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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bigman
Wrong, the first batch of comptechs came out with alignment issues, and also had problems with the exhaust coupling.
Where is the evidence to support that claim?
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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The first dyno was done by a member of the forum...he did it all the same day...all he did was dyno put in the new part and redyno...doesnt get more basic than that. The second dyno the same thing...all the dyno info was posted over a month ago if you do the search you will get all humidity, temp info...btw these are all SAE corrected.

Lastly, the reason our dynos are done in Florida is because of the following...and I have no idea why it is fishy? We dyno in Florida because it is the hottest and most humid environment to test our products. Our 350z dynos were so hot that the car would start to overheat. All these dynos were done at over 90 degrees temperature and in Florida with incredible humidity to purposefully rob the engine of power. Why would we do that, because that means that if the part made this power under such harsh power robbing conditions then the parts would be able to make that power anywhere in the country were it is more engine friendly conditions.

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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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what kind of dyno was used?
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Nexusindustry
The first dyno was done by a member of the forum...he did it all the same day...all he did was dyno put in the new part and redyno...doesnt get more basic than that. The second dyno the same thing...all the dyno info was posted over a month ago if you do the search you will get all humidity, temp info...btw these are all SAE corrected.
Jusy FYI as it may not b e something you are aware of, doing this could throw off the test. The car would have cooled down quite a bit during the install process. Even if the temp gauge looked like it was about the same there could be a 20 degree F ECT difference and would only be visible with a scan tool.

If there was a twenty degree ECT difference you would see about a 7 lb/ft and 7 HP gain from that alone. That is why I say the conditions need to be controlled, completely.

Regardless, there are still great gains and what we would expect from this design.
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 02:50 PM
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Dyno Jet dynos were used for the second dyno...the first dyno was done by a forum member and I also believe it was a Dyno Jet.

Scalbert...the car is run the first time cool...then it cools so you can actually remove the header that is hot and install the new one...then you run it again...this is all done within a 2 hour time period...same day...same place...same car...same temperature. I cannot dyno in a vacuum ...

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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by J.T.'s 3.2TL
So that dyno is with headers AND INTAKE. I am confident that Comptech gains that with only headers.
Call C/T, when I last this question they said their Dyno was with intake but...., you may want to check yourself. Check before you are Confiident.
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jgscott
Call C/T, when I last this question they said their Dyno was with intake but...., you may want to check yourself. Check before you are Confiident.
It is with exhaust which adds 2hp.... if it's the one I'm thinking of it's for a 99 TL......Now who needs to go check? Besides there are members on here that have similar gains with only CT headers and I AM confident of that.

http://www.comptechusa.com/images/dyno/1999TLplot.pdf
headers and mufflers 99 TL

http://www.comptechusa.com/images/dyno/2000CLSplot.pdf
2001 Cl ONLY headers
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by J.T.'s 3.2TL
Where is the evidence to support that claim?

Well here you go MR J.T

AcuraZine TL Community > ACURA TL DISCUSSION > Second Generation TL (1999-2003) > Comptech header

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I have recently installed comptech headers and now at idle the down pipe rubs against the bottom of the oil pan. It only happens at idle, particularily if I have the A/C on. Does anyone have any suggestions or has heard of this problem?? I thought the comptech would fit perfectly, but I guess not.
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do you have a tl-s? did you buy the headers brand new? i THINK there are some headers that are specifically designed for the auto and another one for the 6-speed. that could be the problem. anyways, definitely give comptech a call.

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PM me if you like, I currently have a similar problem on my 2000TL. Here is what happened to me. Had Mugen exhaust no rattles or weird noises. Got Comtech header put in at dealer. Same day I get a kind of dampened rattle from under center of car. Now I go back to the dealer 3 times in 6 months and explain to them that when I am in Neutral it doesn't sound and in reverse I dont hear it either. They say first time, Baffle is ruined on exhaust, I say then how come when I move the whole exhaust with just my finger, the noise stops. They say oh must be the center pipe. Then they dont change the center pipe and go back to saying it must be the exhaust. if it were the exhaust the noise wouldnt stop whne I accelerate. Ihave the same noise at idle but mostly in Drive rarely in neutral or reverse. now keep in mind the engine moves a little when you shift so I tend to think it is rubbing somwhere .

