buying out a leased car?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 08:33 AM
  #1  
NJTypeS's Avatar
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 447
Likes: 0
From: North Jersey
buying out a leased car?

I know its premature, but I was considering buying out my leased car. Lease is up next year. I have headers and CAI installed and will probably get the RES when it becomes available. I would even consider the supercharger but with all the transmission woes going around, I'm not so sure I still want it. My question is has anyone ever bought out a leased car? If you did, were you able to buy it for under the price in your lease contract. My buyout is $18,000 however I would like to try to buy the car for $15,000-$16,000. The lease is through American honda. Any advice would be appreciated.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 08:35 AM
  #2  
droideka's Avatar
hater
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 431
Likes: 0
From: frisco, tx
Re: buying out a leased car?

Originally posted by NJTypeS
Any advice would be appreciated.
Don't buy this car. You said any advice!
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 08:46 AM
  #3  
Paul's Avatar
...
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,318
Likes: 0
From: NJ
If I were u, I would take the headers and cai and res(when u get it) out. Buy or lease a 6MT CLS, and put it in Then you can drive over here and take me for a ride.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 08:52 AM
  #4  
tankmonkey's Avatar
6 speed...
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,386
Likes: 0
From: houston
Re: buying out a leased car?

Originally posted by NJTypeS
My buyout is $18,000 however I would like to try to buy the car for $15,000-$16,000. The lease is through American honda. Any advice would be appreciated.
the buyout is as negotiable as the original sticker price on the car. bear in mind that the last thing american honda finance wants is another car coming off lease that they'll have to get rid of, especially with the current used car market conditions.

my boss' lease came up back in october/november and the lease company offered him a deal on the car (and it was significantly less than the residual/buyout amount in the contract).
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 08:54 AM
  #5  
IntegraVT's Avatar
Stealthy A-CL Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 1,346
Likes: 24
From: WNY, NJ
If you're serious about this, read this article from Edmunds -

http://www.edmunds.com/advice/leasin...0/article.html

The buyback figure is not written in stone.

IMHO, the best part of leasing is a new car every 2~3 years...
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 09:01 AM
  #6  
NJTypeS's Avatar
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 447
Likes: 0
From: North Jersey
Thanks for the info guys
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 09:40 AM
  #7  
Scrib's Avatar
Administrator Alumnus
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 26,326
Likes: 131
From: Northwest IN
Hmmm... I thought the residual payment on a lease was non-negotiable? That is what I was told by several different dealers.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 10:39 AM
  #8  
SLAMCLTYPES's Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
From: MIAMI FL
i would not keep the car go and bye a new one
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 10:53 AM
  #9  
BarryH's Avatar
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 780
Likes: 0
From: Hoboken, NJ
You can definately negotiate the buy out. AHFC will start calling about five months before the end of your lease to discuss the disposition of the car. I'd wait until until about a month before the lease expires to start negotiating - you'll do better that way.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 10:53 AM
  #10  
Infamuz's Avatar
Retired Post Whore
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 4,901
Likes: 0
From: Matawan NJ
Re: buying out a leased car?

Originally posted by NJTypeS
I know its premature, but I was considering buying out my leased car. Lease is up next year. I have headers and CAI installed and will probably get the RES when it becomes available. I would even consider the supercharger but with all the transmission woes going around, I'm not so sure I still want it. My question is has anyone ever bought out a leased car? If you did, were you able to buy it for under the price in your lease contract. My buyout is $18,000 however I would like to try to buy the car for $15,000-$16,000. The lease is through American honda. Any advice would be appreciated.

Dude you should give back your car and get the 6 speed CL, which will be faster than your current CL.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 12:07 PM
  #11  
typeR's Avatar
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 7,588
Likes: 48
From: Port Richey, FL
if no one else will ask..i will....Are you "THE" njtypeS????i dont see how with as few posts as you have???
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 12:50 PM
  #12  
Beltfed's Avatar
Moderator Alumnus
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 9,574
Likes: 0
From: Communist, NY
The general rule is "never buy out a leased car"......there are very few cars that would pay for one to buy it out after the term is over, basically after adding up your monthly payments/buyout/out of pocket costs/etc it would not go much above or below a retail finance (total amount)- this sometimes works with cars that have an unusually high resale.

Unfortunately, this is not the case for the CL.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 01:02 PM
  #13  
BarryH's Avatar
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 780
Likes: 0
From: Hoboken, NJ
Beltfeld,

I don't understand the logic of your post. The lease was for a predetermined time at a predetermined cost. When it ends, the lessee is essentially without a car. Replacement options include buying a new car, leasing a new car, or buying a used car. If NJTypeS wants to buy a used car, what better car than one he's driven and knows the history of? Assuming AHFC gives him a good price, buying his off-lease car is no different than buying any other used car. Additionally, if he wants to finance the car AHFC offers favorable terms to off-lease purchasers.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 01:17 PM
  #14  
pcdoc1's Avatar
Cruisin'
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
From: NC
I must be the only one that feels like he did OK on a lease. I bought a '98 CL 3.0 on a 36-month Honda lease. At the end of the lease, the residual was $3800.00 cheaper than the dealers where selling the car for on the lot. Honda also refused to negotiate the buy-out. When it was all said and done, the down payment, total payments, plus the buy-out was only $1060.00 over the purchase price of the car, buy far the best interest rate I’ve ever received on a car.

