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Old 09-30-2006, 11:34 PM
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Ok so as you know the place i brought the car to did nothing but screw me, so here's the deal when i picked up the car from them the other night it was running like shit all it would do is bog when i gave it gas. The place is in queens, so by the time i got back to brooklyn the car was running good again, so i just figured the ecu needed to relearn itself. Tonight i get in the car after work (three days later) and the car is bogging at idle a very little bit, so i just figured it was somthing stupid, i get home park the car for about an hour then leave to get gas and the bogging is a little worse after i put gas, then i went to checkers, leave the lot and the car can barely go anywhere. What the hell could be the problem? When i give it like 1/2 throttle the afr is reading ten, at idle my boost gauge is reading -20 when it is usually on -10, the exhaust smells like gas ( i think) and my fuel pressure gauge is acting wierd. Could it be the esm or maybe they played with my fpr? if so how can i tell? Please help i am supposed to get the car tuned monday so i have to fix this ASAP! If it weren't for bad luck i would have no luck at all!
Old 09-30-2006, 11:37 PM
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they probly adjusted the FPR, just let 1320 tune it. they can figure it out. i'm sure it's just a tuning error.
Old 09-30-2006, 11:40 PM
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That blows man but it does sound like fuel to me. I wish I could help you but the guy I know who could most likely mess with that doesn't work Sundays, but he does have a "shop" in Elizabeth by the police station
Old 09-30-2006, 11:41 PM
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i just want the car to be ok when i bring it there monday, But i do have to drive it to brooklyn monday morning before i get it tuned to do a couple minor things myelf, and the way it is right now it barly moves.
Old 09-30-2006, 11:48 PM
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I'll try and call him tomorrow, but this guy changes his number so much like he is hiding from feds. He does good work he has built a right hand drive RX-7 and his shop is full of boosted 240sx. I don't know if you go down to Elizabeth much down E. Grand Street you will see a bunch of red 240sx on the corner of E. Grand and Magnolia and his shop is right there. PM me your number and I'll let you know if I get in touch with him tomorrow.
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i cant believe they gave you the car back in that condition. they did an amazing job on my motor.
Old 10-01-2006, 03:07 AM
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sounds like it's running super rich...definitely get it re-tuned...they shouldn't charge for it...hopefully...
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or a bad CAT
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Originally Posted by CL Platano
I'll try and call him tomorrow, but this guy changes his number so much like he is hiding from feds. He does good work he has built a right hand drive RX-7 and his shop is full of boosted 240sx. I don't know if you go down to Elizabeth much down E. Grand Street you will see a bunch of red 240sx on the corner of E. Grand and Magnolia and his shop is right there. PM me your number and I'll let you know if I get in touch with him tomorrow.
Yeah, i think i know where your talking about, i worked in elizabeth for like 10 years. Do they have a dyno?
Old 10-01-2006, 09:19 AM
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or a bad CAT
No cat in the car just a straight pipe, and it can't be anything with tuning because the e-manage isn't in the car, it's just the stock computer and the esm.
Come on guys anyone have any ideas what i should check?
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Sounds like fuel issues or the car is running too rich. What your FP (fuel pressure) at idle when car warmed up? It should be not less than 36psi otherwise the car will gasp for fuel and boggs.
Also what is your AFR at idle and normal driving. If they (the visited shop) played with e-manage without adjusting it first as I stated in PM, yet kept ESM and tried tuning with it, then I'm not surprised the aftermath.

BTW, which plugs are you using and hope you fill up 93 octane. Could be you have a bad gas but doubt that's the issue and I always use BP Ultimate (93).
So, FP/FPR/ignition coils and injectors should be checked first.

And again, remember the following next time you attempt to hook up e-manage:
1. The main unit MUST be setup first with switches and jumpers to work correctly
2. ESM MUST be removed when start tuning e-manage.

Also, there is a mechanic in NJ who regularly work on members' 3rd gen. sc TL(s) and also owns one. I've read somewhere he's SAE with over 12 years of experience, so might be worth to try. He might help you out with your current issues on your 2nd gen and he goes by the name of RYAN97812. PM him - https://acurazine.com/forums/members/ryan97812-125735/
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Just the person i wanted to hear from! my fuel presure is at 30-32 at idle and my boost is reading 10 to 20, what should i look at? i have to bring the car tomorrow to finally ge tuned and now it barely runs. please help me Serge!
Old 10-01-2006, 01:14 PM
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They put denso's ik22 and yes i always fill up with 93, it happened when the car was low on gas possible i got some shit from the bottom of the tank? if so what can i use to clean it out?
Old 10-01-2006, 01:40 PM
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Increase your FP to 36psi at idle (when car warmed up) or it should read about 40 upon cold start up. Here is the how you can do it yourself:



If that is NOT resolved you might have issues with FPR and another might be needed. It's not uncommon for FPR to fail. BTW, any CEL?

Like I said FP/FPR/ignition coils/injectors had to be checked first. Let us know if FP increase will resolve it since 32 is too low.