When I am in drive idling at a stop with foot on brake, its loud and then with AC compresser on, ITS REALLY LOUD. I spoke to Comptech and they are kind of skeptical the dealer diagnosed it properly.


DAMM COMPTECH NEVER HAD A PROBLEM HUMMMMMMMMMM
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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Sounds like an instalation issue. If not I'm sure a replacement was sent FREE of charge. Thats what happens when you deal with a reputable company. They were the Pioneers NOT the Pirates.
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by J.T.'s 3.2TL
Sounds like an instalation issue.

rubs against the bottom of the oil pan.
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by whitepearltsx
rubs against the bottom of the oil pan.

That would be hard to do...I could see it rubbing the back side if anything unless that car is different than mine.
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by J.T.'s 3.2TL
That would be hard to do...I could see it rubbing the back side if anything unless that car is different than mine.

Give it up dude.

Every company has problems.

Why are you riding Comptech so hard?
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Nexusindustry
Scalbert...the car is run the first time cool...then it cools so you can actually remove the header that is hot and install the new one...then you run it again...this is all done within a 2 hour time period...same day...same place...same car...same temperature. I cannot dyno in a vacuum ...
But how do you know the temperatures were the same?? Did you have a scan tool hooked up recording the temperatures??

Everytime I dyno'd I had my laptop hooked up to verify the temps were consistant. Even a 10 degree difference in EGT can make a measureable power change.
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Red-CL
Give it up dude.

Every company has problems.

Why are you riding Comptech so hard?

Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its true every one has problems at one point.

I would like to see the insides of comptech headers, and see the perfect welds.
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by whitepearltsx
Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its true every one has problems at one point.

I would like to see the insides of comptech headers, and see the perfect welds.
regardless, comptech fixed it. nexus is saying theres nothing to fix.
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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Proof has been given for the comptech fitment issues, what about the pirating by alphawerks? Really, how different could these things be? I don't know either way, but it's pretty slanderous to make those claims. I like my AW headers, but then I got intro pricing .
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by whitepearltsx
Thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its true every one has problems at one point.

I would like to see the insides of comptech headers, and see the perfect welds.
So why are you and Nexusindustry posting from the same PC or behind the same router?? You two work together??

Your logged IP Addresses are the same!!
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Red-CL
Why are you riding Comptech so hard?
if i had comptech headers, i'd ride them too then again if i had any headers (other than stock) i'd ride them as well
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by J.T.'s 3.2TL
It is with exhaust which adds 2hp.... if it's the one I'm thinking of it's for a 99 TL......Now who needs to go check? Besides there are members on here that have similar gains with only CT headers and I AM confident of that.

http://www.comptechusa.com/images/dyno/1999TLplot.pdf
headers and mufflers 99 TL

http://www.comptechusa.com/images/dyno/2000CLSplot.pdf
2001 Cl ONLY headers
1) Did you or did you not read " C/T was with "HEADERS ONLY" I think if you can read you are not getting the point or the fact. Great Comparison Compare one Header with Stock Exhaust and then Compare a different Header with Performance Exhaust. Ask any reputable engine Tuner/Builder what they think.

2) Did you check with C/T because you are still wrong. I did but I'll let you be the COMPTECH Spokesperson.

3) With all this comparison I am still waiting on the C/T Header internal pics. Anybody have a pic of the inside of a C/T Header. Please post it.
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by scalbert
So why are you and Nexusindustry posting from the same PC or behind the same router?? You two work together??

Your logged IP Addresses are the same!!

Not from the same PC from the same server.

I am one of the techs.


