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Old May 6, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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Talking 6spd Transmission Swap!!!!!

I have an Auto 03' CL-S but my tranny is slipping and i know it is going to need replacing very soon. I want a 6spd CL-S very badly but dont want to buy another CL because i am VERY attached to my car and i doubt i will find another one exactly like mine in 6spd. SO my question is how hard would it be to do a 6spd tranny swap and would it be a direct bolt on to the engine or will i need to modify it and approximeatley how much money do you guys think it will cost to do something like this????

Has anyone else ever done this???
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Old May 6, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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I forgot to mention that i am financing my car through the bank and cant just sell my CL and buy an new one which is why i want to do a tranny swap. If i owned my car i would sell it and buy a new one
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Old May 6, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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Old May 6, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TCM 01 CL-S
WOW Thats a crap load of work. The thing is that I have an actual shop where i can work and i have a second car to drive in the meantime and i have the skills neccasary to do this sort of job but i dont know if i want to take the amount of time and work to do this swap. I am probably better off going to Acura and seeing if i can work something out to see if i can do an equal trade for my Cl for a 6spd.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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The cost of the swap will be more than what you should lose on a trade
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Old May 6, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mclarenf3387
The cost of the swap will be more than what you should lose on a trade
The cost isnt really the big issue its the fact that i dont own my car yet its still being financed which means for the next 4 years the bank owns my car so i cant just sell my car. So now I DONT KNOW WHAT DO!!! I know a salesman at Park Ave Acura very well so i am gonna go see if i can work out a deal and see what happens

Keep the post coming guys i need all the help i can get
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Old May 6, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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you can trade or sell a car that is financed. unless you have some really f'd up shady financing.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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Like Matt said... there's no reason you can't sell your car if it is financed. You just need to be sure what you sell it for is equal to or more than what you owe. Otherwise you need to cough up the extra cash to cover the negative equity.

If you already have a CL-S there is no reason to go through with the swap. Buy a CL-S6. There's PLENTY on the market to go around.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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I'm looking for a taffeta white 6spd with ebony interior with navigation and titanium and carbon fiber trim

Pretty much my current CL except in 6spd instead of auto
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Old May 6, 2007 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bigmark89
The cost isnt really the big issue its the fact that i dont own my car yet its still being financed which means for the next 4 years the bank owns my car so i cant just sell my car. So now I DONT KNOW WHAT DO!!! I know a salesman at Park Ave Acura very well so i am gonna go see if i can work out a deal and see what happens

Keep the post coming guys i need all the help i can get
If this is the case then you can not by law do it. You have to own the car. It's not like installing headers or a supercharger. You are making the car into a different car.

So trade it, sell it privately, take the hit(which will still cost less then a swap) drive your 2nd car around for 6 months, save, then by a used 6mt CLS.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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the swap will run you about 3G and since you already have another car why not just do a swap.
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Originally Posted by bigmark89
I'm looking for a taffeta white 6spd with ebony interior with navigation and titanium and carbon fiber trim

Pretty much my current CL except in 6spd instead of auto
Well I think they made about 20 in that combination. Maybe less. Good luck finding one.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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the swap will run you about 3G and since you already have another car why not just do a swap.

$3k or more for parts. Labor could easily exceed $6k
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Old May 6, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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Well I think they made about 20 in that combination. Maybe less. Good luck finding one.
I know thats why i wanted to keep mine and just do the swap but there is So much work involved and legally i cant do it unless i officially own the car and my car is still being financed so legelly the bank owns it
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Old May 6, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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Being a CL-S already the swap would be very easy. trans a few clutch parts and new ecu and wiring and and some misc parts and its done. 3k or less in parts easy.

You wouldnt have to remove the dash and redo all of that wiring like i did.
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I would just keep it as is.

You've got a great color combo already (rare) plus navi!

The automatic transmission isn't that bad.
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Originally Posted by bigmark89
I know thats why i wanted to keep mine and just do the swap but there is So much work involved and legally i cant do it unless i officially own the car and my car is still being financed so legelly the bank owns it
That doesnt mean you cant do any thing to the car.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Being a CL-S already the swap would be very easy. trans a few clutch parts and new ecu and wiring and and some misc parts and its done. 3k or less in parts easy.

Yes but do you think an 18 year old is gonna be able to complete the swap in his parent's garage?

No offense to the thread starter but I just don't foresee that happening.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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Yes but do you think an 18 year old is gonna be able to complete the swap in his parent's garage?

No offense to the thread starter but I just don't foresee that happening.
All depends on mechanical ability
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Old May 6, 2007 | 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Yes but do you think an 18 year old is gonna be able to complete the swap in his parent's garage?

No offense to the thread starter but I just don't foresee that happening.
No offense taken mrsteve

i have an autoshop in my highschool and its like an actual mechanic shop. i have all the equipment i would ever need and i do have the mechanical ability to do the swap. And if i didnt know what i was doing or for some reason needed any help my autoshop teacher has been a mechanic for 35 years so if anyone knew how to do a 6spd tranny swap he would
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Old May 6, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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Even if you're a little upside down in your loan, you can probably get the remaining balance added to your loan for the new car. It happens all the time! IMO, way less headache than doing the swap.
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Old May 6, 2007 | 10:47 PM
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Yeah just ignore my post about it not being legal to do on a car you don't own. God forbid it gets stolen, crashed, or repoed & they try to sell it. Good luck getting insurance on a car the vin says is an auto & it's a stick, or a title. A paid car doesn't need full coverage so insurance doesn't care much. But a financed car does & they WILL care.
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Good Point!
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Old May 7, 2007 | 12:54 AM
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You need to forget about this swap and just trade it in and buy a 6sp, maybe its not the same color combo but still, you will thank yourself later.
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
All depends on mechanical ability
And money?
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Old May 7, 2007 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Being a CL-S already the swap would be very easy. trans a few clutch parts and new ecu and wiring and and some misc parts and its done. 3k or less in parts easy.

