Here we go again, i know everybody talks shit about cl-s not being able to beat a GS 400. Well, if you read my first thread on my first kill i said i was gonna race a GS 400, see http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...threadid=81140


aight well i raced him at the same spot i raced the monte carlo ss,

my car: 2003 cl type s automatic w/1800 miles all stock

his car: 2000 GS 400 all stock, using e-shift

First run, the one passenger in his car says on your mark get set GO, and were off we both get wheelspin and and then i immediatley pull on him by 80 i had like 1 and half cars on him

second run, we both get better launches and the same thing happens i immediatley pull on him and put between 1.5-2 cars on him to 80

I raced him twice just to make sure this was no bullshit, i have three witnesses that were watching the race. I know most of you are gonna say this is bullshit, if you do just go fuckin read another thread, yall gotta gimmie my props on this one
the guy in the gs was expecting to blow me away, he told me after he couldnt believe how my car pulled on him from a start

now everybody should believe Thorodredcls on his kills vs the GS 4. When i get my digital cam, i'll have some one record the race then i'll post it

Peace out

 

WAIT--He had a passenger?
Did you have a passenger also?

I want you to win too--But if thats true--the results are semi-flawed!...Please let us know.

 

I weigh 130, the 2 people in the gs were probably combined weight of 260, the passenger was a lil kid. But i could see if we were neck and neck the whole way the passenger might of made a difference, but i owned this guy in from the start till 80. I'll race him again w/ no passengers i see him everyday in math class.

 

I believe you beat him! But a passenger makes a difference for sure! I raced this Guy in a Mustang GT (manuel) with a passenger and he would get me all the way to 90 or so, then the passenger switched and got into the GT and I was beating him worst then he beat me with the Passenger. Stock for Stock it will be a good race with a CL-S and a GS400 to 95mph after that the V8 torque will take over. With headers & Intake on your CL-S you should be able to beat a GS400 but if your friend just upgrades his TC & SRT Intake you can say bye bye. I would like you to Race him again and see what the out come is with no passenger.

 

sunday.......sunday.......sunday. lots of questions will be answered then......with footage to prove it. oh, and a turbo IS may enter the fray as well congrats on the kill though......


Doc

 

Hey Dr Rick and GS400_Pusher--You know you have to keep your IS300 children away--They are a real pest!

 

WHOA WHOA! Darrinb I just looked at the bottom of your post where it has your 1/4 time Now if thats what you do in the 1/4 then your boy with his GS400 can't drive his car ....Even Stock with 80,000 miles on my car I pulled a 14.4 in the 1/4 with wheel spin. Not saying you didn't beat him I'm just saying that he can't drive even with a passenger he should pull you in the 1/4 if you run slower than a 14.8 or 14.9. How long has he had his car?

 

Those GS V8s haul ass. Im wondering if the traction control was left on because there is no way a stock CL-S is going to take a GS400/430. The GS and 540i are about equal in performance terms and everyone knows what a 540i will do to a CL-S.

 

ahh thats messed up man. i had heard the same thing about the guys at .net. but the ones that i met are real cool. i guess the board pulls the worst out of them. oh and darrinb, if you ran a 15.2 at the track, you may not want to pick on too many GS4s. i would have to say that you got lucky. not discounting your story or anything......


Doc

 

Well I can't say much about those IS300 guyz nomore......Those guyz are bolting on turbos for around 3500.00 out the door. I rode in one and man those things haul A$$!!!

 

Yea it also says that i ran the 1/4 with 450 miles on the car, actualy probably near 400. My car was no where near broken in and it was ove 85 degrees outside. I'm positive i can pull off a 14.8 if i go back to the track. I can tell my car feels quicker since i took it to the track, so i wouldnt look at that 15.2 time.

And a qestion for the gs owners, whats the things you do for a race?? Do you gate shift or e shift, whats the difference?? I'm sure u turn the traction off and hit the power button. What other steps do you take before racing??


Today at school everyone wanted a piece of my car cause i beat nick in his gs 4. No one knew how fast my car was. As long as i race from 0-80 ish i'm petty sure no cars at school would kill me. I think my next race is gonna be vs a drop top automatic ws6, i hope i can atleast stay at his back bumper till 60.

 

Whats goin down on sunday??

 

Hopefully we don't get rained out though. But it looks like we might be clear for Sunday...

I just need to get my engine back together though and everything tested out!!!

 

What is even more impressive than beating a GS400 with an auto CLS? Being under 18 and driving an 2003 CLS. Way to go Darrin!

 

Great Kill darrinb!!! On the comment about beating a GS4 I told them to believe me. hehehe. Again this balls down to driver. I used to think auto vs auto you just mash the pedal to the floor but there is actually skills involved too. I know how to drive my car VERY WELL, not many owners of cars might not know how to drive their cars well. That's the chance you take when you race. If you can't drive your car and you pull beside me and your car is equally matched, you better go all out b/c I WILL.

