those are some scary pictures of the interior welds...im gonna go check my headers now

 

well heres an update, i got to the store, and it was close . next time i learn to call first which is tommarow

 

I've made this comment on an earlier thread regarding "other header makes", and so have other people...

You get what you pay for. good luck anyways

 

Well I guess I'm going to stick w/ my headers and we are going to make them fit! I talked to my boys at the shop and they are willing to do it for the same price as my regular install...so we are going to do that...cant wait till i get them beasts onn woohoo

 

I am not trying to deny the fact that Bobbydoedoe may have had an issue (We are awaiting his pictures to verify everything), but many other headers have gone out and there has not been a problem yet. The only other issue noted was the fact that one guy with a TL had to drill out the holes on the exhaust manifold for where it was going to meet up with the block. I consider that to be a minor issue and I have already spoken to Alpha Werks about it. So, it seems that the headers, besides this isolated incident, do not have a problem in fitment. Keep in mind that these headers are welded by hand and not by machine; so it is possible that the welder accidentally welded the bung wrong on this individual header. Thus far the 02 sensor bung has not been an issue, so again I believe this is an isolated incident.

Josh
Excelerate LLC

 

Yeah, I think its isolated incident since all AV6 guys never had any issues with AW. And damn those gaps look like shit.

But, that dyno that was posted regarding an AV6 gain is absolute BS.
190whp with just headers on 6th gen. AV6 common now
I wish otherwise I would keep it .

 

Read post #23

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ght=alphawerks

Like I said before, I had a leak issue too, where the Acura mechanic also had problems with the O2 sensor touching the oil pan, but I bought mine before this group buy.

But, for the performance, these headers are worth every penny.

 

The first batch of CT headers waaaaaay back in 2000 had fitment issues...what did comptech do? They sent everyone who had the problem a new pipe to replace the one that didnt fit correctly.


Have they had an issue since? No. They did find out that the 6MT needed a new pipe to fit for the headers, hence they redesigned their headers to accomodate all CLs....


Comptech kicks everyone elses ass in quality and customer service. Now, new v. new....$1000 v. $400 (OBX)....that is a lot to pay...but a used set of CTs is probably better than a new set of anyone elses....(as long as they are scratched or bottomed out on...)

 

as we speak...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWA%3AIT

 

oops...it's over now.

 

somone just got a good ass deal

 

w00t, after 2 hours of waiting, my cl is exhuast leak free. Pics first:

well therse the picture of the o2 sensor, and how it is hitting something


so after an hour wait, the guy told me the gaskets that went on the headers (alphawreck stuff) are broken, so he went and ordered the stock ones


in this pic, u can see the relocation of the orginal o2 sensor spot and the new one.

 

so basically what he did was relocate the o2 sensor thing, and reuse stock gaskets(which i didn't have with me, so he went and order new ones)

 

So everthing is working correctly? For the record, are you the only one with install issues with regards to Alpha Werks????

 

yea as of now, everything is working correctly. And i think some ppl on this forum reported to have problems with fitment issues

 

Glad you got it resolved mang

 

Wait, the Alphawerks A-Pipe is multiple peices welded together to make the bend?

Theres a lot of welds there compared to the Comptechs.

 

They also have an additional flex-section near the front bend. Careful on the speed bumps. That'll rip open if you hit one too hard.

 

Hello all,

First I apologize for not replying in more of a prompt fashion. I am working on a car we sponsor in Jamaica on the Carribbean rally circuit. I would like to make things clear...

1. I am here to assist in any way possible with these fitment issues. This is the first time that we have ever had such a problem. It is the only time we have ever had this problem to my knowledge. These products have been tested for almost a year and a half before we released them to the general public. Many of you on this forum know this because you were able to take advantage of our introductory offerings.

2. I will respond to any and all "sophisticated" posts and comments. I will not respond to posts with comments such as "smoke up our ass" or "absolute bs" just to quote a few particularly crass posts. Especially to some of the younger members of this board, it is important to maintain a level of professionalism at all times to find a solution to any and every problem.

3. Our headers do what they claim: make power at a significant discount over the more expensive brand. Secondly, this more expensive brand also had some fitment issues. Lastly, this more expensive brand can rarely ever be bought used. This is one of the reasons we developed the project for the Honda/Acura V6 engine. We wanted to give tuners a product that made more power with a cost savings.