I'd gladly do this deal again.................
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 02:35 PM
  #15  
Beltfed's Avatar
Moderator Alumnus
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 9,574
Likes: 0
From: Communist, NY
Originally posted by BarryH
Beltfeld,

I don't understand the logic of your post. The lease was for a predetermined time at a predetermined cost. When it ends, the lessee is essentially without a car. Replacement options include buying a new car, leasing a new car, or buying a used car. If NJTypeS wants to buy a used car, what better car than one he's driven and knows the history of? Assuming AHFC gives him a good price, buying his off-lease car is no different than buying any other used car. Additionally, if he wants to finance the car AHFC offers favorable terms to off-lease purchasers.

I don't know what his contract is, but generally after you lease a car and then decide to buy it out....if you do the math, financing from the start would generally have been a hell of a lot cheaper (sometimes $8-$10k cheaper), depending on interest rate/length of loan/money down.

Plenty of people do it, doesn't make you a glutton for punishment.....its just not the smartest thing to do most of the time, if $$ isn't an issue, then forget anything I said.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 03:29 PM
  #16  
pcdoc1's Avatar
Cruisin'
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 20
Likes: 0
From: NC
Not a flame, just don't understand your logic or numbers. I don't believe either can be substantiated!

Quite simply the difference between a purchase and a lease boils down to if you want to make the down payment in the beginning or the end of the deal.

If you negotiate the price and the rate prior to doing the deal as if you were buying the card, the numbers have to work out exactly the same unless you do something like get a lower payment by limiting you annual miles allotment.

One of the biggest advantages to the lease is at the end of the term you can evaluate the residual against current market value and have the choice to walk away if you like. I much prefer this situation rather than purchase up front and then get burned on a weak resale value.

To each his own…….. Regards-
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 03:49 PM
  #17  
Beltfed's Avatar
Moderator Alumnus
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 9,574
Likes: 0
From: Communist, NY
In theory it should work, but it doesn't usually.....especially with cars that are on subsidized programs.

Unless you really know your shit, the finance and lease will generally not work out the same.

Leasing costs more in the long run, most of the time.

I don't hate leasing my cars are always leased.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 05:43 PM
  #18  
NJTypeS's Avatar
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 447
Likes: 0
From: North Jersey
if no one else will ask..i will....Are you "THE" njtypeS????i dont see how with as few posts as you have
I do not know who THE njtype s is that you are referring to, I'm new to the forum.

Like Barry H said, the only reason I would consider buying out my leased car is that I am familiar with it since I had it from day 1. I have also slightly modified it. I'm also planning on buying a house in a few years and it would be nice to have no car payment for awhile. As far as the six speed being faster, I already have headers, and intake and am most likely getting the RES. So I'm not that concerned if the 6 speed is a little faster. Besides there is always the supercharger which I would get in a second if Acura fixed the transmission problems!!!!
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2002 | 06:41 PM
  #19  
typeR's Avatar
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 7,588
Likes: 48
From: Port Richey, FL
Originally posted by NJTypeS


I do not know who THE njtype s is that you are referring to, I'm new to the forum.

Like Barry H said, the only reason I would consider buying out my leased car is that I am familiar with it since I had it from day 1. I have also slightly modified it. I'm also planning on buying a house in a few years and it would be nice to have no car payment for awhile. As far as the six speed being faster, I already have headers, and intake and am most likely getting the RES. So I'm not that concerned if the 6 speed is a little faster. Besides there is always the supercharger which I would get in a second if Acura fixed the transmission problems!!!!
...lol i figured as much...one of njtypes' first posts was...so where should i take a hooker for holloween and most contained something to do with how much pot he smoked in his cl...lol... ahhh the good ole' days...anyway with that in mind...you may consider a name change...as far as leases go i sold my first lease to a dealer when i received a 5K$ reduced lease end residule and bought my second lease my wifes 98 accord 23K miles 17K with tax....less than dealers were selling this car for but maybe slightly more than available off the street...but we know her car and did i mention 23K miles... 98 accord v-6...so say what you will ...i like leasing and if you should buy at the end...you certainly know the car you're getting NJ welcome...now change that name LOL
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Zonian22
Member Cars for Sale
3
Nov 14, 2015 01:20 PM
gokhanturk
5G TLX (2015-2020)
39
Sep 27, 2015 12:54 PM
kuzdu
5G TLX (2015-2020)
3
Sep 10, 2015 08:42 PM
pizokk1
5G TLX (2015-2020)
2
Aug 31, 2015 09:20 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:41 PM.