I know you didnt think there is only one p/c in this company.
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jgscott
1) Did you or did you not read " C/T was with "HEADERS ONLY" I think if you can read you are not getting the point or the fact. Great Comparison Compare one Header with Stock Exhaust and then Compare a different Header with Performance Exhaust. Ask any reputable engine Tuner/Builder what they think.

2) Did you check with C/T because you are still wrong. I did but I'll let you be the COMPTECH Spokesperson.

3) With all this comparison I am still waiting on the C/T Header internal pics. Anybody have a pic of the inside of a C/T Header. Please post it.

Hey thanks
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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To all acua-cl.com forum users...I give up...I am here to give all the info I can...I cannot win with you guys...I post the dynos and there is something wrong with them...I am only one person from the only company that cares enough to be here posting over and over again...if you want to make power and save $ buy the product...if you have any question please call us...call us if you have any tech questions...thank you all for your time and I hope that you enjoy your cars...If you have any questions on our product you have the numbers, you have the warranty, you have the t-304 stainless steel, you have no fitment issues, you are dyno'd...

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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jgscott
1) Did you or did you not read " C/T was with "HEADERS ONLY" I think if you can read you are not getting the point or the fact. Great Comparison Compare one Header with Stock Exhaust and then Compare a different Header with Performance Exhaust. Ask any reputable engine Tuner/Builder what they think.

2) Did you check with C/T because you are still wrong. I did but I'll let you be the COMPTECH Spokesperson.

3) With all this comparison I am still waiting on the C/T Header internal pics. Anybody have a pic of the inside of a C/T Header. Please post it.
Are you another hidden A.W. spokesman?

Originally Posted by car_lost
regardless, comptech fixed it. nexus is saying theres nothing to fix.
Thats why I'm riding them so hard. Comptech stand behind their products. They don't pretend that there is no problem (the horrible interior welds,etc).
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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Thats why I'm riding them so hard. Comptech stand behind their products. They don't pretend that there is no problem (the horrible interior welds,etc).

Give them a chance.
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by J.T.'s 3.2TL
So that dyno is with headers AND INTAKE. I am confident that Comptech gains that with only headers.
Are you another hidden A.W. spokesman? JT's Quote.


JT you are dead wrong but very confident HUH ? Care to respond or just lets divert from the now 2 wrong statements you made.
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by J.T.'s 3.2TL
Are you another hidden A.W. spokesman?



Thats why I'm riding them so hard. Comptech stand behind their products. They don't pretend that there is no problem (the horrible interior welds,etc).

Here you go comptech problem ANOTHER ONE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let me know if you want me to find some more problems with comptech? Let me not talk about there springs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its COMPTECH Having problems on there flex joint? HUM COMPTECH

From what Comptech tells me they have not made a new header for the TL.

Ballxnxparlay posted this from Comptech.

At first i thought they made a "new" flex joint. But i found out what Comptech just did.... heh.... here's the email that comptech wrote to me:
The problem is weave in the flex joint is to tight. You can stabilize one
end of your exhaust and stick something in the other end and work that joint
side to side and up and down a number of times to loosen it up. Pretty
technical huh! You can also send it back to us and we will do the same.
Jim Wendell
Comptech USA www.Comptechusa.com

The Header is on Ebay Item number is 455626533. If you type this number in the search field on the Ebay front page the header will come up.
I can't get the forum reply section to allow me to type the long URL.
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAP...&item=455626533
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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Where are the pictures of the welds of the COMPTECH HEADER if they are so great?
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jgscott
Are you another hidden A.W. spokesman? JT's Quote.


