install (which I will have to pay entirely) - if they will even do it!
Old 11-30-2003, 10:11 AM
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That sucks man...I'd def. send it back to Comptech with a few comments of your own!
Old 11-30-2003, 10:14 AM
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I have been talking with Shad about this since the first time it popped. Each time there was a slight concern about install (never 100% confident). This time that is not the situation... it was installed correctly. I will send it back to them... not going to comment too much at all - just that I can't use this product any longer! I won't ask nor will expect any refund or anything like that.
Old 11-30-2003, 10:22 AM
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You don't want your money back?
Old 11-30-2003, 10:33 AM
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Damn dude, sorry to hear this.
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Damn, Ram. That's unreal. While I appluad you for just sucking it up and not going after a refund of your money, I really think you owe it to yourself to at least ask. Or some percentage of a refund... 4 times and with a 100% correct install the final time. Sounds like you're entitled to something???
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allmotor, is ther any other aftermrkt companies that make clutches for the cls? like centerforce, etc..
Old 11-30-2003, 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by Guf0923
You don't want your money back?
The only way to get ALL my money back is to sue Comptech... which I don't plan on doing. I'll see what Shad says. Either way... in order to get my car fixed ASAP... I need to pay Acura first!
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Wow that really sucks I was for sure going to get the comptech clutch kit, as a replacement (Remember I am the one with the stock clutch going out at 22K) but now after all your problems i might just go with a stock replacement

Has anyone else with the comptech kit had any problems????????/

Is this just an isolated issue?????????????
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As I mentioned in the other post, this pretty much put a big, fat, red X on my plans for the CT clutch/flywheel. I'm in the same boat as SLY1TYPES right now. I'd like to have the combo, but don't know if it's worth the risk...........might just put the money towards the blower instead.

Sorry you had to put up with the troubles.

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Old 11-30-2003, 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by SLY1TYPES
Has anyone else with the comptech kit had any problems????????/

Is this just an isolated issue?????????????
Four times isn't an isolated issue!
Old 11-30-2003, 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by quikcls
allmotor, is ther any other aftermrkt companies that make clutches for the cls? like centerforce, etc..
If someone made a pressure-plate without the self-adjust... there won't be anything to break... this damn pressure-plate is just a tad too complicated. However... Comptech must realize that they probably should include a different pressure-plate with their clutch package.
Old 11-30-2003, 12:27 PM
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Damn man that sux.
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that sux, but I wold try to do something about this to recoupe my own 3k I spent on the project.
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Sorry to hear that.

I hope Comptech reps read these forums. I'd have been interested in this clutch over time, but with all the problems that you've had, I'm now pretty weary.

How many other folks have installed the Comptech flywheel/clutch? I'm guessing, but I think maybe only 4 have posted that they've installed this. Even if the other folks have no problem, your problems still represent a 20% (1 in 5 ) product failure rate - too high for this expensive product.

It'd be nice if the Comptech folks could comment here on their opinion about this situation -- their forums have been down for some time now.
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Sorry to hear about your troubles allmotor.... but I still don't get how you guys are disengaging/DUMPING these clutches so hard and expecting them NOT to break.

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Originally posted by Smitty
Sorry to hear about your troubles allmotor.... but I still don't get how you guys are disengaging/DUMPING these clutches so hard and expecting them NOT to break.

Smitty
Here's the deal. I drove this car pretty darn hard with the stock system and it never broke (even with 400hp and clutch dumps). Now it has broken multiple times already with minimal abuse. Usually a 'clutch dump' either breaks the transmission or slips the disc or breaks the axles - that is definate abuse. The problem here is the 'self-adjust' clip which for some reason doesn't like to live in co-existence with the Comptech flywheel. If the Comptech unit is supposed to be a 'performance enhancing' clutch system... it falls way short! A redesigned pressure-plate would just eliminate that clip and all else will be fine.
Old 11-30-2003, 03:03 PM
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damn, sorry man what did u run at the track when it broke
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Originally posted by darrinb
damn, sorry man what did u run at the track when it broke
Semi mid-13 and mid-13...
Old 11-30-2003, 03:10 PM
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Hope you get your car fix asap
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Originally posted by Smitty
but I still don't get how you guys are disengaging/DUMPING these clutches so hard and expecting them NOT to break.

Smitty
I wouldn't say any clutch could withstand high rpm clutch dumps, but w/my car i can never dump the clutch higher than 2k rpms because i am on stock tires.

I would say these clutches should withandle high speed shifting and aggressive driving.

Hey smitty how do you drive you car?????
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sorry to hear allmotor about the clutch.i have 12,000 miles on the comptech clutch and it runs great.maybe something is wrong with the trans?well good luck.
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Originally posted by types1967
sorry to hear allmotor about the clutch.i have 12,000 miles on the comptech clutch and it runs great.maybe something is wrong with the trans?well good luck.
This last time I changed the throwout bearing, pressure-plate and CPS (CPS and pressure-plate are the third ones!). The tranny worked fine in stock form... no matter what I did! If I drove the Comptech unit very normally... no aggressive driving whatsoever... it won't break. Any type of hard launches or engagement/disengagement (not clutch dumping..) it breaks... it never did that with the stock unit.
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Originally posted by types1967
sorry to hear allmotor about the clutch.i have 12,000 miles on the comptech clutch and it runs great.maybe something is wrong with the trans?well good luck.
How much time should this mod knock off in the 1/4 on a H/I/UD pulleys car?..........assuming it works

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Old 11-30-2003, 05:17 PM
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Dunno... 1/10th maybe..?
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That's it !?!

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Hey did this break at the track with your big slicks on?
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What did you think... as much as a S/C?
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I figured it would at least give you .2, maybe .3

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Sorry to hear about this Allmotor. I think this mod is officially off of my wish list until they come up with another pressure plate. Since Comptech is making a flywheel I wouldn't think it would take much to adapt a pressure plate from another application to the flywheel since they could custom drill it. If the Accord is the same unit perhaps they will do some more development. Hope you can get something for your troubles.
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Allmotor,

Not trying to question your knowledge of cars, but it seems that you drove the car pretty damn hard right after the install?

When I had the Toda Flywheel and Spec PP installed, the mechanic told me to take it easy for the first 500 miles to break it in.
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Allmotor,

Not trying to question your knowledge of cars, but it seems that you drove the car pretty damn hard right after the install?

When I had the Toda Flywheel and Spec PP installed, the mechanic told me to take it easy for the first 500 miles to break it in.
I put a good 300 miles on it before I did anything. In any case... 'breaking the clutch in' refers to not getting 'hot spots' on the flywheel and getting an even wear on the clutch disk. This is an entirely different issue. The disk used in the car was the original disk with about 2K miles anyways.
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I see. Well, good luck with your car. I hope Comptech make things right for you.
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I don't expect anybody to do anything... so I am just going to get the car fixed - whatever happens, happens - I am fed up!
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i dont track my car. and i dont dump the clutch i just shift it fast . whats the point in dumping it i cant get any traction with the blower anyway just ask jens lol
Old 12-01-2003, 04:41 AM
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Damn Ramanan, I'm sorry to hear about this. Definitely suggest a possible return to Comptech and see what they come back with.

Let us know what transpires.
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Ahhhh what a bummer man Well I would ask CT what they can do for you at leat...see what they say...at worst they say nothing. I would also try to get them to fix this because there are a few of us now that my second guess this upgrade because of this.
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comptech might lose a few customers if they dont refund you
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I scheduled the install to be this Saturday... for the stock unit, that is - parts should be in by Thursday I believe. I will be chatting with Shad @ Comptech today about this today as well.


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