4. We have come through with this goal for everyone here except this 1 particular product. I will be in contact with our customer service department to correct this problem immediately.

5. Please PM me with any questions. Now that this issue has been brought to my attention I will be checking my messages more frequently.

I appreciate your time and wish you the best in the future of your tuning endevours and of course have a safe and happy new year.

Victor D.
Nexus Industry, Inc.

 

Please don't come to this site saying "the more expensive brand" had fitment issues. What fitment issues do you speak of with this brand? I can't think of one person that had to cut one to fit. The only issue I can think of was the resonance in the first batch or so. They are simply the most trusted. I can understand wanting to defend your product.....But no need to bash others with no base. Rarely found used? You can pick up a used set fairly often right here on this site for a great price with the original quality. Is Bobbydoedoe going to be compensated for having to hack into his brand new headers to get them to fit? It only seems fair.

 

There's a reason why the "expensive brand" is hard to come by used. Their original owners hold on to them for the life of their cars.

 

Well I called you guys yesterday and was told to call you back January 3 because oyu were doing inventory? Im not trying to put you on the spot, but why couldnt i discuss the issue with my headers with you?

Also the other problem that needs to be addressed, aside from the fitment issue, is the quality and/or lack thereof of the inside of wehre the three pipes connect. There are pictures in this thread somewhere, it is very rough on the inside, and one of the pieces isnt even lined up? What's the deal?

Hope you have a wonderful newyear. and hope to here from you soon

 

I suggest you expand upon this statement.

 

o yea btw the welding job was 50 bucks+60 for the labor which includes taking the downpipe down and puttin it back up. So if u do the math, CT=1000 while AW=600+110=710, so i guess it is cheaper, but long term wise reliabilty is uncertain

 

Wow this thread shocks me... Seeing the misplacement of the O2 sensor is rediculous. It should never be that far out of place. I got my AW from the very first batch put out and it was the first set I've ever installed and went as smooth as I could of imagined, the headers have had no problems since I installed them. So I myself am one satisfied customer and saved 900 bucks.
As for bobbydoedoe, my 2 cents is that the problem (now fixed) should be issued and made up by AW. Sorry to hear that you're having trouble with your headers, but I guess there's a bad egg in the batch every now and then, but the store should give you a new one.

 

im glad for 200 all i hadf to do was pry a little on my obx's with a pry bar to get it to fit right. glad i didnt spend the 1000 for comptech or the 600 for alpha works

 

It's not just the O2 placement. The welds inside of the headers look awful.

 

Exactly. Seriously, when looking at the internal welds, you are trying to tell me that you spent 1.5 years of R&D to get burrs and gaps? I really think that Nexus should be honest and say outright to their customers, these are half the price of Comptechs, therefore you are getting half the quality. I am apologetic about that satement however that is exactly how i feel. I now have to spend an extra $75 just to smooth out the burrs and gaps for the internals. This is rediculous! Do you really want me to repost the pictures?

 

And the whole excuse "well the expensive brand had their issues too" is a load of crap. Okay so allegedly another company had an issue so it is okay for the new AW headers to have flaws as well?

If they spend 1.5 years on R&D they wasted their time. When the AW's first came out I was all for them. They seemed to produce great gains, and they bolted up nicely. Now i've seen pictures from the internals of the headers and now the O2 sensor bung botched placement. R&D shouldn't cost more than $1100. Buy a set of Comptech's, copy the design, sell the headers at a lower price. End of story.

 

It makes him look like a tool coming on here bashing the superior brand while claiming 1.5 years R&D...........Give me a break!

P.S. The insides of my stock manifolds look better than that crap.

 

i had a nightmare with my A.W headers. . i just took the shit off and returned it. . i had headers and exhuast to do a nice alpha werks set up . . fuck that comptech headers here i come !!!

 

i had a nightmare with my A.W headers. . i just took the shit off and returned it. . i had headers and exhuast to do a nice alpha werks set up . . fuk that comptech headers here i come !!!

 

What problems did you experience?

 

Hello all...thanks to the 99% of our customers who are happy with our products...to our 1% that has any issue please read on and thank you for your time...

First, let me tell you that I am just stating facts...from time to time, every company, regardless of price has had fitment issues at least once. It has been documented on this forum and on this very thread. I do not mention names and do not fabricate incident but only highlight what has already been discussed on this forum.