JT you are dead wrong but very confident HUH ? Care to respond or just lets divert from the now 2 wrong statements you made.
As far as I can tell the dyno from the 2001 CL-S compares STOCK to HEADER only. Yes it is dumb how they did the 99 TL STOCK vs. HEADER and EXHAUST....Similar to how A.W. did STOCK vs. HEADER and INTAKE. Am I missing something here? Personally I could give a shit about any of this because I know what I'd buy and what I'd never buy....Just looking out for other members.
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Originally Posted by J.T.'s 3.2TL
As far as I can tell the dyno from the 2001 CL-S compares STOCK to HEADER only. Yes it is dumb how they did the 99 TL STOCK vs. HEADER and EXHAUST....Similar to how A.W. did STOCK vs. HEADER and INTAKE. Am I missing something here? Personally I could give a shit about any of this because I know what I'd buy and what I'd never buy....Just looking out for other members.
Well if you know it all, What headers do you have on your car?
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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Well if you know it all, What headers do you have on your car?
Give it up dude. Your not helping the cause for your company. I could just see Comptech on here bashing other companies and harrasing members.
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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Hey I am in Atl Ga. Let's put an end to this AW vs C/T crap. Anybody with C/T Headers and Intake want to meet me somewhere ? We can Race and I will cook someone's "Expensive Headers " ass. Now what ! Just let me know. I have a good 1/4 street spot.
Bitching about noise and Cosmetics is crazy. If you want a ultra quite car " Don't Buy Headers, Intake or Exhaust " Period...............

Unbeleiveable 1 bad header and look at this Crap. There is no such thing as every part being " Perfect "
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Originally Posted by jgscott
Hey I am in Atl Ga. Let's put an end to this AW vs C/T crap. Anybody with C/T Headers and Intake want to meet me somewhere ? We can Race and I will cook someone's "Expensive Headers " ass. Now what ! Just let me know. I have a good 1/4 street spot.
Bitching about noise and Cosmetics is crazy. If you want a ultra quite car " Don't Buy Headers, Intake or Exhaust " Period...............

Unbeleiveable 1 bad header and look at this Crap. There is no such thing as every part being " Perfect "
What do you run in the 1/4? Post your slips.
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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Damn.... how can i get the "new" flex joint?? When i requested for it, they just told me to stick a stick down it and move it around.... (what the email said above) Comptech shiesting me!!!!
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by J.T.'s 3.2TL
As far as I can tell the dyno from the 2001 CL-S compares STOCK to HEADER only. Yes it is dumb how they did the 99 TL STOCK vs. HEADER and EXHAUST....Similar to how A.W. did STOCK vs. HEADER and INTAKE. Am I missing something here? Personally I could give a shit about any of this because I know what I'd buy and what I'd never buy....Just looking out for other members.
JT what the F _ _ K are you talking about now ? Go to the web C/T has the Dyno for 2003 and 2002 CLS's there with mods. Yeah you are Mising something alot. You keep making Dead wrong staements, not responding and then changing subjects.
Are you in ATL I'm looking for a Expensive Header loser ? Want to put up ???
Old Jan 7, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by J.T.'s 3.2TL
What do you run in the 1/4? Post your slips.
Slips you can't compare track times. Different tracks, conditions etc, OH give me a break. Boy would I love to run your mouth !
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is there a reason for this thread to be open any longer?
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is there a reason for this thread to be open any longer?

NO
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JT what the F _ _ K are you talking about now ? Go to the web C/T has the Dyno for 2003 and 2002 CLS's there with mods. Yeah you are Mising something alot. You keep making Dead wrong staements, not responding and then changing subjects.
Are you in ATL I'm looking for a Expensive Header loser ? Want to put up ???
I clicked from this page http://www.comptechusa.com/store/220042cl.html If you do the same you would see where it is misleading. I admit I am wrong on that. Let me know when you beat 14.007@101.11. and we can see what performs better! I have posted my videos on this site...Where are your videos or timeslips? This is not an argument I want to start.
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Originally Posted by jgscott
Slips you can't compare track times. Different tracks, conditions etc, OH give me a break. Boy would I love to run your mouth !
It's the only form of comparison we have you idiot! Drive down here if you cannot accept that alone.



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