You wouldnt have to remove the dash and redo all of that wiring like i did.
everytime i read your 6-spd TL swap, i just


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Old May 7, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Well I think they made about 20 in that combination. Maybe less. Good luck finding one.
It's something really crazy like 10, and I think 2 of them are on this board.
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Well I think they made about 20 in that combination. Maybe less. Good luck finding one.
15... (link in sig) and who knows how many of those are left...
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Old May 7, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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everytime i read your 6-spd TL swap, i just


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And money?
Yea that too
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Old May 7, 2007 | 01:18 PM
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I wouldnt do any sort of swap at my local highschool's garage. Kids will mess with that shit all day long.
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Originally Posted by SG81
everytime i read your 6-spd TL swap, i just


+1 to that
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
15... (link in sig) and who knows how many of those are left...
Yeah u are probably right i have the rarest CL out there and i dont think its worth it to lose my car just because i want a 6spd. I guess the only thing to do is wait until finiance is over (3 years ) and just get a the new TL-S in 6spd

Thanx alot for your help guys i am just so upset now that i'm gonna be stuck with an auto for the next 3 years. Oh well what can i do
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Old May 8, 2007 | 11:21 PM
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Yeah just ignore my post about it not being legal to do on a car you don't own. God forbid it gets stolen, crashed, or repoed & they try to sell it. Good luck getting insurance on a car the vin says is an auto & it's a stick, or a title. A paid car doesn't need full coverage so insurance doesn't care much. But a financed car does & they WILL care.
Except, he owns the car, not the bank. The bank simply has a lien on the title. This simply says that if you don't pay debt owed to them, they have a legal right to take possession of your property. You're confusing financing a car with leasing a car -- when you lease, the bank owns the vehicle and you rent it.

Also, insurance doesn't care whether it's stick, auto, stock 3.2, 3.5, etc. They care about the vin. And in the event of a collision or other loss, they will reimburse you the value of the vehicle belonging to the vin, unless you specifically purchase coverage for any post-production modifications.

There's 2 problems with the idea behind this. One is that the amount of time and effort involved in the swap. It's not something easy, and your car will be down for a good bit of time. Number two is the amount of money involved -- that's money that you won't recoup. When it comes time to sell the car, you're going to get exactly what you would have if you sold it stock -- probably less, actually.

That said, there are no legal ramifications to performing this, and if you really want to, have fun.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
15... (link in sig) and who knows how many of those are left...
I said 10, he said 20, we got it about right.

Oh and the graph in your 6spd thread is missing.
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Ive got a taffeta white with ebony interior and navi with auto box, and I love it. Id just go for another auto tranny for peace of mind and ease if youre not gonna trade it in for a 6 speed. The auto box is perfect for daily driving
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Except, he owns the car, not the bank. The bank simply has a lien on the title. This simply says that if you don't pay debt owed to them, they have a legal right to take possession of your property. You're confusing financing a car with leasing a car -- when you lease, the bank owns the vehicle and you rent it.

Also, insurance doesn't care whether it's stick, auto, stock 3.2, 3.5, etc. They care about the vin. And in the event of a collision or other loss, they will reimburse you the value of the vehicle belonging to the vin, unless you specifically purchase coverage for any post-production modifications.

There's 2 problems with the idea behind this. One is that the amount of time and effort involved in the swap. It's not something easy, and your car will be down for a good bit of time. Number two is the amount of money involved -- that's money that you won't recoup. When it comes time to sell the car, you're going to get exactly what you would have if you sold it stock -- probably less, actually.

That said, there are no legal ramifications to performing this, and if you really want to, have fun.

Agree.


And if i had to do it again, with all the parts ahead of time, i could do the swap in a weekend.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 11:22 AM
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Agree.


And if i had to do it again, with all the parts ahead of time, i could do the swap in a weekend.
That's how those things usually go.

However, for someone in school who is also probably working at least a part-time job, who has never dropped a transmission in his life, it would probably take a good bit of time.

First clutch job that I ever did took me about 14 hours. Last time I did one, it took me about 8 hours -- and 4 of those were sitting in the house with a tarp over the car while it rained.
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Yeah u are probably right i have the rarest CL out
Ah... no, if you bought a White/Ebony Navi 6spd (one of 15), THEN you would have the rarest one out there...

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I said 10, he said 20, we got it about right.

Oh and the graph in your 6spd thread is missing.
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Old May 9, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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Ah... no, if you bought a White/Ebony Navi 6spd (one of 15), THEN you would have the rarest one out there

you're just jealous because u dont have a rare Cl like me and that doesnt mean u have to rain on my parade mr. non-rare CL............ I'm just kidding GreenMonster just thought this thread could use some humor
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Oh and the graph in your 6spd thread is missing.
It's back...

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