Secondly, the Alphawerks products we distribute have always done what they have said: equal or better the best power gains on the market and give a warranty on the product that is 100% stainless-steel. If this were not true we never would have imported the product almost 2 years ago. No welds in mass production are perfect and they will not affect the power delivery. If they did lessen power then we would be worried. If there is some problem with the welds in the future, that is why we offer warranty because we are tuners too and want to make sure you have no problems down the road.

Let me further continue by saying that perfection in every part is the ideal and I am really surprised that one header that did not make that ideal made so many waves. If anyone has these problems we take back the header and send a new one because Alphawerks will compensate us for the problem. In fact I am working on this particular bung issue right now with Alphawerks. To date this is the only header that has this problem with the bung.

As for R&D and the 1.5 years on our products, people on this forum know that our products have been out for that long. We were testing before SEMA last year in OCT. 2003 and went to the show to present the products. We then continued to test fit the products until SEMA NOV 2004. We produce the most powerful headers on the market for the 350Z and we are also the only company to have a 4-into-1 header and turbo kit for the Scion tC. These feats are impossible without R+D. We cannot copy something that does not exist. We are extremely happy with the product as is everyone who has ever used it including when we were R+D'ing for the part numbers for fit and power delivery. If anyone is unhappy I please invite them to PM me on suggestions because all I really want to do is to make you as proud to use Alphawerks as I am personally proud to be involved with the project.

Lastly, everyone here at Nexus does performance because we are all tuners and we do it for you the tuners. If there is an issue we want to make you happy. We are not here to become millionares and never will. We sell at the price we do to give you the best power for about half the price. This takes into account dynos, shipping, production, test fits, sponsorships, full page spreads in Super Street and Modified Magazine, warehousing, and employee salary.

Again I am just a cog in the machinery but my main job at Nexus is to address your concerns on this forum and I am honestly humbled by the opportunity to present my product to you all to enjoy.

Thank you all for your time and enthusiasm for the Honda V6 engine project.

Victor D.
Nexus Industry

 

Again, where is this documentation of a problem with a Comptech header install? I don't see it in this thread, the problem that was mentioned was resonance in early headers which was corrected by Comptech and anyone who was affected was taken care of.

Thats well and good for other cars that have no aftermarket headers but the CL already had headers that had plenty of R&D in them, so I don't see why you had to reinvent the wheel, and I find it hard to believe you did.

I'm not trying to say your product is crap, nor am I trying to diminish what you are doing which is giving us more options and creating competition, in fact I'm all for it. But please don't come on our forums and spew this BS and expect us to buy it. And if your gonna say there has been documented cases of a problem with a product no one seems to have problems with, come up with some proof.

 

As I said earlier, we will take care of any reasonable problem. Thank you for your reply.

As for R+D again, we import the JDM Alphawerks applications, we make sure they equal or better the current products on the market in power and fitment, if there is an issue we jump on it immediately.

If anyone here has ever improved a product for power then they know why we do it, it is a matter of pride and being the best in power delivery and backing it up with a warranty. We do it because anyone can just send a header to China and get it copied. I would not work here if that is what is done and my job testing would be a waste of time. But I have worked on almost all of the project and I think that most people would agree on this forum that "actually have the products" that they are a great deal.

These are all topics we have all visited previously, but I again thank you for taking time to reply and hope that if you have any questions in the future to address them for you by this forum, phone, email or pm, and best of luck with your car.

My best,

Victor D.
Nexus Industry

 

so what d oyou plan on doing about the welds inside? I as well jumped on the band wagon then looked in side and I honestly dont think that over time they will fari up to well.

I was just shocked that headers of this price, and supposed quality would have a problem like this.

Bottom line, what, if anything, is being done to correct the shitty welds/allignment on the inside of the headers ?

 

After researching the issue on the inside of the headers, we have been able to reach only one conclusion: the issue is purely cosmetic on a part of the header that will never be seen and it will absolutely not affect power.

Warranty on the headers is one year...i.e. the headers on our own cars have been problem free and deliver 20+ horsepower on daily drivers for over 2 years now and have been driven hard, mile after mile.

If you have any more questions please PM.

Thank You,
Victor D.
nexus industry

 

so then why not make it a 2 year warranty or more?

 

1 Year warranty is pretty standard.