Good luck and do not hook up e-manage until everything resolved and it setup correctly.
Old 10-01-2006, 01:41 PM
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My friend had a good idea, maybe the fuel filter i have no changed it and the car has 60,000 on it where is it located in our car?
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no cel
Old 10-01-2006, 02:07 PM
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do wat he said, change the fpr back to what its supposed to be, i bet they played with it when they were tuning and never turned it back.
Old 10-01-2006, 02:24 PM
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My friend had a good idea, maybe the fuel filter i have no changed it and the car has 60,000 on it where is it located in our car?
Fuel filter or maybe even the pump is acting up. It's located in the trunk (under the carpet between the rear speakers. Do not mess with fuel yourself. Just do the FPR first and go from there.
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Where's the fuel filter? i tried to get that and fpr from pepboys and the didn't have either
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Nevermind we don't have a serviceable fuel filter. my fp is 40 cold and 31 32 warm should i still turn it to 36?
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Yes, turn it up to 36 warm, he said it already that 32 is too low when car warmed up.
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Ok still same thing after i turned it up. I wanted to check the coils so i unpluged them one at a timewith the car running all but one of them had any affect on the running of the engine, so that tells me that either the coil or the plug is bad, is there a way of telling which one it is without taking the charger of the car? can i read it some how with a meter? If it is the plug can i get them from autozone or pepboys, would they stock them?
Old 10-01-2006, 09:15 PM
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Nevermind we don't have a serviceable fuel filter. my fp is 40 cold and 31 32 warm should i still turn it to 36?
we do have a fuel filter. technically there is 2.
Old 10-01-2006, 09:27 PM
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What plugs do you think i will be able to get from pep boys?
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Originally Posted by withoutcomp1
Ok still same thing after i turned it up. I wanted to check the coils so i unpluged them one at a timewith the car running all but one of them had any affect on the running of the engine, so that tells me that either the coil or the plug is bad, is there a way of telling which one it is without taking the charger of the car? can i read it some how with a meter? If it is the plug can i get them from autozone or pepboys, would they stock them?
if you unplug the coils, you should feel the car surge. if you pull one of them and the car didn't surge that's the bad one...

also, stay away from IK22 get NGK
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if you unplug the coils, you should feel the car surge. if you pull one of them and the car didn't surge that's the bad one...

also, stay away from IK22 get NGK


what's wrong with the ik22's? I know a few of us have used them on our setups. I didn't ahve any problems with them.
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Originally Posted by blk2001tlon19s
what's wrong with the ik22's? I know a few of us have used them on our setups. I didn't ahve any problems with them.
i had some issue with Denso IK22. all my plugs got burned out while on the dyno, this was on my J30A1 s/c engine though. no offence but that's just my experience.
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what number are the ngk's? i have to get whatever they have, hopefully the have one of the two
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http://www.ngk.com/results_app.asp?AAIA=1410297

call them i'm not sure which one. tell 'em it's for FI.
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i need ik22's or the same plug in ngk, but do you think pepboys will have them
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does anyone know the ngk part number?http://www.ngk.com/results_cross.asp...CrossWarning=1 i found this but i am not sure it is it. what would happen if i just go platinum plugs?
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Damn, sounds liek me wehn PA did my intake a while ago, I was running on 4 cylinders, a coil was disconnected for some odd reason, I was getting raped by old school cars left and right. I bet it's something simple. Leave the battery unplugged for 2 hours then try again. Worth a try. BTW, I'm talking to your guy about painting the car, gonna do it a nice non-metallic grey, kinda like the new Lambo GT (forgot the name) with the molded kit.
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Yeah he told me he spoke to you, you going to stop by the shop?
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BKR7EIX-11 is equivalent to IK-22
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Yeah, I broke my hand and had a cast on for about a week, so I was slightly handicap. Yesterday i couldn't take it anymore and cut that shit off, Hand still hurts, but at least I can make it down to him and see about a quote. I want a non-metallic color, so when the kit is molded, it will look real slick with clean flat surfaces. But i want to see some other options too. You gonna be there or in the area anytime this week?
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Originally Posted by chirik
BKR7EIX-11 is equivalent to IK-22
yup, those are the ngks i run n/a, and their great.
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so, have you tried pulling the coil plug one by one? what's the result? also, dumb question but did you check your IACV if it's connected?
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Ok i got it, it was a bad coil pack, what a mission i had this morning trying to find one, nobody had one. I finally got it from the napa warehouse in s. plainfield.
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damn man, i have 6 extra packs here. want one so you can return the napa one? im sure they charged you a grip.
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OK i got the car running rigt again, so i brought it to put the e-manage in and get tuned, but for some reason everytime i plug in the e-manage and turn on the ignition the ign. coil fuse pops. I called greddy and boomslang and they are both confused, anyone with any ideas? I couldn't resist to get the car dyned while i was there anyway, i will post the sheet when i get home.


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