The sad part is that darrinb doesn't have any mods and I did have mods when i raced those two gs. Again good kill! I guess you rule for right now at your school until someone challenges you in a Domestic

Maximized - Lay off the there is no way a stock CL-S is going to take a GS400/430. The GS and 540i are about equal in performance terms and everyone knows what a 540i will do to a CL-S.
Man I don't think you ever gave the cls props for winning a race. On paper the 540i and GS are faster than us but if you are not capable of driving those cars to full potential than yes you will lose to CLS. Furthermore a 540i MT will murder a gs, don't go there. AC has mods on his 540i, and thats why he murders CLs.

 

I will give the driver all the credit in the world. Does that mean that his car is faster, not really.

 

I agree you have to know how to drive a GS400 to get that 14.3 out of it! Still a GS400 with a ok driver will pull a 14.7 easy. Alot of things come into play when racing on the street . Like DrRick said you just got lucky, don't mean you will beat every GS400 out there that is STOCK. oh and yes it matters on how you shift too! I gate shifted and e-shifted, and I have to say gate shift was better for me!

 

hate to break it to you, kid, but whoever came up with the "cars get faster over time" theory is not very correct. pick up a MT or a C-n-D and look at a long term wrap-up. at the end they always show the time that they got when it was new vs. what it ran after the year. times are always very similar. very rarely do they get faster. the times dont really mean all that much, but the consistency is what matters. and also 85 degrees is not too far from ideal for track conditions. but congrats again on that kill........


Doc

 

Oh sh!t, is this a daily thing now. How come at ClubLex, there is no one posting a "I beat a M5 with 2 passengers, I swear I did"....

The more I read this, the more I could care less as the CL can't touch the GS on anything as it should being it costs 20k more.

So you can have your victory.

 

Lexus owner are less feisty? Or maybe because the CLS is much closer in performance to the GS400 than the GS400 is to the M5.

But in agree with you in principle. The GS400 is in another class (compared with the CLS) and for that class it offers outstanding value and performance.

The new Altima 3.5 SE can probably beat any CL and many auto CLS (all stock), yet I would not compare the Altima with the CLS when it comes to the complete package.

I love my CLS, but I would have just as much love for a GS400 (as long as it can be manual).

 

Well thank you Stickman!! You know what I would like to see is some of you CL-S guys beating up on some of those 3.5 Altys

 

no problem brotha! I was actually challenging a local 3.5 guy from altima.net but never got back w/ me.

 

Man, is anyone gonna race Nova or what?

 

I got that!!!!!!

 

Nice kill, holla

 

Yeah I challeng a guy the other day from that site but he never PM me back!

 

folks looks like it gonna happen tommrow!

 

Results results results...... post them post them post them PLEAAAAASSSSEEEEEEEEE!!!!

 

Am I the VICTIM.........

 

Its about that time!!!!

 

Gotta love Scalberts Vids in Car Talk!

 

I think i'm gonna go at the gs 400 again, this time with one passenger, his friend is gonna drive the gs who is a better racer and were gonna put some $$$ on it, i'll let yall know how it goes if it goes down.

 

Do that and let me know what happens, I'm curious

 

me and alex waited for GS400 pusher to show but never did.. may be next time.

but i DID do some runs on my own and got thtem on video but need a place to host it.

 

 

sucks dude...i guess after dr rick took one on the chin pusher didnt want the LEX guys to go 0 for 2

 

Not true buddy!!!! I didn't have his number with me thats why I didn't go down there! I wasn't even sure where we were meeting I actually thick I would give Scalbert a better ran but thats just me!

 

Regardless of giving a better run; this shows that the CLS6 can pull in the upper speeds. Which was my point all along based on the specifications of both cars.

But I would always be welcome to a friendly run...:P But unfortunately we are not conviently located.

 

Yes! But theres no doubt those Headers are helping you out on the topend side plus Port and Polish is also a big plus on the top end side....don't for get that I still think STOCK vs STOCK the GS400 is coming out on top! 6sp or not. I will email you my STOCK 1/4 time slip so you can compare to your runs you did this weekend.

 

Oh certainly, the mods have helped and show in the relative times. But comparing slips is irrelevant unless the runs were done at the same track on the same day.

Take for instance my old Typhoon. One day I ran a 13.24 and two weeks later couldn't get below a 13.7. One month later I was runing 13.3 - 13.4. Nobody was running well on Sunday; would you expect an SC430 to run in the low 15's?? I expected Rick in his GS4 with Intake and Exhaust to be in the low 14s.

But IMO, as I have tried to show in comparing specifications, the 6-Speed would be quite capable of running with a GS4 stock for stock. But the GS4 will out class the CLS all of the time!!