Some people say that the Comptech springs, like just about any other springs that'll fit the CL, will have the progressive coils already compressed when installed on the CL, especially in the rear, is this true? Wouldn't this defeat the purpose of getting progressive springs? If this is true, wouldn't adding the weight of two subs, a custom box, and an amp or two make things even worse? What about with the Eibach Pro-Kit? I prefer the Pro-Kit look, but if the progressive coils on the Comptechs are already compressed, I imagine that the Eibach's would be even worse in this case. Plus, I hear they give too much negative camber/tire wear.

And how exactly do camber kits work? I don't think messing with the suspension too much would be a good idea to keep the car under warranty so I was wondering if getting springs with a camber kit is recommended? How do the camber kits affect the car's suspension, do they make the suspension weaker/more suceptible to damage?

 

Do a search on camber kits and if that doesn't help, email info@acura-tl.com and Tim can probably answer all your comptech and other related questions.

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rod the cl is acctually 40lbs lighter in the rear than tl and probably the same as accord or close however the fronts do sit low prolly colapsing the softer travel progressive part of the spring as the were made for the accord so ...good luck is all i can say

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Well -- All I can say is when I asked the Comptech folks about the springs and why they didn't make ones *just* for the CL-S, they said they tried 3-4 others and they didn't work out.

I did say, "I'll bet those rear springs are compressed since they were designed for an Accord.." The reply I got said that I was right and the progressive top coils in the rear are compressed.

The springs are Accord springs NOT TL springs (at least, this is what I have been told). So, if the TL is lighter, it doesn't matter.

With that all said and done, the springs do seem to be the cheapest solution to get the car down an 1" -- 1.5" (depending on load, etc.)

I believe that it has been repeated here that no camber kit is required for the Comptech springs (AS Sold).

The camber already looks a bit negative in the rear (good for handling). And I remember Jens saying if the camber was only a tad over the -1.0 max, he still thought it was ok.

(Best that I remember *and* I did talk to the techs at Comptech [in addition to the initial sales].)

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• 6 coats of Zaino magic

 

Thabks for the all the info, I also did a search and it seems that even some people with the Pro-kit have been able to align the car within factory specs. I'm gonna try to go see the Comptech drop in person tomorrow and then I'll decide what I'm gonna use. The Comptech drop looks different from the different angles in the pics posted so I'm gonna have to see it for myself. I'd like to go with the Pro-kit for looks, but Comptechs seem to be the way to go for reliability in the long run.

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And the more I see Webtoker's pics the more I think that the drop isn't that bad, his car looks real nice and clean.

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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type S
Satin Silver Metallic/Ebony

Stock, for now at least.

 

FYI progressive springs like Comptechs Eibach etc. have a number of coils collapsed for a reason.This is done so that with the suspension fully extended these otherwise compressed coils extend and keep the spring in its upper and lower perches.The rear Comptech springs have the collapsed portion of the spring on the bottom not the top.And yes they are progressive meaning that as the suspension is compressed more coils come into contact with each other forming what is effectively a steel barrel,the remaining coils then have a higher spring rate which in turn requires more force or weight to compress them.Jens

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Jens, most of the "good" non-progressive springs I've used or seen are under compression even with the wheels fully dropped (at full spring extension). If your going to compress a few coils, that is fine if that is the intention. FYI -- I really believe that with enough ingenuity, a lowering spring replacement could be made with the 1-1.5" lowering that kept the full benefits of the stock ride. I did it on my Bimmer (a lot of tries) *and* I've talked to some people who have done it on other cars.

Upper coil/lower coil --> tomato tomaato. I think you would do a better job of selling Comptech parts then they do (meant as compliment)






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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI

• Mud guards
• Wheel locks
• Toyo T1S 235/45ZR17-97W* Proxies on 17x8" SSR Competition wheels (48lbs less than stock)
• Kevlar/SS Brake lines ordered
• Comptech headers & sways ready
• Silver AEM CAI ready
• 6 coats of Zaino magic

 

It probably could be done if the car were engineered from the get go to be at a low ride height however these springs are installed in cars that are not at the factory ride height so that probably throws things for a loop hence the progressive spring which gives you a nice smooth ride but firms up as soon as the suspension starts to compress and avoids bottoming out.Jens

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1992 mazda Miata lowered with Eibach springs KYB AGX adjustable struts Sparco racing buckets 4 point safety harnesses Momo steering wheel lo profile headlite system with PIAA superwhite bulbs Custom audio system Custom gauges Jackson racing supercharger with header and Greddy cat back exhaust and a ton of other stuff 2000 Honda Civic on APEX coilovers Full Alpine Audio system factory fogs with Piaa bulbs Catz ZETA high beam headlamp system H.I.D. Xenon low beam tinted, custom taillites and on and on

 

I believe that anything is possible. Including the possibility of non-linear rate change in the spring. Also, as I said, I managed to do it in a previous car by only changing springs and dampers (no spring mount or suspension geometry was altered). No perch change, no change in spring open and closed length.

So, if I can do it in an old Bimmer -- someone who doesn't want to recycle (for economy sake) a bunch of Accord springs could do it IF someone really wanted it.

That's the problem -- enough demand (yes/no)?




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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI

• Mud guards
• Wheel locks
• Toyo T1S 235/45ZR17-97W* Proxies on 17x8" SSR Competition wheels (48lbs less than stock)
• Kevlar/SS Brake lines ordered
• Comptech headers & sways ready
• Silver AEM CAI ready
• 6 coats of Zaino magic

 

Sure it can be done but for reasons I am not going to attempt to explain as I am not an engineer only a mechanic they do not go this route.Tell me how you accomplished a lower ride height in your bimmer?Jens

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1992 mazda Miata lowered with Eibach springs KYB AGX adjustable struts Sparco racing buckets 4 point safety harnesses Momo steering wheel lo profile headlite system with PIAA superwhite bulbs Custom audio system Custom gauges Jackson racing supercharger with header and Greddy cat back exhaust and a ton of other stuff 2000 Honda Civic on APEX coilovers Full Alpine Audio system factory fogs with Piaa bulbs Catz ZETA high beam headlamp system H.I.D. Xenon low beam tinted, custom taillites and on and on